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15 MINS......Past The Hour.!!

edited August 2009 in Poker Chat
      Satellite's into the '2k gtd' Deep-stack

The best value satellite's for Sundays event 
     every   15 min's past the hour !! 
 
           Be there  Tonight    7 00     '\o/'     
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  • edited August 2009

           Also ..  'Sit n Go'   6 and 10 seater's

             For the main event tonight at 7 00

  • edited August 2009
    Everyone who can afford the sat fees should give this a go.

    The format is the same as the deepies that have been running all week for the 'FlashFlush' league so for those of you who have been playing those tournies and gaining the experience, who haven't got the BR for a 100£ tournie, try and sat in to take down some big cash :)
  • edited August 2009

    Thanks benny.

    There is a 6 Seater SNG for tonight's Deepstack Showdown, & the SNG costs £22 to enter.

    There are 4 players Reg'd already, so hopefully this one will be up & running soon.

    Reg's thus far are.....

    bennydip2

    fitzer14

    mickjenn1

    tikay1

    Just 2 more needed, & we are off & running.
  • edited August 2009

    Make that FIVE! GREGHOGG has Reg'd now, so just one more needed.
  • edited August 2009
    LOL Phil12UK has been sitting in these all week, and hasn't had one run yet.

    Hope he makes it in time!
  • edited August 2009

    We are up & running, "bunnydas" has joined us. Happy Days.
  • edited August 2009
    Wow, what a great game and well done Benny who got the seat, and TK who got another go for free. I made a questionable call with KQ fourhanded, but with one seat up for grabs and blinds steep sometimes a gamble is necessary!
    Also very ul Mickjenn1 who took a couple of bad ones...

    Good luck later Benny!
  • edited August 2009
    well done Benny, i hope you are NOT seated at my table haha.
  • edited August 2009
     Thanks Gregg,   nah  you made the right call with the situation as it was with Blinds.
    You were unlucky to run into a duped Q as well .. 

    Was a great little game though respect to all who played good players and good banter !! 
    If Mickjenn could have chatted  when my Q2 took the pot from his AQ

    he would have said..  )^$%#(%*)*%^(  '''  micky  language  please   :))

      Thanks  scotty  greg  TK     and .. "lets get ready to rumble"


    These satellite's are the way to go...   " If your not in it , ya cant win it !!  glk all

     benny
  • edited August 2009
    In Response to Re: 15 MINS......Past The Hour.!!:
     Thanks Gregg,   nah  you made the right call with the situation as it was with Blinds.

    Thanks for that m8, ive been mulling it over because i usually wouldn't call! You know me, im a member of tikays get your money in first club:)
  • edited August 2009
    KQ 4 handed, you are only behind to AA/AK/AQ/KK/QQ.

    Depending on the chips int he pot already/how big stack benny was it makes his pushing range so wide that KQ is just too massive to fold when blinds are big.
  • edited August 2009
    In Response to Re: 15 MINS......Past The Hour.!!:
    KQ 4 handed, you are only behind to AA/AK/AQ/KK/QQ. Depending on the chips int he pot already/how big stack benny was it makes his pushing range so wide that KQ is just too massive to fold when blinds are big.
    Posted by scotty77
    Hi scotty here is the hand what do you reckon? all other comments welcome. 12000 chips in play, 4 left
    bennydip2 Small blind  150.00 150.00 4267.50
    tikay1 Big blind  300.00 450.00 1655.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • Q
         
    mickjenn1 Fold     
    GREGHOGG Raise  900.00 1350.00 2310.00
    bennydip2 All-in  4267.50 5617.50 0.00
    tikay1 Fold     
    GREGHOGG All-in  2310.00 7927.50 0.00
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • 9
    • 8
         
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    River
       
    • 3
         
    bennydip2 Show
    • Q
    • A
       
    GREGHOGG Muck
    • K
    • Q
       
    bennydip2 Win Ace high 7927.50  7927.50
  • edited August 2009
      Greg          West Ham 1 - 1 Spurs ... tense nervous headache !!
  • edited August 2009
    In Response to Re: 15 MINS......Past The Hour.!!:
    Wow, what a great game and well done Benny who got the seat, and TK who got another go for free. I made a questionable call with KQ fourhanded, but with one seat up for grabs and blinds steep sometimes a gamble is necessary! Also very ul Mickjenn1 who took a couple of bad ones... Good luck later Benny!
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    IYYA GREG...  It was  maby a bit strong to write  ..shokin call... in the box at the time  mate. so soz for  that. wat is was i think is i hate  q k  loli think its a dodgy hand to play..especialy wen sum 1 cumes over the top of you like that ..im  just anti q.k.  hate the hand.....  lolol ..   good luck in the future mate...
  • edited August 2009
    4 left - if you pass you have 1400 chips @ 150/300. 

    If you pass your stack is so small AND Benny is the table big stack plus he has position on you so can easily call you super wide so effectively your stack is gonna be flipping anyway (bar the odd monster hand which we all know is rare in NLHE).

    With the chips in the pot you are only behind to those 5 hands that I posted above, very very unlucky that you ran into them as tonnes of times you'll be up against Ax/underpairs/possibly even Kx/Qxsuited.

    Once you make the standard raise PF then you are commited to the hand.

    If I was you I would be pushing PF tbf, as once you raise you have to call even if you have 72.

  • edited August 2009
    In Response to Re: 15 MINS......Past The Hour.!!:
    In Response to Re: 15 MINS......Past The Hour.!! : IYYA GREG...  It was  maby a bit strong to write  ..shokin call... in the box at the time  mate. so soz for  that. wat is was i think is i hate  q k  loli think its a dodgy hand to play..especialy wen sum 1 cumes over the top of you like that ..im  just anti q.k.  hate the hand.....  lolol ..   good luck in the future mate...
    Posted by zxghostxz
    No problems M8, i hate KQ for the same reasons that you do! and i can assure you that it is a very rare event that i call my tournie with it, hence this discussion. I was thinking about the wider picture (i.e one seat up for grabs and benny's reshoving range) Thanks for posting, gl to you too. I can see you have done well in deepstaks and you are obviously a good player so hope to see you around.

    Greg
  • edited August 2009
    In Response to Re: 15 MINS......Past The Hour.!!:
    4 left - if you pass you have 1400 chips @ 150/300.  If you pass your stack is so small AND Benny is the table big stack plus he has position on you so can easily call you super wide so effectively your stack is gonna be flipping anyway (bar the odd monster hand which we all know is rare in NLHE). With the chips in the pot you are only behind to those 5 hands that I posted above, very very unlucky that you ran into them as tonnes of times you'll be up against Ax/underpairs/possibly even Kx/Qxsuited. Once you make the standard raise PF then you are commited to the hand. If I was you I would be pushing PF tbf, as once you raise you have to call even if you have 72.
    Posted by scotty77
    Good Point! i thought i had more chips than i had lol, actually it was tk's bb i was after because if he reshoved i had to call him because he was pot committed. Benny just happened to wake up with AQ in the SB, so your right i created my own problem by not shoving pre flop.
  • edited August 2009
    I dunno actually I can't read those HHs good I can't make out whether you had 2310 total including your PF raise or 2310 after your PF raise.

    That may change it slightly, but I think the most important thing here is that theres 1 seat up for grabs and 2nd gets the entry fee back....you entered the tournie to go for the seat, and you went in with that mentality....
  • edited August 2009
    All games  of poker  are  based on decisions and timing.

    with your hand , stack and position on the table (button)

    Don't forget we are now down to  4  players, so the hand range is bigger

     you treble the BB with KO.. (900) (right move)  ?  Of course,

    The only problem is when i re-raise to set you all in , your pot committed for the rest  !! (2310)

    Don't forget this was a Satellite not the main event,

    Sometimes, you have to go with your feelings and/or gamble.

    If you had won you that pot you would have probably won the Sit n go satellite..!!

    As  i said,, poker is all about Decisions and Timing.!!

    Don't spend to much time looking back  !!!  your a very good player, who just ran into a big hand !!

    glk mate .  benny
  • edited August 2009
    In Response to Re: 15 MINS......Past The Hour.!!:
    I dunno actually I can't read those HHs good I can't make out whether you had 2310 total including your PF raise or 2310 after your PF raise. That may change it slightly, but I think the most important thing here is that theres 1 seat up for grabs and 2nd gets the entry fee back....you entered the tournie to go for the seat, and you went in with that mentality....
    Posted by scotty77
    you statin to see wat i mean....2300 left if he folded   ... 300  150 blinds ..   i also see wat u mean wen u  pot commited... but given the fact the he raised 900  befor the flop  and then the player went all in . ..  ib be lookin at my stack and think iv still got enough. if i folded  ... id also be thinkin  the odds are es got  ak  qa  lol  at best  hes got a rag  or small pok pair.. and even then id be slight under dog  the bigger facter to me is theres a very big chance im a monster under dog..   got 2300  still in it  ..id have to fold.....possibly  id call if i ad less than  say 1600   1700..  left
  • edited August 2009
    In Response to Re: 15 MINS......Past The Hour.!!:
    In Response to Re: 15 MINS......Past The Hour.!! : you statin to see wat i mean....2300 left if he folded   ... 300  150 blinds ..   i also see wat u mean wen u  pot commited... but given the fact the he raised 900  befor the flop  and then the player went all in . ..  ib be lookin at my stack and think iv still got enough. if i folded  ... id also be thinkin  the odds are es got  ak  qa  lol  at best  hes got a rag  or small pok pair.. and even then id be slight under dog  the bigger facter to me is theres a very big chance im a monster under dog..   got 2300  still in it  ..id have to fold.....possibly  id call if i ad less than  say 1600   1700..  left
    Posted by zxghostxz
    i dont mean to sound like im critersizzin any1  coz im not .. its far easier after the event   iv called many a time in the same situation..  but wen ive looked i wish i ident   coz most of the time yor  dominated ....and lets be honest  wen u call its nice to see the rag  or  the  poket pair   lolol   
  • edited August 2009
    for what it's worth i agree with ghost, thought greg had raised that amt 2 play v tikay or take blinds but fold 2 a  benny re-raise.....otherwise y not go allin in 1st place?
  • edited August 2009
     you treble the BB with KO.. (900) (right move)  ?  Of course

    I think this is wrong given stack sizes. OFC raising with KQ is a no brainer but if he's gonna be calling a push here with KQ then he may as well make the whole process far easier for him and push....

    Say the stack sizes were:
    Greg 5k
    Benny 5k
    Tikay 2k

    Then I think that the raise is correct, as he doesn't want to get commited with another big stack who may wake up with a big hand in the BB.  But KQ is a premium hand 4 handed when the blinds are big so he is ofc raising for value and taking down the blinds a very decent proprotion of the time.

    ACTUALLY given it a 5th thought the 3xraise does show a lot of strength, even when Greg is quite shallow stacked, in that it says to Benny 'if you go AI then I have to call'.....in which case when Benny does push it polarises his range to a big hand and not one that he is ever ahead of or racing with....

    ARGHHHHHH i hate thinking about poker cos with this hand I've come up with like 15 different answers in my head lol.
  • edited August 2009
    great  comments ..    but as i have said, it was a satellite, not a main event final table !! 

    In Greg's position,(BB)  4 left .. it was time to put pressure for him.

    The   other option's he had were  'All-in'  or 'Flat Call'  ?   hmmmmm

    Nah ..  it was one of those hands, in that situation to go for the seat.

    If it was the WSOP ..well maybe you could think 'pass' but  this as i said, 'was a satellite' 

    glk benny
  • edited August 2009
    In Response to Re: 15 MINS......Past The Hour.!!:
      I've come up with like 15 different answers in my head lol.
    Posted by scotty77
    Me too lol, lets just agree it was marginal and move on, thanks for comments all.
  • edited August 2009

    That's what happens when you try & nick my Blinds. see? ;)
  • edited August 2009

    With 45 mins to go, we are up to 18. Good field, too.
    bennydip2   5000    
    BIGSHANN    5000    
    bitesaund    5000    
    BOSS          5000    
    dantb10      5000   
    dickylane  5000 
    HAYSIE  5000 
    JIMBOB70  5000 
    llew8181  5000 
    Nutter5932  5000 
    PaulCarre  5000 
    rvrhater  5000 
    scotty77  5000 
    spellbnd86  5000 
    stokefc  5000 
    TC_BTFC  5000 
    THETANK  5000 
    tikay1  5000




  • edited August 2009
    y did sats finish so early there could have bin more at 15 past the hour!
  • edited August 2009
    In Response to Re: 15 MINS......Past The Hour.!!:
    y did sats finish so early there could have bin more at 15 past the hour!
    Posted by DELTA
    I'm not party to that info DELTA, but if I had to guess, I'd say that I would not play an Online Sat that was due to finish within an hour of the actual Tourney - which will take about 5 or 6 hours - it's too much.

    There have been dozens & dozens of Satellites & SNG's to tonight's Deepstack Showdown, for almost a week now, so we cannot say that Sky Poker never gave us the Satellites we requested - they did. 
  • edited August 2009

    Hey Greg, I think Annie has got it spot on.

    You are only making the raise you did make to take down the blinds or fold to a re-raise.

    And the reason for that is, otherwise you would have gone all-in in the 1st place.

    By calling the re-raise all in, you are then most likely dominated or flipping a coin at best.

    Surely after the strength you have shown with your initial raise, the chance of someone then coming over the top with kj or qj is much less than 10%, especially against the quality of players you were playing.

    I think you knew this deep down, which is why you did not go all in first and left yourself back 2000+ chips which were plenty to find another better spot, but then when you were pushed back at, you just couldn't find the fold button.

    Of course, it is very easy to analyse this in the cold light of day and out of the heat of battle, but just giving my honest opinion, that's all.

    Best of luck in your future play and COME ON U SPURS!!!!!


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