Poor Etiquette in deep stack

Ozzie08

Hi all i have just been involved in a deep stack, and have been left very dispointed by the play of 1 player. This is wot happened, they suddenly say ive got 2 go so im going all in the nxt hand.

They then tell everyone at the table they have 10 4. In my opinion this is totally wrong and the best option would of been for this player 2 push without tellin ne1 wot hand they have. Or just log out and get blinded away,

Wot does every 1 else think of this situation, Ozzie

Huck_Nall

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Hi all i have just been involved in a deep stack, and have been left very dispointed by the play of 1 player. This is wot happened, they suddenly say ive got 2 go so im going all in the nxt hand. They then tell everyone at the table they have 10 4. In my opinion this is totally wrong and the best option would of been for this player 2 push without tellin ne1 wot hand they have. Or just log out and get blinded away, Wot does every 1 else think of this situation, Ozzie
Posted by Ozzie08

I agree but what can you do?
I have seen people do this with a hidden 'big' hand!

DELTA

name and shame ozzie m8

GREGHOGG

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Hi all i have just been involved in a deep stack, and have been left very dispointed by the play of 1 player. This is wot happened, they suddenly say ive got 2 go so im going all in the nxt hand. They then tell everyone at the table they have 10 4. In my opinion this is totally wrong and the best option would of been for this player 2 push without tellin ne1 wot hand they have. Or just log out and get blinded away, Wot does every 1 else think of this situation, Ozzie
Posted by Ozzie08

Ozzie, the person that did this is totally in the wrong because under no circumstances should any1 announce their actual hand. Besides, if he gets a double or trebble up, he may decide actually i dont want to go out afterall!

He should simply say sorry guys i have to go, and let himself be blinded out.

Ozzie08

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name and shame ozzie m8
Posted by DELTA

no i dont want 2 do that m8, its just if you got 2 go just chuck your chips in the middle dont tell every1 wot you got. No nned for that imo, Ozzie

Ozzie08

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In Response to Poor Etiquette in deep stack : Ozzie, the person that did this is totally in the wrong because under no circumstances should any1 announce their hand. Besides, if he gets a double or trebble up, he may decide actually i dont want to go out afterall! He should simply say sorry guys i have to go, and let himself be blinded out.
Posted by GREGHOGG

Thats very true gregg suddenly sittin there with 21k instead of the 7k may look a totally different gm 2 them. At least this person did actually have 10 4, Ozzie

IRISHROVER

i wonder is it possible for sky to put a rule in place , any one have any ideas how this could be done .

BADBOY985

YES TOTALLY WRONG HAD THIS HAPPEN TO ME THE OTHER DAY BLOKE SAID GOT 2 GO GOING ALL IN CALL ME PILLOWMAN DID WITH A GOOD HAND AND THE BLOKE FLUKED THE WIN HE DID IT TWICE MORE LUCKY FOR ME I HIT KINGS TO KNOCK HIM OUT.MIND YOU PILLOWMAN STILL MANAGED TO COME BACK AND KNOCK ME OUT ON THE BUBBLE LOL. BUT IF YOU CANT PLAY FOR A TIME OR FOR THE REST OF THE TOURNY YOU SHOULD TELL EVERYONE AND GO AWAY LET YOUSELF BE BLINDED OUT IF YOU DO COME BACK YOU SHOULD LET EVERYONE KNOW YOU ARE BACK BEFORE CONTINUING TO PLAY

Rattious

I was and am still sat at that table; I would have named the culprit, but table concensus is that its probably an inexperienced player. But, I have noted the name as have the others playing and I am sure someone will point it out to them in due course.

Ironically, if they had sat out in this Deep Stack format they could possibly have still picked up a place and league points and may bes some cash instead of leaving the table with nothing but bad feelings.

unknown_username

Your   right Ozzie, that  does  p i s s    everyone  off  when that happens   glk

Ozzie08

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Your   right Ozzie, that  does  p i s s    everyone  off  when that happens   glk
Posted by bennydip2

Yes benny every 1 was not 2 impressed by this, but hopefully people reading this thread it might stop some people from following this example. I know you have 2 go sometimes thats not the problem, Its tellin people wot cards you have that bugs me.
gl at the tbs yaself benny, Ozzie

DTWBANDIT

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Hi all i have just been involved in a deep stack, and have been left very dispointed by the play of 1 player. This is wot happened, they suddenly say ive got 2 go so im going all in the nxt hand. They then tell everyone at the table they have 10 4. In my opinion this is totally wrong and the best option would of been for this player 2 push without tellin ne1 wot hand they have. Or just log out and get blinded away, Wot does every 1 else think of this situation, Ozzie
Posted by Ozzie08

   i agree with u m8 don't know why they do it as it spoils the game

oynutter

hi oz--i figured out a fairer way  one time in a satellite 4 d open--i knew i wouldnt be back in time to play in it so i told the table they can all have 500 chips each if they call my raise in turn--so the man to my left calls the 500 raise and i fold on the flop without even checking--then the next man-and so on--obviously they all have to agree--someone said-"but what if i get aces and its not my turn"?--i said if anyone gets aa-kk or qq--just say "big one" in the chat box and we'll change the order  ---no-one did so it worked out fine and everyone got 500 chips---i think it was fairer than login out because an away player can also ruin the game play when the blinds get bigger--- also --i thought--if i just keep going all in i might knock  out someone with a-k with a silly hand and really pee them off--what you think?

Ozzie08

I think yr a nutter oynutter m8 lol, other than that, how can a away person affect the gm they are not there, if you get a hand you riase, and if you dont the small blind takes the aways persons bb.Ozzie

oynutter

yes oz--but thats not really fair either because the small blind would get most of my chips--and it ruins game play because this annoys other players and they often raise to steal when they wouldnt normally do so

Ozzie08

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yes oz--but thats not really fair either because the small blind would get most of my chips--and it ruins game play because this annoys other players and they often raise to steal when they wouldnt normally do so
Posted by oynutter

Every 1 has the same chance 2 nick the blinds, wots the diff of nickin when every1 is there 2 when 1 person is away. If u think some1 is nickin push bk against em. They cant call if there raisein with AIR, Ozzie

oynutter

and another thing--if you take the time to read my profile page you will see (where its says descibe yourself) that i have written "probably not a nutter"--so there----lol

oynutter

thats it exactly oz--when the blinds get big it completely changes the game play-- someone may raise a third of thier stack just to take my blind---get re-raised--have to fold--lost a third of thier stack because i was away!--i seen it happen loads of times m8

TVSpice

think the key here is not how to play or not play against someone who is going or not but the fact that they told their hand.  unacceptable imo.

sky can do something about this and have done in the past - disqualified someone who won a tourny having done it.  they can do this again and that will get the message through to person concerned and all others who may be tempted to do this too

acebarry10

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Hi all i have just been involved in a deep stack, and have been left very dispointed by the play of 1 player. This is wot happened, they suddenly say ive got 2 go so im going all in the nxt hand. They then tell everyone at the table they have 10 4. In my opinion this is totally wrong and the best option would of been for this player 2 push without tellin ne1 wot hand they have. Or just log out and get blinded away, Wot does every 1 else think of this situation, Ozzie
Posted by Ozzie08

Hi Ozzie

This one is a toughie, partly because it is not a rule, therefore it is hard to enforced, this does not mean however it should be done, so players need to be educated as to what is good and bad form as it were, a little explanation in the chatbox would be in order, again however if that person has a genuine reason for having to leave the game I think there would have been better ways of dealing with it, maybe typing in the chatbox really have to go, need to lose? and than push hoping of course they dont hit, its hard. Telling the other played what she/he had doesnt guarantee that the hand would lose.

I think all we can do is keep chipping away at players like this so they will hopefuly learn.

Rattious

Having considered this for a couple of hours, I think they should be chat banned, the powers that be know (or can easily find out) who we are talking about and that will get the message home.

Ozzie08

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In Response to Poor Etiquette in deep stack : Hi Ozzie This one is a toughie, partly because it is not a rule, therefore it is hard to enforced, this does not mean however it should be done, so players need to be educated as to what is good and bad form as it were, a little explanation in the chatbox would be in order, again however if that person has a genuine reason for having to leave the game I think there would have been better ways of dealing with it, maybe typing in the chatbox really have to go, need to lose? and than push hoping of course they dont hit, its hard. Telling the other played what she/he had doesnt guarantee that the hand would lose. I think all we can do is keep chipping away at players like this so they will hopefuly learn.
Posted by acebarry10

Cheers 4 the reply barry i know its a tricky problem, but as i have said before i dont mind that they have left the game, if u have to leave u have to leave which is fair enough. Its the whole tellin the tb wot cards u have i disagree with. If im level on chips with 1 player and this player calls with j7 for example and wins the hand and db ups on me thats going 2 put me in a tricky posistion to gain chips on him.

There is no way this player is callin with his hand if the other plyer dosent say ive got 10 4 im pushin all in because i got 2 go. Ive seen this happen many times with raggy cards callin these bets because they see it as gd risk 2 reawrd policy. Ne way the hand that did call in this situation was QQ so he was callin all day neways. Gl at the tbs barry, Ozzie

oynutter

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Having considered this for a couple of hours, I think they should be chat banned, the powers that be know (or can easily find out) who we are talking about and that will get the message home.
Posted by Rattious

i think people have been chat banned for this reason--it is against the rules to announce your holding--so if someone does it--tell them not to--if they carry on--threaten to report them

Rattious

Cheers Nutter, hopefully the eye in the sky will look at them closely.

Gl tonight, I hope we avoid each other until late in the proceedings. Having said that I'll no doubt see you in five!

jimbo31

OZZIE SHOCKING MATE.... LET ME KNOW HIS/HER NAME..... ;-)) GIVE EM  A TASTE OF THERE OWN MEDICINE...HOPE ALL IS GOOD SHARKY!!

Ozzie08

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OZZIE SHOCKING MATE.... LET ME KNOW HIS/HER NAME..... ;-)) GIVE EM  A TASTE OF THERE OWN MEDICINE...HOPE ALL IS GOOD SHARKY!!
Posted by jimbo31

Everything is gr8 m8, gl 2nite on the tbs jimbo, Ozzie

Andyp42

I was in this game, in fact I was the player who went all in with QQ who took the players stack.

My view is it was bad form but the player thought she was doing us a favour....we were in a deep stack, to blind her out would have taken a long time.  she declared she was all in way before she did it and declared her hand...no one in that sense was disadvantaged...it was luck of the draw who had a good hand and in that sense unfair...but I was all in on my previous hand and had already decided to go all in on this one.

I've played with players in rl who talk about their cards, is this the same thing?  Upshot is...I think it was bad from but I don't think it was malicious and I'm glad we haven't named the player as I think it was an error and certainly not cheating or anything.

IRISHROVER

i was in this game also , nope i dont think the  player should be chat banned or named , a mistake yes but a rule should be put in place .

tiggerace7

Hi Guys

This is all very dangerous I have been in games where it has been said.. "sorry got to go" then they go all in every hand and no-one believes them and they are still there half an hour later......their chip stack now much higher. Their urgency apparently gone.

The best way I think is to say nothing and just keep going all in....til a player takes  the plunge to call.

Maybe then when they get beaten they can just make an apology in the chat box, as an explanation to their play.         In most games if a player continually goes "all in" its not long before another player calls.

I partly agree with Ozzie and Oynutter, if a player is away it does automatically change the game. I also think it is very hard to expect sky to control this situation but maybe they could give us an opinion on what a player should do if they have to leave the game unexpectedly. This is more likely to happen in the deep stacks as these games always take a lot longer.

Pam

tiggerace7

Hi again,

Just as a added note a player can be marked away due to technical problems beyond their control and of course this has the same effect on the game and there can be no solution to that problem..... It is "Just Poker"

TORTUS007

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Hi all i have just been involved in a deep stack, and have been left very dispointed by the play of 1 player. This is wot happened, they suddenly say ive got 2 go so im going all in the nxt hand. They then tell everyone at the table they have 10 4. In my opinion this is totally wrong and the best option would of been for this player 2 push without tellin ne1 wot hand they have. Or just log out and get blinded away, Wot does every 1 else think of this situation, Ozzie
Posted by Ozzie08

I think sky should show them the red card (or red postillion) and ban them from playing for a week.Problem solved.
Couldnt sky help organise a players committee, like working mens clubs,not being sexist just an example.they could have a private thread to discuss and decide themselves what to do in situations like this.You could easily get 12 fair people from people who use the forums alot, and it can only help sky poker. What do people think???