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I think it's ok to have a little moan if you are not happy, and by all means suggest alternatives for SP to consider, but 'what a joke' is obv a bit OTT.
In reply to Gary's comment. I dont think the money bonus is as great as you thought it was, Yes winning £250 or what ever it was is great, but if you think how much these guys have played to get 1st. They must of played 3-4k's worth of buyins on MTT and STT, and god knows how much money LOL_RAISE has put on the table in the last 3 months, when you are 12 tabling from 500nl to 100nl, then a few hundred quid is nothing.
Nit picking here a bit, I understand your argument DOHH as you don't want to play live, but I can't see anybody "Buying" a seat worth £1k for £1,200 .. Surely they would just buy themselves in?
This is a good idea from Sky, from what I hear I think they do ask a bit too much from there TSP members though, as a lot of future qualifiers will be in full time work, having to travel to the studio regually and being forced into playing MTTs on certain nights. But at the end of the day its a free 1k seat with possibly more in the future, its not to be sniffed at!
I'm not sure what all the changes are just yet because I was working through the start of last nights show. I only hope there is nothing in the rules to say that ex-TSP'ers cannot enter.
Being part ov TSP is an amazing prize, and I will be trying to quilify for the next quarter (if im allowed).
I know the prize's and structure of the current TSP qualifier are well tasty, but it seems that that excact prize pool and structure has been adopted into the new Survivor tournement final, and just for a quid its alot cheaper and easier for anybody to enter so should be fun, and im looking forward to it..
1 MTT with 90 runners at the end of the 3 months and not 3 lots of 30
6 seats up for grabs
no cash prizes
i hear that miss england has decided to sell her place in miss world next month. the highest bid so far is from homer simpson. d'oh!!!
the league was only introduced 2 years or so ago. Sky Poker had been running for about 2 years before that and we all still played. in fact, we all still played before Cash for Points was even there.
I suggest that you opt out of the league.
And the selling the spots on the team is just lol. You don't want TSP membership. Then don't play. There are hundreds of people who narrowly missed out on the MTT qualifier places who would jump at the chance for this opportunity.
I promised to "formally" Post the details today, & time, as ever, is a problem, but I will Post them, below. I announced them on last night's Show fairly clearly, but not everyone watches it, of course. A new Landing Page, with all the details, will be up shortly, too.
I must emphasise that this is for the QUALIFICATION period 1st April - 30th June, with TSP Membership from 1st July - 30th September.
The rules for the qualification period which ended yesterday, for TSP Membership April-June inclusive remain "as was". Details of who is qualified to play in the Qualification Finals on Sunday 10th April will be announced on Monday. (Some players will be "removed" from the lists, & so in some cases, it's possible that players beneath 30th will still qualify).
The revised qualification criteria will be in my next Post.
Here is exactly what Head Office - Adam in this case - sent me.
1) There will now be only 1 TSP qualifying tournament at the end of the Quarter, this will be made up of 90 runners (Top 30 Cash, Top 30 STT, Top 30 MTT as previous). Previously rules stated 3 separate tournaments, 1 for each discipline.
2) The Top 6 of this tournament will all qualify for TSP – compared to only 3 packages in total previously.
3) There will be no additional cash prize pool.
4) Chip stacks will still be defined by finishing position of respective leagues, exactly as per current rules. I.E. 1st in Cash, STT, MTT all take 10,000 chips into the single qualifier. 30th in Cash, MTT & STT all take 4000. Everything else remains exactly the same as it is currently. Qualification will run from 1st April – 30th June 2011 with the new format TSP final on Sunday 10th July.
The hostility arises, I suspect, because of the tone of his Post. Every action has an equal reaction, & all that. I don't really believe he is being "flamed" for his view, just the way he expressed it really.
To quickly contextualise Team Sky Poker.
It's not going to suit everyone, but Sky Poker think it will continue to prove popular.
"Entry" is free, & is not obligatory, anyone who so wishes can opt out. It is, in effect, a freeroll. It certainly does incentivise (some) people to play more. In return, it offers various benefits.
I assume everyone is aware of the list of "benefits", which includes a MINUMUM of 1 x £1,000 Live Event, no matter who they are or how much or little they rake, free & automatic entry to any SPT Event in their "current" Quarter, an invitation to appear on the TV Show at least once, an invitation to have their "own" TSP Night on SkyPoker.com at least once per fortnight, a Blog if they want it, etc. They are all given a set of Team Sky Poker apparel, get their photos taken professionally for display on the website & in poker media, da de da. Sort of "Live the poker dream" for a while. It's fully recognized that not every player wants that. It's also recognized that most do, especially given there is no entry fee, unless you include "working hard" to earn the spot.
Any questions, fire away. Not literally, like.....
TBH if you don't want a place in the TSP, then you can decline to play in this, and give someone else the chance, who is not really bothered about any financial outcome, to represent Sky in the future.
col
The system was changed because there was genuine player concern as to how the Qualification Finals, which offered both cash & the TSP Spot, would affect the dynamic of qualification. Clear evidence on this Community exists that it did cause problems. Not any more, though.
The rules MAY be changed again for the subsequent renewals of TSP, depending on how this one works, & player feedback.
It was suggested by some - Dohhhh was one, I think - that TSP "spots" could be "traded", or sold. I have not sent that upstairs for clarification, because it's self-evident that it would not work, or be acceptable to them. Players qualify, or they don't, money cannot buy Membership. Not even MasterCard can do that.
I think you have made a MASSIVE MISTAKE here, it is that you and Sky have tried to listen to, what was quite a big argument/discussion last time, people who were dismayed that some players seemed to alude to the fact that thay would rather win an amount of money than take up the team place.
By doing this Sky might alienate one or two players, from this process, but what these people seem to forget is that the process is to FIND NEW MEMBERS OF TEAM SKY POKER.
I think you have got it correct this time, so don't give up trying to please all of the people all of the time.
NICE TRY SIR
Regards
Col
Big mistake Sky...
BIG MISTAKE!
one question though.
if say a member of TSP gets 40k C4P in a month for £2k bonus +25% for priority club is £2.5k total. will the player receive £2k or £2.5k worth of tourney packages?
Good effort last night in the £220, one more successful shove & you'd have been right in the mix. T'was not to be.
Would you care to expand, & give your reasoning?
Sounds kind of rude and smutty!