Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand

ige

wow hit quad 10s today.coming thick n fast at the moment.

snorky

I don't get it how can these hand keep appearing over and over again?

It just doesn't make sense,it defies the logic and all the odds it's as if the hands are not random at all

But surely thats just  ridiculous, they use a random number generator lol.

Elsadogs spot on "When it wants you out it gets you out" lol

   

grantorino

This one time my 22 was beaten by AK all in pre flop. How can this happen? its not fair

DIPLOMAT44

In Response to Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand:

This site has just gone downhill so badly! If only the lottery numbers were as easy to predict as the next cards Hand History #366528193 (12:08 29/04/2011) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance JohnConnor Small blind   10.00 10.00 990.00 baggs Big blind   20.00 30.00 980.00   Your hole cards 8 J       JohnConnor Raise   40.00 70.00 950.00 baggs Call   30.00 100.00 950.00 Flop     10 9 7       baggs Check         JohnConnor Bet   75.00 175.00 875.00 baggs Raise   150.00 325.00 800.00 JohnConnor Raise   275.00 600.00 600.00 baggs All-in   800.00 1400.00 0.00 JohnConnor All-in   600.00 2000.00 0.00 JohnConnor Show 7 7       baggs Show 8 J       Turn     9       River     A       JohnConnor Win Full House, 7s and 9s 2000.00   2000.00
Posted by baggs

i feel for you m8 see this all day long in ever game i play rendom hands winning all the time what chance do we have thats sky poker bad beat system

Sky_Dave

I just saw a hand which went like this:

66 v T8 on a 679A board. All the money goes in. River is an ace.

Live EPTs are so rigged.

snorky

Yes but show us that happening every hour on the EPT and you would have a valid point.

Did you see four sets of quads in this tornament?

Did you see four suited cards come down after the all ins 3 or four times in this tourney


No?  Thought as much.

snorky

Hilarious.

dano001	Small blind		800.00	800.00	12685.00
LEEDSHX	Big blind		1600.00	2400.00	7195.00
	Your hole cards	A 2
DavePasta	Call		1600.00	4000.00	18210.00
GTPOKER	All-in		42617.50	46617.50	0.00
Alcatraz	All-in		4940.00	51557.50	0.00
snorky	Fold
dano001	Fold
LEEDSHX	Fold
DavePasta	All-in		18210.00	69767.50	0.00
GTPOKER	Unmatched bet		22807.50	46960.00	22807.50
DavePasta	Show	10 Q
GTPOKER	Show	Q Q
Alcatraz	Show	A 7
Flop
		5 9 8
Turn
		10
River
		10
DavePasta	Win	Three 10s	46960.00

snorky

could go on alnight

DavePasta	Small blind		800.00	800.00	44560.00
GTPOKER	Big blind		1600.00	2400.00	23607.50
	Your hole cards	10 8
snorky	Fold
dano001	Fold
LEEDSHX	All-in		6395.00	8795.00	0.00
DavePasta	Fold
GTPOKER	Call		4795.00	13590.00	18812.50
GTPOKER	Show	9 J
LEEDSHX	Show	Q 10
Flop
		9 9 5
Turn
		3
River
		K
GTPOKER	Win	Three 9s	13590.00

snorky

Could go on all night and this is just one tourney.

Ten high flop and three people with a ten in their hand lol

DavePasta	Small blind		75.00	75.00	5825.00
BADBOY985	Big blind		150.00	225.00	3880.00
	Your hole cards	2 8
truckernik	Call		150.00	375.00	3650.00
snorky	Fold
willie	Call		150.00	525.00	500.00
LEEDSHX	Raise		600.00	1125.00	4947.50
DavePasta	Call		525.00	1650.00	5300.00
BADBOY985	Fold
truckernik	Call		450.00	2100.00	3200.00
willie	All-in		500.00	2600.00	0.00
LEEDSHX	Call		50.00	2650.00	4897.50
DavePasta	Call		50.00	2700.00	5250.00
truckernik	Call		50.00	2750.00	3150.00
Flop
		6 10 4
DavePasta	Bet		900.00	3650.00	4350.00
truckernik	Fold
LEEDSHX	All-in		4897.50	8547.50	0.00
DavePasta	Call		3997.50	12545.00	352.50
DavePasta	Show	9 10
willie	Show	10 J
LEEDSHX	Show	K 10
Turn
		Q
River
		4
LEEDSHX	Win	Two Pairs, 10s and 4s	12545.00		12545.00

snorky

Only saw quad aces tonight on my tabel so maybe things are looking up.Usually see at least three sets a tourney.


Glad i don't play for big money here i would be livid by now.

AMYBR

In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand:

I was dealing at Alea Leeds last night First hand of a 10k freezeout I dealt AA to one player and KK to another, A on the turn just to make sure. In level 4 I dealt 88 vs 10 10 on a flop of 2 8 10 !! Later a flopped straight was beaten by runner runner flush ( the villain has called a raise with 5 6 sooted!) My RNG must have been a bit corrupt last night!
Posted by SolarCarro

I think people need to give this guy (or gal) more credit.  How many of us have been poker dealers?  It must be a credible insight as your viewing the game as a pure spectator, without bias or personal interest.  When we play our perceptions are subjective (our actions/opponents actions).  So I think someone experiencing the game in this way has a very valid POV.

pod1

agree amybr, watching poker with no vested interest takes on a whole different ball game.

snorky

I totally agree,take one tourney say the 1850 and record the hands and then analyse just how many action hands are present during that tourney and then do it again tommorrow etc
Can we do that with out playing then post how many quads how many outdraws how many Fh and how many four suited card flushes etc are made.

I for one would love would love to see the results ....as i am well on the side of action hands being made and the RNG not being R at all.

I am usually surprised by the cards just on my table no matter across other tables i'm not on lol

Still play for fun and not sure wether the results would suprise me or not

Would be interesting though...hmmm 

grantorino

you only get to see the cards when there are action hands.  good look going thru every single hand of a mtt

Spend less time whingeing here and more studying your game , you will make $$$. If you really think its based play somewhere else

Sky_Dave

In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand:

Yes but show us that happening every hour on the EPT and you would have a valid point. Did you see four sets of quads in this tornament? Did you see four suited cards come down after the all ins 3 or four times in this tourney No?  Thought as much.
Posted by snorky

One hour on the EPT = 15-20 hands.

One hour on Sky Poker = 70-100 hands. 

...hence more action. Also, in lower buyin tournaments where skill levels are, on average, lower and stack sizes more shallow, players are more likely to stack off lightly meaning you see more full boards play out. Again, another reason why you see more action hands.

Sky_Dave

As for dealing the beats yourself, I have done a bit of poker dealing in my time and on my SECOND ever table (this is in the first tournament I dealt), I managed to deal this board:

3c-6c-5c-4c-2c. and still stick one guy on monkey tilt after, being heads up on the river, is set all in. He snap calls as it shown 7c-7x.

I got some funny looks.

spornybol

In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand:

In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand : One hour on the EPT = 15-20 hands. One hour on Sky Poker = 70-100 hands.  ...hence more action. Also, in lower buyin tournaments where skill levels are, on average, lower and stack sizes more shallow, players are more likely to stack off lightly meaning you see more full boards play out. Again, another reason why you see more action hands.
Posted by Sky_Dave

only action hand i see is my misses ?????? ouch

harding10

In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand:

I totally agree,take one tourney say the 1850 and record the hands and then analyse just how many action hands are present during that tourney and then do it again tommorrow etc Can we do that with out playing then post how many quads how many outdraws how many Fh and how many four suited card flushes etc are made. I for one would love would love to see the results ....as i am well on the side of action hands being made and the RNG not being R at all. I am usually surprised by the cards just on my table no matter across other tables i'm not on lol Still play for fun and not sure wether the results would suprise me or not Would be interesting though...hmmm 
Posted by snorky

Would this be the £1.10 speed rebuy?

snorky

In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand:

you only get to see the cards when there are action hands.  good look going thru every single hand of a mtt Spend less time whingeing here and more studying your game , you will make $$$. If you really think its based play somewhere else


This is area 51 think i'll use it for what it was designed for.What i won't use it for is insulting other people.I promise to study my game more if you promise study your manners more.My opinion is merely that i find the cards being dealt almost unbeleivable at times and voice that in the correct part of the forum.What your looking for is the part of the forum for for insulting people and sitting on a pedalstool assuming your opinion is worth more than mine.Good luck. 

djblacke04

In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand:

you only get to see the cards when there are action hands.  good look going thru every single hand of a mtt Spend less time whingeing here and more studying your game , you will make $$$. If you really think its biased play somewhere else
Posted by grantorino

FYP

grantorino

thank you for correcting the most obv typo ever

snorky

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In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand : Would this be the £1.10 speed rebuy?
Posted by harding10

Yep that would be the one, only sugguested that cos i play that every night so that is that is where my opinion comes from.(no point having an opinion on cash if i don't play it). Not sure the cards should be any different in a cheaper game but do accept that far more calls will be made and people will have a far larger range as they can rebuy.
That said should the cards that are dealt in an £11 quid sudden death still be showing quads/FH?straights and flushes with the same regularity(the hands that you actually see).As i have said in previous posts I do not beleive this is unfair as we all face the same cards/chance.I do not beleive the game is rigged or fixed in any ones advantage what so ever.I do however find it amusing(sometimes) unbeleivable sometimes at the amount of times we see hands created that litterally give the players very little choice but to call all in bets.
Yet again i am not alone in my opinion many people suspect the hands are not created randomly but are designed to create this situation.I have said i could well be wrong/but you can only form an opinion on what you see.I do not question people who it is all perfect and could not possibly be improved.I do not tell them they are wrong they have the same amount of evidence as i have (none).It's unfortunate that people considerer other peoples opinions worth less than their own.Elsadog wrote"when it wants you out it gets you out"

I merely concur with that.Did used to play the velocities and opens but to be honest playing the micro games and having a pop at the RNG seems fun to me.Do not have a shark scope account or whatever it is but bet over the 5 six years i have been playing sky poker i am probrably not that much down so i'm still being entertained.I know fruit machines are programmed and over a period of time you will lose but does that mean no one should play them?
Gonna leave the forum alone now seems some people do not want to here anyones opinions if it disagrees with their own.Good luck to everyone.

Hope you win.     

unknown_username

In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand:

In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand : Yep that would be the one, only sugguested that cos i play that every night so that is that is where my opinion comes from.(no point having an opinion on cash if i don't play it). Not sure the cards should be any different in a cheaper game but do accept that far more calls will be made and people will have a far larger range as they can rebuy. That said should the cards that are dealt in an £11 quid sudden death still be showing quads/FH?straights and flushes with the same regularity(the hands that you actually see).As i have said in previous posts I do not beleive this is unfair as we all face the same cards/chance.I do not beleive the game is rigged or fixed in any ones advantage what so ever.I do however find it amusing(sometimes) unbeleivable sometimes at the amount of times we see hands created that litterally give the players very little choice but to call all in bets. Yet again i am not alone in my opinion many people suspect the hands are not created randomly but are designed to create this situation.I have said i could well be wrong/but you can only form an opinion on what you see.I do not question people who it is all perfect and could not possibly be improved.I do not tell them they are wrong they have the same amount of evidence as i have (none).It's unfortunate that people considerer other peoples opinions worth less than their own.Elsadog wrote"when it wants you out it gets you out" I merely concur with that.Did used to play the velocities and opens but to be honest playing the micro games and having a pop at the RNG seems fun to me.Do not have a shark scope account or whatever it is but bet over the 5 six years i have been playing sky poker i am probrably not that much down so i'm still being entertained.I know fruit machines are programmed and over a period of time you will lose but does that mean no one should play them? Gonna leave the forum alone now seems some people do not want to here anyones opinions if it disagrees with their own.Good luck to everyone. Hope you win.     
Posted by snorky

You actually have a rather respectable sharscope )

harding10

In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand:

In Response to Re: Another farcical "randomly" dealt action hand : Yep that would be the one, only sugguested that cos i play that every night so that is that is where my opinion comes from.(no point having an opinion on cash if i don't play it). Not sure the cards should be any different in a cheaper game but do accept that far more calls will be made and people will have a far larger range as they can rebuy. That said should the cards that are dealt in an £11 quid sudden death still be showing quads/FH?straights and flushes with the same regularity(the hands that you actually see).As i have said in previous posts I do not beleive this is unfair as we all face the same cards/chance.I do not beleive the game is rigged or fixed in any ones advantage what so ever.I do however find it amusing(sometimes) unbeleivable sometimes at the amount of times we see hands created that litterally give the players very little choice but to call all in bets. Yet again i am not alone in my opinion many people suspect the hands are not created randomly but are designed to create this situation.I have said i could well be wrong/but you can only form an opinion on what you see.I do not question people who it is all perfect and could not possibly be improved.I do not tell them they are wrong they have the same amount of evidence as i have (none).It's unfortunate that people considerer other peoples opinions worth less than their own.Elsadog wrote"when it wants you out it gets you out" I merely concur with that.Did used to play the velocities and opens but to be honest playing the micro games and having a pop at the RNG seems fun to me.Do not have a shark scope account or whatever it is but bet over the 5 six years i have been playing sky poker i am probrably not that much down so i'm still being entertained.I know fruit machines are programmed and over a period of time you will lose but does that mean no one should play them? Gonna leave the forum alone now seems some people do not want to here anyones opinions if it disagrees with their own.Good luck to everyone. Hope you win.     
Posted by snorky

I was aiming more in the direction of some helpful advice, but having seen your sharkscope maybe I should be asking you for help.

Played one of the cheap bounty hunters last night, and there were more hands with action there than there are in the deepstack tourneys, mainly because players were calling into raised pots with almost any 2 cards.