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s just me that was fed up so can we have some new software that works fairley please .
EAGLE 10 ps i am 69 yrs old and this is my main entertainment and i only av limited money to spend im getting fed up with losing out all the time
but there is no way they are going to change the software .
i have put friend pending on your profile ,
click on that ,
send me a pm/email .
i have made over 8k profit on small stakes
games on here .
so i am willing to give you some poker advice
if you so wish .
denis
Can systems be manipulated...YES if proper security was not in place... Would anyone bother??????? NOOOOOO
Why would they? No one ever comes up with a reasonable answer as to why Sky (or any other of the hundreds of sites/ skins out there) would bother to care if you personally win or lose a hand, the rake is paid on the pot not the player, there is no value or profit in fixing the system to specifcally make YOU lose and me WIN so why would they do something that should it come out would end the site from being able to trade?????
Answers on a postcard to.....
Each of those RNG hardware packages comes with interfacing software which can inturn manipulate the hardware just like a software RNG. They also interact differently with each computer system. If not set up properly they can be extremely vulnerable to attacks. <--With no one regulating the online gaming industry this leaves a wide open invitation to/for hackers. <---Particularly those who work for the companies you mention.
Lastly - they wear out, perform poorly with age and are costly to replace.
Probably not.
also u mention the UB scandal, i think that was fa to do with rng it was just russ hamilton setting up a 'god' account that could see whole cards, then relaying the info to a seperate account that scooped all of prahlad and matusows dollarrrr$$$$
dealing with a bad run is just as important .
and lets face it,there are alot more bad players than good....:)
For example on FT my WSD is 21% and my WWSD is 85%, i can tell you for sure that on sky i win for less than 85% of showdowns, i guess more like 50% but i cannot quantify this as i cannot use my poker ware.
Another example they say if you go all in with AA you will win say 80% of the time against a random player can anyone prove how often their AA hold up on sky??? No because we cannot use poker ware i use poker trace for things like that
The UB scandel was an example of how someone working for a site can easilly manipulate the software to allow for things like that, it would be just as easy to make it deal a certain pattern of hands on a given table.
There are too many players who feel they are not getting a fair game on sky if you asked every player that ever opened an account with sky if they thought it was fair or not a high % would say it wasnt fair
Also the post about the RNG being able to be hacked just backs up my statment that it could only be hacked if the right security is not in place. This is not a back alley operation... This is SKY !!!. any hint of cheating or hacking and it would be world wide reported with site closing affect. SKY really don't earn any high % of their revenue from poker they are a multi billion pound organisation and this is just a tiny tiny piece of it. Would you risk your Multi billion pound corporations reputation on the line to earn less money than probably spend on the staff chrimbo paty across the organisation??? I wouldn't
You use poker ware on other sites dont you, well i am not playing on sky untill i can use poker ware to track what is going on, over the last 30,000 hands on full tilt for example my aces have held 72% of the time which isnt bad considering some pots will be multi-way, by the looks of the poll in the general chat section that could be never.
Those master cash tables at the end of the day the best hand (AA) won didnt it so i have no issue with that, i have been playing online for around 3 years making a return so i do have a general feel for the game by now and sky isnt feeling right so i am not playing, as for comments in this forum even though i am not playing here, well i made some posts while i was unsure if to leave or not and since then i have been defending my posts right now i am playing 2 sit n go's on FT while typeing lol
How would we know if sky was cheeting us??? can we use poker ware to track this??? No Has anyone done an analysis of 98 million hands like they did on full tilt??? No Sky poker is making enough of a return to have its own TV channel and several presenters on its pay roll so it has to be profitable otherwise Mr Murdoch would pull the plug, and i think that if they could enhance any return from the rake they would do
I PERSONALLY THINK ANY PROFIT THEY ARE MAKING
( WHICH IS IN THOUSANDS NOT MILLIONS )
WOULD BE WISELY REINVESTED BACK IN TOO THE POKER SITE & SKY T.V CHANNEL &
MAYBE A LITTLE GETS SKIMPED OFF,
JUST LIKE IN ALL GOOD BUSINESS MODELS .
HERE IS A TRIPLE BARREL QUESTION FOR YOU ,
AT A GUESS HOW MUCH PROFIT DO YOU THINK THIS SITE MAKES &
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE SKY BRAND PROFITS IS THAT &
IF YOUR NAME WAS RUPERT MURDOCH WOULD YOU ALLOW THIS ?
KEY FIGURES HIGHLIGHTED BELOW .........
British Satellite Broadcasting
Jeremy Darroch (CEO)
Andrew Griffith (CFO)
P.S I DONT THINK EVEN RUPERT BEAR WOULD !
NO PROBS M8Y BUT ITS A PITY REALLY
BECAUSE YOU SEEM LIKE A NICE GUY ,
BUT TC IF YOU DO LEAVE .
NICE TO HAVE HAD A CIVIL DISCUSSION WITH YOU .
DENIS
Not going to happen in the near future so tc, dont see how you need pokerware or what not to prove they arent cheating? means nothing anyways best of luck
A winner on ft and a loser on sky?????????? wow???
This is getting better than the hove park scandal, who quit coz he was making £3.8k per month coz he thought sky was rigged lol
on another note the law says at any one point in time a gambling organisation has to be able to cash out every player in full, how would sky be able to do that tonight??? Breach of gambling licence???
It's across the platfrom including SKy Bet etc so not RNG based which is what this thread was focused on. Is it a breach? no because they only have to have the funds to cash out every player, they don't actually have to do that at any given moment, Trust me sky have the funds to cash out every player and not even notice
If you can't understand variance and the fact that you need a large sample size to run anywhere near like you should do, then you are NOT a 'bloody good player'. That is a fact.
As said its always the losers who moan about the site being fixed, because they want to delude themselves into thinking its someone else's fault they're losing money. When you start to lose any decent player will critically analyse their own game looking for leaks, not thinking up ridiculous excuses.
As for having no tracking software, again the vast majority of the better players on here are happy with this, for two main reasons. First is that the fish don't really understand what it is and therefore dislike it, meaning they would be less likely to play on here if it was implemented. Second is that if you feel you have an edge on a lot of the weaker regs, why would you want them to be able to use software that is going to help them minimise their leaks? Obviously if you have a different view that's fine, but there are plenty of other sites out there that do allow you to use tracking software so I'm not sure why you're hanging around here.
Its nice that you found other people's distress amusing. All sites have technical issues from time to time. But we're lucky that skypoker is part of a multi-billion multi-national co-operation, so our money couldn't be safer really.
EDIT: As an example, I'm up a good amount of money on Sky, but there are other sites that I haven't played on as much where I'm down a bit. Obviously I know these sites aren't fixed against me. Whats happened is that I haven't played a big enough sample size of hands on them and/or I've been running +EV on Sky for a long period of time and/or I didn't adjust to the different style of opponents correctly.
Like I have said before it’s my opinion and I can post that if I like cant I, just glad I emptied my account on here last week, I do like a good conspiracy and no doubt sky is good at providing them for me, this would not be tolerated on the bigger sites, but then again this sort of thing doesn’t happen on the bigger sites, and I keep seeing the point about it being a multi billion pound company but sky bet is a subsidiary of bskyb not the same company, just like sky sports isn’t the same as bskyb.Yb if my posts are pathetic why bother justifying them with a response? I do understand variance like I have said before, I have played around 5,000 hands on sky and to be honest I am only around £20 down but it’s my opinion that I should be around £1,000 up, I analyse the big hands won and lost after every session I play, not just on sky but every site I play on, I know where everyone is coming from when they talk about sample sizes but I am not playing another 5,000 or 10,000 or even 1 hand on sky unless I can accurately track my own play, maybe everyone is right and the reason I get bad things happen on sky is because there are so many bad players on sky, I do think I play better against good players.If anyone has more than a couple of examples or me playing badly on sky please post them, I am a good player I make money elsewhere online and I win local live tourneys.Like I said in post earlier I actually want sky to delete my account on here, my forum posts and everything, but I don’t see why I should have to phone customer support to do this, an email should be enough???
Excellent post yb.
Hopefully it will educate other people reading this thread because it's obviously been completely wasted on Karlos.
I have already made my mind up and no matter how many people dissagree they will not change my mind, you are correct it was wasted on me because i dissagree with it
Like i said no proof then i aint playing on here, i want stats that prove to me sky is running fair this cannot be done unless they allow software