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edited November 2010 in Poker Chat
Why oh why will SkyPoker never make it as a proper site.

Here are my main reasons, despite liking the site, several key areas are to be blunt a farce;

1) "Holding" of funds. What a joke this is. Honestly, why? Yeah we all understand blah blah blah about collusion but when its the same 5 people playing agianst you day in day out I hardly think collusion is an issue.

I've held off depositing any decent cash on SkyPoke for this reason. So you win a few pots and want to invest some winnings on a horse dog or footy ect. But oh wait, sky doesnt allow you. You need to wait to be checked out.

Despite being checked dozens of times, funds are still held. For how long is anyones guess, 1 hour, 4 hours, 20 mins, nobody knows.

Yeah you might say keep more cash online or deposit but I prefer my money sitting in a bank earning modest interest plus we shouldnt have to put up with what is effectivily theft of our own money.

Does this happen on WH? Ladbrokes? Coral? Ehhh NO! And you wonder why these sites attract large numbers?

2) Get Sky onto ongame ir Ipoker, seriously, the tourneys here are stale and boring. There are no decent tourneys to suit the working man. 8pm start every night? P1   s s off. Any decent run and your into the next day, impossible if you've an early rise to work.

This admittedly isnt sky's fault, its the lack of numbers, move to another network and increase players and tourney quality.

3) If you stick with this software then at least make it decent, let me re size windows, come on how hard can this be? Change the decks, the ones in use are rotten and if you sit to far from the screen then the hearts and diamonds are difficult to determine.

All of the above may seem like a gripe, it is but I enjoy skypoker because I can place the odd bet and if they ever realise your cash, withdrawls are fairly swift unlike other sites.

Listen to the players sky, stop being so stubborn, Betfair tried this and finally gave in and you should do the same. Cancel the TV shows and other guff and invest the cash properly and watch revenue rocket!
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  • edited November 2010
    and breath.....
  • edited November 2010
    SkyPoker will never join a network
  • edited November 2010
    bye bye.  lol and saying that sky can learn from sites like Coral.  what a lololololol

  • edited November 2010

    great material to work with.

    but before all  the fun start i can let you know that you can change the card colours to help differentiate between suits... that is unless you are viewing on a black and white screen... otherwise the hearts are heart-shaped and the diamonds aren't.

    this could be a fun thread... thanks for the effort you've put in so far.

  • edited November 2010
    In Response to This Site....:
    Why oh why will SkyPoker never make it as a proper site. Here are my main reasons, despite liking the site, several key areas are to be blunt a farce; 1) "Holding" of funds. What a joke this is. Honestly, why? Yeah we all understand blah blah blah about collusion but when its the same 5 people playing agianst you day in day out I hardly think collusion is an issue. I've held off depositing any decent cash on SkyPoke for this reason. So you win a few pots and want to invest some winnings on a horse dog or footy ect. But oh wait, sky doesnt allow you. You need to wait to be checked out. Despite being checked dozens of times, funds are still held. For how long is anyones guess, 1 hour, 4 hours, 20 mins, nobody knows. Yeah you might say keep more cash online or deposit but I prefer my money sitting in a bank earning modest interest plus we shouldnt have to put up with what is effectivily theft of our own money. Does this happen on WH? Ladbrokes? Coral? Ehhh NO! And you wonder why these sites attract large numbers? 2) Get Sky onto ongame ir Ipoker, seriously, the tourneys here are stale and boring. There are no decent tourneys to suit the working man. 8pm start every night? P1   s s off. Any decent run and your into the next day, impossible if you've an early rise to work. This admittedly isnt sky's fault, its the lack of numbers, move to another network and increase players and tourney quality. 3) If you stick with this software then at least make it decent, let me re size windows, come on how hard can this be? Change the decks, the ones in use are rotten and if you sit to far from the screen then the hearts and diamonds are difficult to determine. All of the above may seem like a gripe, it is but I enjoy skypoker because I can place the odd bet and if they ever realise your cash, withdrawls are fairly swift unlike other sites. Listen to the players sky, stop being so stubborn, Betfair tried this and finally gave in and you should do the same. Cancel the TV shows and other guff and invest the cash properly and watch revenue rocket!
    Posted by guru87
    4 Colour deck FTW ;)
  • edited November 2010
    As always, the "regs" are out in force.

    Blinkered views of a certain few who refuse to hear a bad word said against the mighty sky that attracts 2,000 players at peak times.

    I wonder how many people are actually logged onto skybet & vegas during these times and are playing poker elsewhere? Quite a few I imagine.

    Fair enough you can change the colours but this isnt my cup of tea either, clearly defining the suits would be a decent place to start improving the site.

    You seem to suffer from some delusion that skypoker is great. Whilst it certainly isnt bad, its not a patch on ipoker or ongame. Why wouldnt you want to open up to more players? Sure you can still keep your exclusive sky tournements but it would give others who dont have the luxury of staying up until 3am the chance to play some decent tourenys once in awhile.

    Whilst you mock coral, why? Becasue they run massive tourneys that start at socialbe hours with huge prize funds? Oooh, that sounds bad....

    Hold on, we'll all wait until 8pm each night and grind it out with the same fags waiting on kings to clash with aces. ~Whilst I enjoy playing these tourneys at the weekends, during the weeks its simply not feesible for those with a life to wait until such stupid hours to start playing. Start your tourneys at 6.30, then maybe you'd get more people playing, until then your in the mire.

    But as always, the same clowns come on here, pick up on one point they see as daft and attempt to make a fool out of you. I see nothing has been mentioned relating to the other points, you are all bottle merchants too scared to raise the issue incase skypoker turn of the giant willy most of you seem to have wedged up your holes that were kindly donated by skypoker
  • edited November 2010
    I have never had trouble withdrawing my cash, so not sure why you are having problems there?

    To be fair the main event at 8pm is about right.

    It gives most people time to get home from work, have dinner etc then sit down and play.


  • edited November 2010
    lol

    Sky's USP is that it has its own network.  It can do what it wants.

    And if you actually knew anything about poker you would know that the networks are all in a period of consolidation because they are all spread so so thin.

    You don't like how Sky do things?  Fine...go to the other sites you mentioned and play there.  I love Sky but I also realise where it lacks and as such I do play significant amounts on other sites. 
  • edited November 2010

    "Listen to the players sky, stop being so stubborn, Betfair tried this and finally gave in and you should do the same. Cancel the TV shows and other guff and invest the cash properly and watch revenue rocket!"

    And sack Tikay? you must of been in the sun too long

  • edited November 2010
    I am not referring to the withdrawl of cash, I have already stated that this is swift.

    I am referrring to the "holding period" of your cash. Obviously nobody has mentioend this as it is clearly too sensible a point for most on here to debate but I will anyway!

    Sky's USP? Turn it up!!! Oooh, we have 400 players for you to play with and 399 of them are playing with each other! Yeah great seeling point.....

    Traffic is spread thin? What thinner than on here? Must be one of the lowest elvels of traffic on the web when you consider just how many customers skybet and vegas have. Why cant sky get them onto their poker? Becasue of the shortfalls! Just admit it and take the blinkers off!

    Have you not read anything I ahve said? Im having a pop at sky yes but I believe it has the foundations for a decent site yet the folk in charge are retards with some of the stuff that goes on.

    8pm would be fine if they brought in 6 minute levels, just now its far too long for those who need to re-surface the follwoing morning to work

    And yes, if sacking tikay and the other balloons on the box meant offering a better service then by all means do it. To be fair ive watched the poker on the TV and it wasnt bad but lets be fair, who really wants to watch it? If your staying in/up to watch then may god help you!
  • ybyb
    edited November 2010
    loool your posts are a bit of a joke tbf.

    Starting the ME at 6:30 is a stupid idea ldo, and how much interest would you actually earn in the couple of hours sky hold funds for? If these pennies make a difference to your life you shouldn't be playing poker imo.
  • edited November 2010
    ..... and breathe again
  • edited November 2010
    A joke? Eh not one of my points has been a joke.

    Its not the interest that I lose, its the actual point of someone taking my money from me and holding it.

    Say you won a tourney in a casino, do you need to go back in 24 hours to collect? Unlikely unless your collecting millions. Why is sky the only site in the world that steals your cash?

    No point debating about whether the money is important to me as "my dad will batter yours etc" and unless you post your wage slip on here then its all smoke.

    Why is starting the ME at 6.30 a bad idea? Enlighten me then! This is supposed to be a forum but when someone comes on with ideas you people who apparetnly know everything have very little to say.
  • edited November 2010
    I agree there should be tourney for 6.30 good idea, not the main though as previously stated gives people a chance to have dinner put children to bed etc. fact of the matter is 8-9 is probably the busiest time on the site so ofc why not have ME at 8pm

    I like yourself work but at latest they will end 1am but often before 12, fair enough if you get up at 4-5am but still thats not skys fault

    the rest though your chatting out your bumcheeks
  • edited November 2010
    6.30 is an awful time to start....a lot of people only leave work at 5.30 and some people spend 45mins/1hr travelling home...

    but then the 6 min level idea makes me think even more that this is a joke.

    seriously if u dont like how things happen on sky then go to Coral.
  • edited November 2010

    oh dear

    bye then



  • edited November 2010
    Well I never said anything about the ME, I was referring to sky's tourney that begin @ 8pm each night whether it be the Rebuy etc.

    Whilst 8pm may be the busiest time, get the people on at 6ish and they will be more inclined to play the cash games once ejected from the tourneys, if you get papped at 11 then you just hit the hay but if you get ejected at 9 then your much more likely to stay on and play.

    Well taking a chance of staying up until 1 maybe later isnt really an option. Whilst it isnt skys fault that I need to get up early, I imagine more people than not would be up for starting the tourneys at half 6.

    Lets be honest, you'll never please everyone and people will still ahve gripes but its better to please the majority, I feel that this site is ran by a few players who get what they want yet the rest have to like it or lump it.

    Sample startnig the tourneys earlier and you'll see an improvement in the numbers, I guarentee it
  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: This Site....:
    6.30 is an awful time to start....a lot of people only leave work at 5.30 and some people spend 45mins/1hr travelling home... but then the 6 min level idea makes me think even more that this is a joke. seriously if u dont like how things happen on sky then go to Coral.
    Posted by scotty77
    Do you read anything I write? Clearly you are unable to or you choose to disregard the bits you dont like.

    It's clowns like yourself attitude that drive people away from skypoker, telling me to go to coral? I've already stated several times that I do play there but enjoy sky for other reasons ie they have a decent betting site and withdrawls are swift.

    And you know for a fact that most people take an hour to get home? Maybe they do but 6 minute levels is certainly not a joke, just check out how popular the turbos are no the major sites and youll quickly see that times are rapidly changing and people are tired of donating 6 hours to tourney
  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: This Site....:
    I am not referring to the withdrawl of cash, I have already stated that this is swift. I am referrring to the "holding period" of your cash. Obviously nobody has mentioend this as it is clearly too sensible a point for most on here to debate but I will anyway! Sky's USP? Turn it up!!! Oooh, we have 400 players for you to play with and 399 of them are playing with each other! Yeah great seeling point..... Traffic is spread thin? What thinner than on here? Must be one of the lowest elvels of traffic on the web when you consider just how many customers skybet and vegas have. Why cant sky get them onto their poker? Becasue of the shortfalls! Just admit it and take the blinkers off! Have you not read anything I ahve said? Im having a pop at sky yes but I believe it has the foundations for a decent site yet the folk in charge are retards with some of the stuff that goes on. 8pm would be fine if they brought in 6 minute levels, just now its far too long for those who need to re-surface the follwoing morning to work And yes, if sacking tikay and the other balloons on the box meant offering a better service then by all means do it. To be fair ive watched the poker on the TV and it wasnt bad but lets be fair, who really wants to watch it? If your staying in/up to watch then may god help you!
    Posted by guru87

    I cant think of any!!!!!!!!
    And yes, god help me cos i watch the shows, well god help those that watch jungle, or x-factor, or the news fffffffffsssssss

    Thats why we are a democratic country, hold on i cant watch such-and-such on the telly cos so-and-so says its wrong. You also have your democratic right to play on other sites, nobody is stopping you

    The 8pm starting time is perfect for main events...............and its all paid out in POUNDS not dollars, no doubt youd be complaining of £-$ conversion rates if it was dollars.

    All in all, I say "KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SKYPOKER" and its fabulous team of presenters and behind-the-scenes guys/gals.

    Oh, 1 other thing, i got a tax rebate earlier this week, but its not cleared in my account yet, come on sky your costing me interest!!!!



  • edited November 2010
    i wouldnt play a main event with 6-minute blind levels..........................................1 of the things the site/channel has been doing is trying to improve the general level of poker played.............not a luckbox shovefest......

    To be honest, the new blind structure in the primo is perfect. And in the monthly biggy obviously :)

    There are plenty of tournaments throughout the evening, but after some research and noticing trends, Sky have obviously decided on which are most popular with its clientele....

    6-minute blinds ME??? Roulette anyone???
  • edited November 2010

    Heeellloooooo Guru87 welcome to the forum ;o)

    Sky at the bequest of the players have just increased the blind structure on the 8pm's to allow for better play rather than having a shove fest after 2nd break...however there are still speed/velocity tourny's available for those who prefer...also the BH tend to finish pre midnight also...Thusday's usually have a good gtd also...

    Yes, the traffic here is lower than elsewhere however this is due to a number of reasons...Sky tend to cater for the UK market though hence plaing in pounds and pence rather than dollars and cents...Also, it's one of the few 'independents' on the market place which means that it isn't part of a conglomerate of 15 skins pulling together...you mention ipoker however every forum i have ever visited has nothing good to say about them...

    Coral on the other and I couldn't comment on as i haven't heard anything either way...

    A lot of regulars play here because it's fun and friendly and they can catch up with pals and enjoy the game..

    Not sure what problems you're having with held funds though...it's not something that i have ever experienced - sorry!

    The shows on tv are excellent in terms of interaction and feedback and many players arrive at the site after 'finding' the poker channel on their sky box...plus, if they don't have internet they can still play via the tv platform - which again is very unique!

    You say you like it here which is nice to hear...hopefully, in time you'll also come to appreciate the closeness of the site - really we're a smashing bunch on here...

    Hope you decide to stick around but good luck whatever you decide

    Take care

    Irene xx

  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: This Site....:
    In Response to Re: This Site.... : I cant think of any!!!!!!!! And yes, god help me cos i watch the shows, well god help those that watch jungle, or x-factor, or the news fffffffffsssssss Thats why we are a democratic country, hold on i cant watch such-and-such on the telly cos so-and-so says its wrong. You also have your democratic right to play on other sites, nobody is stopping you The 8pm starting time is perfect for main events...............and its all paid out in POUNDS not dollars, no doubt youd be complaining of £-$ conversion rates if it was dollars. All in all, I say "KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SKYPOKER" and its fabulous team of presenters and behind-the-scenes guys/gals. Oh, 1 other thing, i got a tax rebate earlier this week, but its not cleared in my account yet, come on sky your costing me interest!!!!
    Posted by JAEGERBOMB
    Ive heard it all now.

    Take your tongue out of skys rear and smell the fresh air.

    I've already said that parts of the site are quality, its just the bad parts are really poor and require attention.

    Stop giving the nonesense about democratic rights blah blah blah, staying in to watch sky poker is the mark of man sociablly unable to communicate with fellow beings.

    I couldnt care less if sky pay me in pounds, dollars, yen or punts. Makes no difference to me so maybe this is part of the reason why sky attracts no players? Maybe we could look at changing this to attract more european players?

    Tax rebate? Seriously, you'r argument doesnt even make sense. So if you place a bet in a bookies, provised they've the cash to pay out, do they ask you to wait 24 hours to see if the football match was fixed? Same if you win playing roulette in a casino? Ehhh NO!
  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: This Site....:
    [ Not sure what problems you're having with held funds though...it's not something that i have ever experienced - sorry!  Irene xx
    Posted by TRIP5


    Really????

    Oh btw Irene, very well put.......your education is far better thasn mine :(
  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: This Site....:
    In Response to Re: This Site.... : I cant think of any!!!!!!!! And yes, god help me cos i watch the shows, well god help those that watch jungle, or x-factor, or the news fffffffffsssssss Thats why we are a democratic country, hold on i cant watch such-and-such on the telly cos so-and-so says its wrong. You also have your democratic right to play on other sites, nobody is stopping you The 8pm starting time is perfect for main events...............and its all paid out in POUNDS not dollars, no doubt youd be complaining of £-$ conversion rates if it was dollars. All in all, I say "KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SKYPOKER" and its fabulous team of presenters and behind-the-scenes guys/gals. Oh, 1 other thing, i got a tax rebate earlier this week, but its not cleared in my account yet, come on sky your costing me interest!!!!
    Posted by JAEGERBOMB
    Ive heard it all now.

    Take your tongue out of skys rear and smell the fresh air.

    I've already said that parts of the site are quality, its just the bad parts are really poor and require attention.

    Stop giving the nonesense about democratic rights blah blah blah, staying in to watch sky poker is the mark of man sociablly unable to communicate with fellow beings.

    I couldnt care less if sky pay me in pounds, dollars, yen or punts. Makes no difference to me so maybe this is part of the reason why sky attracts no players? Maybe we could look at changing this to attract more european players?

    Tax rebate? Seriously, you'r argument doesnt even make sense. So if you place a bet in a bookies, provised they've the cash to pay out, do they ask you to wait 24 hours to see if the football match was fixed? Same if you win playing roulette in a casino? Ehhh NO!
  • edited November 2010
    Going by his sharkscope graph I am amazed he has had any money to withdraw to be honest.
  • edited November 2010
    Hi Irene, thanks for the post, at last someone who thinks before they hammer away!

    People seem to think I am bashing their beloved sky, yes I am in a way but only in a way that improves things. Putting up with mediocrity is foolish when a few small improvements could yield a massive improvement overall.

    If I hated the site then its not as though there's a limited choice of competitors.

    Ipoker, from my experience through Hills and BetFred is fine. Admittedly I've spoke with folk who have encountered trouble but only with skins that I've never heard of and sound suspect.

    If sky wanted to move to ipoker or ongame then of course you could still keep your tourneys and maybe  few £ tables. Whilst I applaud sky for attempting to change things by playing in £'s it only favours the UK players and not the millions of other europeans who are crippled by the exchange rate. Sure turning euors into pounds is good but if you won then you wold be shafted.

    If you've never experienced problems with held funds then it only adds to my arguemtn about preferencial treatment of some on this site.

    I've had over £600 frozen for well over a day before. In the end it was sky's own loss as I was planning on punting it no the footy and subsequently afforded myself a holiday whereby if they had released it I would of lost. Fair enough it worked out for me this time but the entire practise is still not correct.
  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: This Site....:
    Going by his sharkscope graph I am amazed he has had any money to withdraw to be honest.
    Posted by donkeyplop
    indeed, those 19 games are a true testament of a mans ability....
  • edited November 2010
    Sorry for the delay in reply, I had to have a cup coffee to remove taste of skys rear from my mouth.

    Funds held - So what - I am GLAD they check for collusion and responsible gaming.................like another poster already said......if your that desperate for the money surely you should be looking elsewhere.........

    Communicate other people with can I??? Nope, im tooo busy posting on internet forums, such a sad life i lead
  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: This Site....:
    Hi Irene, thanks for the post, at last someone who thinks before they hammer away! People seem to think I am bashing their beloved sky, yes I am in a way but only in a way that improves things. Putting up with mediocrity is foolish when a few small improvements could yield a massive improvement overall. If I hated the site then its not as though there's a limited choice of competitors. Ipoker, from my experience through Hills and BetFred is fine. Admittedly I've spoke with folk who have encountered trouble but only with skins that I've never heard of and sound suspect. If sky wanted to move to ipoker or ongame then of course you could still keep your tourneys and maybe  few £ tables. Whilst I applaud sky for attempting to change things by playing in £'s it only favours the UK players and not the millions of other europeans who are crippled by the exchange rate. Sure turning euors into pounds is good but if you won then you wold be shafted. If you've never experienced problems with held funds then it only adds to my arguemtn about preferencial treatment of some on this site. I've had over £600 frozen for well over a day before. In the end it was sky's own loss as I was planning on punting it no the footy and subsequently afforded myself a holiday whereby if they had released it I would of lost. Fair enough it worked out for me this time but the entire practise is still not correct.
    Posted by guru87

    So lets crippled the thousands of British players, who choose this site because its not in dollars or euros????
  • edited November 2010
    Nice, but I doubt it will belong before your next fill of skypoker love....

    Your glad that someone holds your money? What if I came and held your bank account for aday? Just incase you had a dodgy payment to/from someone? Fair?

    Fair enough the first couple of times you play yes but once they see you are a trusted player its a joke.

    I cant understand why people cant have a reasonable debate about changes? SO you think that this site is incredible well Im sorry to inform you that it is miles behind the quality sites.

    Fair enough if you like it then by all means play here but by responding to my posts you clearly want to try and embarass me in front of everyone and im not having that....my reputation means to much to me.

    It seems you also seem to think you are a comedian, I've laughed at a lot of the replies Ive had here as they are quite amusing, you however, are as amusing as a kidney stone
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