First try of the new master cash tables pretty deep, so what is going on here?

donkeyplop

What is your move here?

This guy was very laggy to say the least!

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
mattk09	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£19.70
triplem1	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£31.64
	Your hole cards	A A
ImOrthodox	Fold
Fat_Uncle	Raise		£1.00	£1.30	£38.60
dolphins72	Fold
donkeyplop	Raise		£3.40	£4.70	£36.71
mattk09	Fold
triplem1	Fold
Fat_Uncle	Call		£2.40	£7.10	£36.20
Flop
		6 8 2
Fat_Uncle	Check
donkeyplop	Bet		£5.33	£12.43	£31.38
Fat_Uncle	Raise		£14.21	£26.64	£21.99
donkeyplop	???

Dudeskin8

I'd probably just shove and get called by a set, folding here just seems too tight and recently I've been trying to not be such a dirty nit. Calling's not an option I assume.

GREGHOGG

I recognise that player for some reason

I think he played sngs a while back im not sure

Yes. thats about as good a board as you can get for AA. He could easily have 1010 through to KK.

Its an auto stack off imo. And if he has a set so be it innit.

TWRAMYEP

push, kaching

AMYBR

Paint pocket

N1CK

get it in

yb

I'd call

GREGHOGG

In Response to Re: First try of the new master cash tables pretty deep, so what is going on here?:

I'd call
Posted by yb

with a view to getting it in on the turn i guess.

Ye i dont mind this because there is a chance that he is bluffing with complete air based on the read that he is very laggy! we dont want to fold out his air we want him to hang himself on the turn.

donkeyplop

This table turned out to be the maddest ive played on sky!

Uncle pat got his stack well up over £200!!

There were 3 guys giving each other abuse for 2 hours and a very tilted dohhhhhhhh!

N1CK

was he always opening x5?

pod1

get it all in ya wuss!!

beaneh

call dont raise!

donkeyplop

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was he always opening x5?
Posted by N1CK

He was opening all sorts!

His range was also on par with simsims.

AJW1976

u simply cannot flat call any moron who said that above needs there bu$t whooped..either fold or shove all in .I would do the latter and blow my stack seems like hes got trup 88s or 2 pair..ALL INNNNNNNNNNN

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: First try of the new master cash tables pretty deep, so what is going on here?:

u simply cannot flat call any moron who said that above needs there bu$t whooped..either fold or shove all in .I would do the latter and blow my stack seems like hes got trup 88s or 2 pair..ALL INNNNNNNNNNN
Posted by AJW1976

Can you explain why you think this?

donkeyplop

In Response to Re: First try of the new master cash tables pretty deep, so what is going on here?:

u simply cannot flat call any moron who said that above needs there bu$t whooped..either fold or shove all in .I would do the latter and blow my stack seems like hes got trup 88s or 2 pair..ALL INNNNNNNNNNN
Posted by AJW1976

That makes no sense!

If you put him on 2 pair or a set why on earth would you shove?

The way he was playing he could of literally had any 2 there.

donkeyplop

Also remember these tables are deepstacks, obv if he did that on a normal table and say I had 50bbs left then snap shove, but I had 150bbs left after he re raised.

delaney09

ship it in then be happy when he turns over 8X but hunt him down when that 8 comes on the river.... what did u do ?

dylan12

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call dont raise!
Posted by beaneh[/QUOTE

This!! 

donkeyplop

If I call flop, then what?

If he shoves do you then fold?

beaneh

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If I call flop, then what? If he shoves do you then fold?
Posted by donkeyplop

hell no 

CALL CALL CALL AGAIN YAY GOT ACES CALL ALL IN WEEEEE YAY FUNNAMENTS

beaneh

In Response to Re: First try of the new master cash tables pretty deep, so what is going on here?:

u simply cannot flat call any moron who said that above needs there bu$t whooped..either fold or shove all in .I would do the latter and blow my stack seems like hes got trup 88s or 2 pair..ALL INNNNNNNNNNN
Posted by AJW1976

fwiw I don't have a bust. I am flat chested.

donkeyplop

Yes I was never folding there, by the sounds of the responses I made the wrong choice and shoved!

I knew he was never folding as he was mad but I  should of called then snapped his shove right?

beaneh

yeah call call, let him bluff if he is, let him overvalue a hand if he is etc.

AJW1976

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In Response to Re: First try of the new master cash tables pretty deep, so what is going on here? : Can you explain why you think this?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

cos ure letting him hit his inside straight draw! and at best ure avoiding another turn flushy card that could also improve his hand giving him odds to call next on the river.!

You either ship it or raise it enough so that he knows you are committed to the hand ! easy really.

@!! xx

AJW1976

not being funny i just said what greghoff just said how weird is that?? after looking back throught the posts...

Anyway ,You do have a point regarding folding if he has 2 pair or trips but thats the gamble , you stuck 9 quid in the pot , u got 27 behind and ure wondering whether or not to shove or fold?

Know what i would do in a instant ..u dont want to give him ANY free cards at all on this board

yb

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@!! xx
Posted by AJW1976

lol at protecting our hand against back door flush draws. this is a great board for us and we are in position against a guy who is aggro, calling and letting him bluff again on the turn is defo the best option.

beaneh

I cant really think of many turn cards I dont want to see. 

free cards are fine. gogogogo stacking off

donkeyplop

The flop was about as dry as it could be lol.

If it was all paint cards then id be worrying more.............

AJW1976

loook all im saying is if he had an overpair hes shipping it in with ya regardless , If hes got a set u would have to imagine he would slow play THAT on the flop instead of your aces imo!

Hey im not a pro but ive played enough and done a lot of poker in the past 5 years ,.....i would just jam it if u lose the $$$  over 2 pair so fing what ...

He has a decision then to call ure all in shove doesnt he! make it difficult for your opponant isnt that what its about??

I cannot imagine anyone slowplaying aces here no way dont care who you are. I know its a cash game imo large differance to tourney ethics but i mean wtf u still have to jam 27 more into  18 pound pot . if he calls and he has top pair or draw then ure happy. its unlikely hes calling your preflop raise with junk!!  And if he has then u just got unlucky, you gotta think the hand through what could he have ? etc

AJW1976

and yb u gotta think outside the box mate..  if hes stupid enough to reraise hes prolly stupid enought to pay you off on the flop in any case!@!!!