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Is Sky Poker taking the Mickey out of most of its players???
Are there any players out there who make money on their other sites but find beat after beat on sky??? Are there players who keep flopping a set and getting done by an over set???? are there players who turn a full house and the other guy has 4 of a kind???
Maybe its just me but i dont think so, any site with a whole forum area for this sort of thing tells a story, just like some sites that have bad beat jackpots, if you get 4 of a kind 7's or better and get beat omg thats crazy, but a few sites have them, i would settle for the best hand holding up for a change, i stick up for sky poker most of the time but this run takes the p i s s, what i am winning on FT and PS i loose on here!
Maybe its just me but i dont think so, any site with a whole forum area for this sort of thing tells a story, just like some sites that have bad beat jackpots, if you get 4 of a kind 7's or better and get beat omg thats crazy, but a few sites have them, i would settle for the best hand holding up for a change, i stick up for sky poker most of the time but this run takes the p i s s, what i am winning on FT and PS i loose on here!
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At least there the bad beats seem to be somewhere around where you would expect them to be, percentage wise.
Here it is plain ridiculous how many times they occur.
Shame really cos I like the general atmosphere here.
AGREED with both of you, i played 26,000 hands on FT over the last 2 months both rush and full ring, and made a nice profit, but on sky it just keeps on going wrong, even though i know i am playing very well
I have had to delete a post as it breaks the house rules, you can find the Forum Rules here
Thank you for your understanding
Sky Mod
FTP RNG uses three separate sources which apply algorithms to generate
32-bit random numbers. The three random numbers are then XORed together to
generate a new random number. XORing a random number against any other
number produces a new number equally random to the preceding numbers. So
even if two out of the three sources failed to generate sufficiently
random numbers, the final XORed number will still be random provided at
least one of the three given numbers is random.
This holds true as long as the two numbers are uncorrelated, so it's
critical that all the different values come from independent sources. If
the numbers were correlated, the randomness could be canceled by the XOR
operation.
To ensure true randomness, FTP RNG uses several redundant and independent
sources including two different pseudo-RNGs and a physical source:
1) The ISAAC pseudo-RNG.
2) The OpenSSL pseudo-RNG.
3) A hardware RNG that has a physical source of entropy.
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I think sky mod may mean this one:• Include links/ URLs of other communities/ forums
• Include URLs of third party websites which may contain offensive or illegal material
I did not break this rule the web site i posted completely discredits sky's RNG
Is it possible for an RNG to deal hands to any number of players and then whoever decides to play their hand the RNG then deals the FLOP,TURN and RIVER accordingly.
I ask this as i cannot possibly see any other way that an RNG could manipulate cards.
If no RNG can do this then i cannot see how anything could be manipulated.
Thoughts/knowledge on this ANYONE?
Maybe more bad beats occur because there's more donk play? If you're always getting your money in good, you're gonna have outdraws. The main reason for all the bad beats is because of the amount of donk play. Simples.
If you don't have people always going in with rubbish hands, you're not going to get loads of outdraws. Other sites have a generally stronger standard of play, so people go in with better hands. Here, a lot of people are less than great, which means a lot of stupid hands where your kings get cracked by 7-3. Obviously unlikely to happen on FTP because people don't call off their stack with 7-3.
Now ask yourself- do you want to play against a guy willing to stack off with 7-3, or a guy who you'll have to work forever to bleed chips from? The outdraws hurt more in the former, but in the main you'll make a much bigger profit if you're patient.
Sky has a pretty small player pool compared to say FT, and I'd say there is more quality there as well. Sure, Sky does have some good players here, but personally I'd say the lower limits here are weaker here than on fulltilt. Not saying all the lower limit players here suck, just that think the overall tougher games on FT or PS mean less fishy calling down with bad hands, and so less badbeats.
That said you get them there as well, and FT has its own very long, and very boring "rigged" thread, where they claim the RNG is rigged or not random etc. Seriously every site has its players that complain its not fair, but I haven't yet seen one person prove it in any way what so ever, and all they provide is small samples of hands where they took a badbeat, while forgetting all the times their hands held up just fine.
As stated by Sky their rng (and pokerstars) works like a live deck except there are no burn cards,when the deal starts,the shuffling stops and the order of the 52 cards is set whatever action takes place.
Full Tilt's rng is a continuous shuffle,so no order is set and every card is completely random.
Some people prefer sky's method as it is more like live,others full tilt's for it's complete randomness,I don't care I always get outdrawn with either method.
Well I have to say that I totally agree that the RNG here is totally skewed. The ridiculous outdraws happen far too frequently to be statistically accurate. It gets to the point that when the money goes in on the flop and the cards are flipped, you know what's coming despite being often a massive favourite against 5 outs or less. Of course, you console yourself with the thought that you are 4 to 1 on or better and when it blows up that there will be a reciprocal number of times that you win in the same situation...except that you don't. You never see the same situation with your hand holding up as it never seems to occur. Cash is diabolical and tourneys are even worse. There the RNG deliberately eliminates players to shrink the field based on the time elapsed factor. Never noticed how all tourneys lose half of the field by the first break? Co-incidence?? I don't think so. I used to be a staunch supporter of internet poker but not anymore. The last 6 years have seen me totally rethink my standpoint. Oh sure, sites *claim* to be certified, but what actually has been checked? I'll tell you; the only thing that is checked is the number of times each card combination is dealt preflop. The things that should be checked are:
1) Hand distribution frequency ( AA vs KK etc)
2) When all-in, are the hands in front actually winning to their respective percentages over a significant sample? i.e. 54/46 over 100k hands should reveal a 54% win rate - or very very close.
There are others but, to be frank, it's pointless going on. Nothing will change while there are people still prepared to play. The RNG seems intent on keeping the money in even distribution as much as possible which means that with the same pool of cash going around continuously, then more rake will be taken from it over all.
Well played SKY - at least D*ck Turpin had the decency to wear a mask...
You may run better on other sites, any 2 cards can beat any other 2 cards whether it wins the correct % of the time is down to bit of luck really your not going to mirror or even with variance anything near the normal odds as your be playing different people and different ways each time. I have enough bad beats to know but never blame the software its just poker! random i have had it live home games on other sites aswell dont let it affect you, i find if you expect a bad beat they tend to happen more when you think they will
Debs your miss run good so probably due to lose every now and again ;o) X
If an RNG is random then why would they write algorithms that say a certain percentage of the time player A will hit a flush or set or nothing? The simple answer is that it can be manipulated to deal however they want them to, drop me a PM if anyone wants a link to a very good article i have read on this