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I'm not a big follower of cricket, never have, infact i would go as far to say as i know next to nothing about it.
Iv'e just always wondered why the bowler always gets all the credit when the fielder catches the ball?
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as it will say caught by x bowled by x
by the way aren't england doing well crushing the cheating pakistan team!!!!
pakistan are a shambles right now!!
and england are actually quite good at cricket again!!!!!!!
In football therefore, sometimes the assist is amazing and the goal merely a tap-in and sometimes the assist is simple and the goal strike/finish is superb - or both could be equally good.
Same in cricket - sometimes it's the bowler's skill giving the fielder an easy catch, sometimes it's an amazing catch from a poor/ordinary ball - and sometimes both are equally good.
However, as DonkeyPlop already said, at least in cricket they do put the fielder's name on the scoreboard so he does get some credit, while in football the assist gets no credit at all on the scoreboard.
My view from watching a lot of cricket over 20+ years is that usually senior bowlers in a team will be more tactically aware when they get wickets and will take a lot of credit for what fields they have asked their Captain to set. Usually the Captain will want to hog the limelight but i've found they are very few captains apart from the likes of Ricky Ponting,Andrew Strauss or even Mike Brearley in cricket both at county or international level nowadays that i would find as tactically awesome.
I have to go back 11 years since my beloved Lancashire won anything decent (Dont laugh JJ lol!) and when the legend that is Wasim Akram was Lancashire Captain. In his short tenure as Captain he was widely regarded as probably the best tactically aware Captain at the club since Jack Bond in the 1970's and talk about a guy who played to win every match!!.
It would certainly be interesting to hear Gidzo's opinions on this subject.
He's nothing as a captain without decent players. To be fair, Andrew Strauss is nothing special either (tactically). Michael Vaughan and Mike Brearley (from what I've heard) in a different class to them as natural thinkers of the game in play. Shane Warne the best Aussie captain of the last 20 years (but never given it due to his persona and lifestyle). Stephen Fleming, Imran Khan and Ranatunga all up there too.
I said at the start the season always be wary of Yorkshire because for me they have most consistent batting line up in the country and what a battle for the best spin twins in county cricket (Rashid and Rafiq for Yorks vs Keedy/Parry or Kerrigan for Lancs).
If Notts win at Trent Bridge against Yorkshire it will be without doubt the comeback of all comeback and a case of what could have been (If Notts set more than 270 for Yorks to chase it is gonna be a nail-biter!). Sadly yet again we have let another side of the hook where we could have had a vital 50 run lead but its going to be a superb finish to the county season rest assured.
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Craig
I suppose you have a point regarding Ponting as i was mainly highlighting that game i think 2 years ago vs India where the Aussies sort of luckboxed their way to victory by taking the extra 30 mins by getting the remaining wickets with an aggressive field.
Warney was a super captain for Hampshire and was the lynchpin for all the success the side have had in the last few years. Stephen Fleming is also another great captain but am i on my own by saying how dull i thought New Zealand were in Test Cricket during the 90's?.
Excuse me for interupting your little tat e ta, but this thread was about who gets the credit for the wickets, bowlers or fielders.
MR DAVIES FOR THE WIN.
Yorkshire vs Kent
Somerset vs whoever haha lol!!
That 2nd innnings display by Lancashire against Somerset just about sums how bad the season has been and our batting has to simply improve.
I am going to make a prediction for the 2011 season: on and off the field, one of the south coast counties will struggle big style if certain rumours i've heard come to fruition!!
Do not ask me to call who will win the championship because it needs one bad day from either of the top 3 to knock themselves completly out of the running. It's certainly Nottinghamshire's title to lose and Yorkshire's to win but Somerset could easily nick it and on a financial scale of things probably Yorkshire need to win it more in my opinion!.