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But I'd play them VERY strongly indeed, & not try to get cute.
The key thing is to adapt our strategy to suit what we are playing, & I adjust my game play in Rebuys considerably, compared to Freezeouts.
In Live Poker, I MUCH prefer Freezeouts, & in fact I refuse to play Live Freezeouts, because I'm not very good at them, in truth, & have not found the "key". So I don't play them.
It's just how I play, I prefer not to get involved early, as I find it incredibly difficult to play multi-way pots when everyone is calling.
I well recall the hand, in fact, & I mean't what I said. I raised huge Pre, & bet strongly the Flop & turn, but he would not go away, & he rivered his 4-outer. It's best not to lob insults at them when they do this, as over time, we want them to chase. And I really did blame myself for getting involved, as I had enough chips to go on & win the thing.
I'm swimming against the tide with this view, I well know that, but it works for me, & I'm too old to change my game now.
Such edge as I may (or may not....) have in Tourneys is in the later stages, as so many people play so badly at that stage, that I found loads of extremely exploitable spots, & in the early stages, I can't find these spots.
I get more chips from squeezing serial limpers in late stages of Tourneys than anything else, this is both Online, & Live. When the ave stack is, say, 20 x BB, & I find 4 limpers on my Button or BB, they had better know I'm squeezing, most every time, for sure. The ONLY player we need to worry about is the original Limper or min-raiser. A fourth of fifth smooth-caller cannot possibly have a monsta, unless he's seriously bad!
Each to their own, though.
I thought u've said any number of times on the telly how we all should keep learning?
Behave, Elliot! *
* Or is that "Eliott"?
PS - Should that question mark be inside, or outside, the quotation marks?
tikay is over 100 at last count Ploppy
You have my sypathies, as I know how u feel with a BIG birthday looming in a couple of weeks :-(
Rule of thumb on sky with rebuys is if there are 200 runners, there will be roughly 200 rebuys/addons combined, that figure is never far off, so you will effectivly be playing a £22 MTT for only £11 (If that makes sense). As the prizepool has doubled but the number of players is still the same.
Rebuys are great for collecting chips after the addon break from loose (and bad) players who have lucked their way to big stacks.
I have won a rebuy mtt and got deep in others not even rebuying once or adding on!
Patience in a rebuy will always be rewarded.
Rebuys are not everyone's cup of tea, but neither or deepstacks, or sngs, or omaha, or speed tournaments. We have variety and balance on Sky and that is a great thing...
Question for the anti-gang.
Your playing in a nice comfy freeze-out. Everything's going swimmingly and you've made some progress. You're 40 minutes into the tournament and you get KK. You end up in a showdown with Mr Loose and and he shows AA ......... and you're out, finished, kaput and deader than a really dead thing. What do you do now? It's only 8 o'clock so what are you going to do?
You can join another mtt, can't you? - Isn't that a bit like rebuying?
* This post is designed specifically to wind-up Max
ONLY REBUYS FOR ME NOW
MAX,LETS HAVE A LAST LONGER IN A REBUY XXXX
Freezeouts should (?) IMO promote a more cautious approach & hopefully stop the A2's from calling giving a game that more closely resembles Poker?
However, I defend the right of anyone to play anything if they so desire. Nobody is forced to play anything.
i don't understand the logic to this, you get more chances to get your chips in ahead, you should want this type of player to in the tourney as many times as possible.. i personally like the re buy option cos my a2 doesn't hit that often so i can play for longer btw...
Before I ever played a rebuy here, I thought it through carefully, & eventually justified it to myself this way.
If I play a £30 Freezeout, it costs me £33, which is fair enough.
If a play a tenner Freezeout, with my method of "auto 1 x rebuy & 1 x add-on", it costs me exactly the same - £33.
Once I'd devised a strategy (which I explained earlier), I decided to give them a whirl, & it's turned out to be a great decision for me, though I fully agree, they are not everyone's cup of tea.
Last Friday's ME £10 + £1 Rebuy paid just under £1,700 to the winner. Which is bad value for someone who had 10 Rebuys, great value for a non-rebuyer, & "normal" for someone like me, who had the 1+1.
I exited about 16th, I think, for £56, so it worked out OK, though it's a small sample size. But it was cracking fun, & that's my kick.
I also totally agree with Flashflush that the better players will want as big an edge as possible in any tournie, and a rebuy gives you that. One of my favourite tournies of the week is the TOTTY Friday rebuy, not just cos its a rebuy BTW but it has an excellent structure which puts most FO tournies on here to shame,which to add a brag I have won 3 times, came 2nd once and final tabled on various occasions. It's cos I have the skills yo.
If you are gonna be playing a rebuy then you need to factor in at least the addon into your BI, so if the tournie is £11 then actually its £22. I really never understand people who compain that 'utter maniac donks' who play ATC cracked my AA etc. Surely you want callers with AA etc....also the struture of rebuys mean that its sometimes +ev to play a lot more laggy than usual as you can create an image AND use it to your advantage after you stack off with a pair + gutshot that doesn't get there.
Sky offer a mix of games to suit everyone. Just take time to look at the schedule and pick the times/days of the ones that you wanna play.
I was on 3rebuys+addon the night...Flashy was on like 5/6 due to 'having the most ridic table ever and getting it in ahead but being rivered each time'.
He took it down for 1.7k.
Standard open he woulda been gone in level 1, but Flashy is a)rolled for it and b) confident in his ability that he can just keep rebuying as he knowns he is +ev in that field.