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Should we listen to their advice?
Can i ask why my image was deleted please? There was nothing offensive on there and all sharkscope results are viewable by anyone free of charge?!?!?
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Ok here is something at may or may not suprise you... We all listen to the skypoker channel and take advice from the presenters/professionals... BUT SHOULD WE???
Take a look at this image... and then decide, are these the people to take advice from??
:-D
P.S this is only a "banter post" you know me, im not serious!!!!
hi m8 reckon your picture hasn't gone past pending yet i am waiting as well
michael
Looks like for some reason, they dont want to show it?
The problem with checking these stats on sharkscope is, some players use a different alias on different sites, My scope shows i'm losing 1500 over the last 10 months but overall I'm in front over 12 months, I wouldn't take to much on board those stats can be miss-leading as to a players ability.
I have a different alias for 4 different sites. Admitted i play here most of the time, but if i play cash , Hi Lo Stud and Hi Lo Omaha I'm on another site under another alias...
Some stats aren't worth bothering about..and, is it fair to put the stats of players on a forum, it wouldn't worry or embarrass me but i don't think I'd like winnings being posted, someone might wont a 'sub' !!
Yea like the'd have a chance ... hehee
Just cos they're pony poker players, doesn't mean they can't be master to your grasshopper.
Guys.
I was alerted to this Thread by a series of 'phone calls over the weekend, but I was Offline all day yesterday & unable to respond.
I never saw the original Post in it's un-edited form, but I gather it suggested that I had a losing record on Sky Poker based on Sharkscope Stats.
google Serarch Engines being the efficient things they are, this "info" is now widely disseminated in the domain. Which is a little embarrassing, given my position here at Sky Poker.
So, as the guy in Pulp Fiction said, "allow me to retort".
1) Please note it's improper, legally & morally, to publish Players Sharkscope data. I don't know why, or by whom, the Picture/Data was deleted, but I imaqine Sky Poker deemed it improper to publish such copyrighted material. See "Sharkscope Terms & Conditions" on Sharkscope.com.
2) Sharkscope Data is not comprehensive, & it is frequently wrong.
3) Sharkscope Data does not include Cash Game stats.
4) I am a profitable player on Sky Poker, & will demonstrate this via a full disclosure of my Account Histories shortly. (it takes a bit of time to gather it all together).
My response may seem a bit OTT, & I fully understand that the Thread/Post was intended as a bit of fun.
However, I hold an Analysts & Consultants position here at Sky Poker, & I'm also about to start being involved in a new Promotion for Sky Poker. So the notion that I am a losing player is a little embarrassing, & I now feel obliged to correct the impressioin that has been given.
It has now been suggested in the Office today that the PTP-ers should "block" their Sharkscope Stats from open viewing, an Option every player has. I do not intend to block mine, as I have nothing to hide.
Sorry to get heavy about this, but it's lain on the Forum for nearly 2 days now, withouit being challenged, so untold numbers of players have seen it - & it's wrong.
As always, when you guys ask me questions, I'll give it to you clean. Please undersatand, though, my reputation, my professional pride, & my honour, matter a great deal to me.
Thanks.
My PTP Account is "TIKAY10".
Sky Poker Deposited £500 in this in April or May 2008, & I conducted PTP "Trial Nights" for 3 months. Then, with the others, the PTP Promotion began properly in about September last year.
I have so far done 74 PTP "sessions", each of 5 hours duration.
My PTP Account has varied between £250 & £900, depending on form & variance. It's currently under £300.
I will explain how I approach PTP Sessions further on, but all things considered, I'm quite happy with that number, & when you see how I approach PTP's, you'll agree, I think.
The Account has never been topped up.
When we do PTP, we have an obligation to play several Tourneys, including the 9pm Main Event, (Entry Fees vary between £10 & £50) plus Cash Games.
My Private Account is "tikay1".
It currently stands at about £700.
I have Deposited approximately £900 (of my own money) into this Account over 2 years & 7 monrghs - I've always played on the Site a lot.
That would suggest a £200 Loss.
However.....
Most of you know I have played only One Deepstack Showdown*. This cost £110 to enter, & I came 2nd for, I think, £600. This is not listed in "my" Sharkscope. I know not why, but you all know the facts - I got £600+ for 2nd place, just a few weeks back. And that's not on Sharkscope.
* (Note I entered one other Deepstack Showdown, cost £110, on the very first week, as I was keen to get the Tourney off to a good start. In fact, as I was working on at DTD on In-Poker that night, & was unable to log on & play - so it cost me £110 & I never played a single hand.
So, that account is nicely in profit.
"Studio Account".
It's well-known that, playing in the Studio one night, I won the 9pm Open, for just over £1,500. For Technical Ressons, a specific "studio" Account was used, as the winnings are donated to charity.
So I never got a penny for winning it, (though I was delighted the Charity did), but it seems reasonable to me that it should be included in my Site Stats.
Finally, I play a little Cash mainly on my "TIKAY10" Account. I'm profitable in this.
It's quite important to me to correct the wrong impression given in the OP, which were stated as facts.
Finally......
I can see where you are coming from my friend.
I don't see why anyone, in jest or serious, would feel the need to do this.
In the past i have had some excellent coaches in different sports, who have not had the ability to compete at the highest level. YOU DO NOT FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.
Have people forgotten your blogs about your poker life.
On Sky poker you have said that, when you are on PTP you don't look to make a profit but break even, and that is laudable of you.
However your problem on here is that when you play your own account some players seem to forget that its your own money and still play to take you down. LET ANY OTHER PLAYERS TRY THIS AND STILL RETURN A PROFIT.
Finally, you should NEVER have to answer a question like this, as you have done far more than your fair share to promote this site and look after the players.
IMO Sharkscope should be banned, as i don't care if i'm playing a complete beginner or the WSOP champion, and as you say it doesn't cover the whole spectrum of poker games.
YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT SIR.
Col
Message to Tikay10
You dont need to explain yourself to anyone - you are a fair and honest bloke and its really good seeing you on Sky Poker.
I do listen to your advice, the only problem is that all the others do to so we all push LOL.
Take care
bombshell
B LUKKY
i would just like to say if it weren't for the show & advice i frequently get from Tikay & co my game wouldn't have moved forward just the other nite (sat) was watching the show (Rich & Tikay) and they were chatting about what cash tables to play so Rich says how he chooses (which is how most of us do) then Tikay tells us how he chooses & it was like a light-bulb went off in me head (never thought of that way b4) so tried it on a 2/4 table but was a mad house moved to the 4/8 took a £5 to the tables spent 2 days using Tikays way and am currently up on 3 of the tables slightly down on 1 with 1 to play based on 2 sessions on each table over 2 days
need i say anymore
dtw
YOU DONT HAVE TO LISTEN OR TAKE ANY ADVICE BUT FOR ME MY FATHERS WORDS OF WISDOM ARE YOU LEARN SOMETHING EVERY DAY,UP UNTIL YOU DIE HE WAS RIGHT.AS FOR TIKAY AND OTHERS BEING UPSET I DONT BLAME THEM,IF AS YOU SAY ITS A BIT OF BANTER WHY ARE THEY UPSET? COME ON GUYS GIVE EM A BREAK IF YOU DONT LIKE THE PRESENTING SWITCH OFF YOUR TELLY.GALVO 68
Hi, Tikay,
I think you have gone beyond the call of duty to answer the question. Very honest to allow people to know your accounts with Sky and not required as far as I'm concerned.
I've only started playing poker this spring and my enthusiasm for the game has grown immeasurably due to Sky Poker. The shows I always find humorous and informative (watched plenty of them!).
Keep up the good work sir!
Ross
Cripes, whlst I was finishing my "retort", the Thread has filled!
I'm nearly done now!
PTP Playing Style.
Many of you play me on PTP nights, so you can all validate this.
When I play PTP Cash, I adopt a certain line.
a) I don't want to lose Sky Poker's money. Professional pride & all that.
b) I don't wish to win Clients cash. That would not exactly be in Sky Poker's interest, now would it, to try to bust our own Players.
c) As an "Analyst", I'm supposed to be here to try & help out some of the newer, less experienced, Players, something I think I'm qualified & able to do.
So.....
In PTP Cash Games, as you all know, when I get a big hand, or flop a set, I type in the Chat-Box "BIG HAND ALERT". Folks frequently ignore that, but I do it all the time, & never falsify the situation. I also "show" every single winning hand, except Bluffs - I consider it commercially improper to "stick it in the eye" of our Clients, so I rarely Show bluffs. I do bluff on occasion, of course.
In Tournaments, I always show every winning hand - except in the late Stages of the £22 Deepie, where all the Players are quite experienced, & so it would be patronising so to do. My "game" is, therefore, more exposed than any other Player on this Site. You all know what I play, because I always show. And YOU know who you are playing, too.
In addition, the PTP-ers effectively play with a Bounty on their heads, as everyone wants to bust them - quite reasonably.
Finally, Questions come in via the Chat-Box thick & fast, & I try to answer every one. "Closed questions" ("you still in the £22 Deepie?") are easy, they are one line answers.
"Open Questions" are incredibly difficult to handle. Typically, for example, "why do you have two Accounts on Sky Poker" is a VERY good question, but quite hard to answer in less than a dozen lines, whilst the different Tables are popping up incessently. (They pop-up VERY fast in 6 Seater Format). "How should I play AK in early pos" is NOT a queston thats easy to answer whilst 2 or 3 Tabling, & in a Chat Box!
All this does, I think you'll agree, add considerably to the degree of difficulty.
Oddly, when I play on my Private Account, with my own money, I am, in effect, still a PTP-er, as the same questions still come in, I use the same "posh" PTP Avatar, & I answer every one exactly as I would on PTP Nights, so I don't really get "private nights" on Sky Poker.
These "difficulties" are equally experienced by all the PTP-ers - I say, in truth, it's one of the hardest & most intense things I've ever done, 5 hours of that is quite stressful. Very satisfying, though, & I love it.
Proof of that is that I'm contractually obligated to be on the Site only on PTP Nights - whereas in fact, I'm on it almost every night.
So, given those
circumstances, I have to say.
1) I am a profitable player on Sky Poker, as evidenced above, despite playing under more difficult circumstances than most. I'm quite proud of that, actually - as the standard of play on here is becoming very high.
2) Sharkscope Stats are notoriously unreliable.
3) Please - all of you - do NOT use Sharkscope Stats except for your own benefit. Chat Box comments such as "I've seen your Scope Stats, you are a donkey" are wholly improper. And other players Sharkscope Stats should never be reproduced on this Forum.
There you go, all done & dusted now. It's a learning curve for all of us. Together, we are going places.
PS - I know you meant no malice Charlie, but if you think about it, this was a "bit embarrassing" for me, so I needed to put the record straight.
See you tonight, in the 7pm Deepie! It's my PTP night, so I'll try & make a Profit, eh?
my brother loves u 2 tk...
OK Guys, that's it.
Next case!
See you toinight, in PTP.
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