"Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......

Tikay10

Apologies for the delay in Posting the first segement. Please note that they are playing 9/10 handed - this is a LOT different from 6 handed.

So, setting the scene......


I was pretty happy with my starting table, Seat 1 was the Sky qualifier Nick ?, Im in Seat 2, Seat 3 Rich Orford, Seat 4 Ben Jackson, Seat 5 a Solid player, Seat 6 a real spewy laggy player, Seat 7 a satellite winner who was pretty solid, seat 8 a player who played for the firm (suprslim??) Seat 9 came in later and was pretty solid.

("suprslim" is a very accomplished Internet player, who will in fact be at Leeds SPT this weekend).

Tikay10

So, off we go, this is Level 1, 25-50, we have a 15,000 starting stack & a 1 hour clock.

In the first level, I didn’t get any cards but raised pre and c bet the missed flop twice to take them both down to maintain my stack at around 15K.

Level 2, I have AJ in the cut off, raise to 200, Orford, Ben and the BB call; flop A83, checked to me and I bet 550, Ben is the only caller. Turn is a 9, checked to me and I bet 1150 which is called – It’s a rainbow board and the River brings a 4x, it’s checked to me again, I decide to check behind but I did think I probably had the best hand – on their backs and he shows AJ for the split pot. I think had I fired a third it wouldn’t be called unless I was beat – bit of a weird hand but I don’t think he folds to any river bet tbh.

I guess the question here is - all other things considered - can we play this A-J any better, so as to win it? Can/should be fire again on the end?

Next segment will be Posted once this part has been dissected.

Once again, many thanks to Dyl for allowing us to do this, he's on a hiding to nothing.

TommyD

In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:

So, off we go, this is Level 1, 25-50, we have a 15,000 starting stack & a 1 hour clock. In the first level, I didn’t get any cards but raised pre and c bet the missed flop twice to take them both down to maintain my stack at around 15K. Level 2, I have AJ in the cut off, raise to 200, Orford, Ben and the BB call; flop A83, checked to me and I bet 550, Ben is the only caller. Turn is a 9, checked to me and I bet 1150 which is called – It’s a rainbow board and the River brings a 4x, it’s checked to me again, I decide to check behind but I did think I probably had the best hand – on their backs and he shows AJ for the split pot. I think had I fired a third it wouldn’t be called unless I was beat – bit of a weird hand but I don’t think he folds to any river bet tbh. I guess the question here is - all other things considered - can we play this A-J any better, so as to win it? Can/should be fire again on the end? Next segment will be Posted once this part has been dissected. Once again, many thanks to Dyl for allowing us to do this, he's on a hiding to nothing.
Posted by Tikay10

I think the first one is pretty standard TBH.  You can't win this pot without turning a hand with decent showdown value into a bluff, check the turn in order to raise on the river etc. which is not a good idea at this early stage.  I'm fine with how you played it.  I would say that I think you can value bet the river here.  You haven't got any LAGGY history right now, any sets/ two pair hands should have bet the river or raised the turn.  I think AK would raise pre.  AQ might be in this players calling or 3betting range so that is our only real worry but I still think this may have played differently earlier in the streets.  You still may get value from AT and if the player is quite tight they may dump the chopping AJ.

RICHORFORD

Oh god. I was directly to your left for the first couple of hours. 

And I know you made some moves on me too. 

I've got a bad feeling I'm going to end up looking a little silly here. 

For once.

unknown_username

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So, off we go, this is Level 1, 25-50, we have a 15,000 starting stack & a 1 hour clock. In the first level, I didn’t get any cards but raised pre and c bet the missed flop twice to take them both down to maintain my stack at around 15K. Level 2, I have AJ in the cut off, raise to 200, Orford, Ben and the BB call; flop A83, checked to me and I bet 550, Ben is the only caller. Turn is a 9, checked to me and I bet 1150 which is called – It’s a rainbow board and the River brings a 4x, it’s checked to me again, I decide to check behind but I did think I probably had the best hand – on their backs and he shows AJ for the split pot. I think had I fired a third it wouldn’t be called unless I was beat – bit of a weird hand but I don’t think he folds to any river bet tbh. I guess the question here is - all other things considered - can we play this A-J any better, so as to win it? Can/should be fire again on the end? Next segment will be Posted once this part has been dissected. Once again, many thanks to Dyl for allowing us to do this, he's on a hiding to nothing.
Posted by Tikay10

I'm probably not experienced enough to answer this in it's entirety but my limited poker skills tell me that -

This early in the tourney I would probably check and lose the pot if i'm behind, check and win the pot if i'm ahead or gratefully accept a split pot, but in the later stages of the tourney I would probably fire a third and hope to take it down.

This early in the tourney I don't like the fact that i'm the one putting all the chips in and villain is flat calling, it wreaks of a trap and I feel like villain is just making me build the pot.

scotty77

In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:

So, off we go, this is Level 1, 25-50, we have a 15,000 starting stack & a 1 hour clock. In the first level, I didn’t get any cards but raised pre and c bet the missed flop twice to take them both down to maintain my stack at around 15K. Level 2, I have AJ in the cut off, raise to 200, Orford, Ben and the BB call; flop A83, checked to me and I bet 550, Ben is the only caller. Turn is a 9, checked to me and I bet 1150 which is called – It’s a rainbow board and the River brings a 4x, it’s checked to me again, I decide to check behind but I did think I probably had the best hand – on their backs and he shows AJ for the split pot. I think had I fired a third it wouldn’t be called unless I was beat – bit of a weird hand but I don’t think he folds to any river bet tbh. I guess the question here is - all other things considered - can we play this A-J any better, so as to win it? Can/should be fire again on the end? Next segment will be Posted once this part has been dissected. Once again, many thanks to Dyl for allowing us to do this, he's on a hiding to nothing.
Posted by Tikay10

I think if you bet the flop/turn for value then you can def bet the river for value.  Hard to see him C/R jamming with any holding that he can have so I wouldn't be wary of that.  Sometimes we'll own ourselves into AQ but there are more Axs that he can pay us off with.

Checking back isn't a massive mistake tho.  I def checked back hands not too dissimilar to this earlish on in that tournie so can see why you would also.

SighKO

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In Response to "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : did he use a dictaphone? did you have to send it to the open university for translation?
Posted by N1CK

No he used his fingers and thumbs like most people do.

Sorry, sorry, don't want to lower the tone, just couldn't resist

Brilliant thread btw

dylan12

This AJ hand was a bit funny in a way, it was against Ben Jackson (Paul Jackson's son) who was a very good player, this was my first real pot v him and had to give him credit for a hand here but I couldn't put him on any specific hand. AK I dismissed because I think, as Tommy says, he 3bets pre here so only worried about AQ really or the fact he called with Ace rag and spiked 2 pairs. A set he aint playing so passive - I think it's quite obvious i am repping the Ace and had he got a set then he pumps it up at some stage knowing im more than likely going to call considering he had been in a lot of pots previous to this hand. In the comfort of my own home I think I value bet the river as Scotty said, this is something I need to think more of within my live game. It's not horrendous to check back but I agree that in a lot of cases I do lose some value by checking behind on rivers like that. 

dylan12

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Oh god. I was directly to your left for the first couple of hours.  And I know you made some moves on me too.  I've got a bad feeling I'm going to end up looking a little silly here.  For once.
Posted by RICHORFORD

Your safe, none of our hands made the report     

I forgot to put in our blind on blind hand and my 3bet hand which you dwelled up a bit for lol Those hands didn't make the report because it was a case of raise pre, called, I c bet, you fold and the 3 bet hand was villain opens, I 3bet, you dwell fold and he folds. What I can tell you though is that I would be very suprised if I was ahead in both those spots and I think you gave my C bet way to much credit in the Blind v Blind hand but that's the power of the bet                  

P.S. you wouldn't look silly anyway, I thought you played fantastic tbh and got value from a lot of hands in marginal spots, few things I would do differently but it's way easier to analyse hands after than it is during the hand itself. Plus, for your own good - stop limping  

dylan12

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In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : I'm probably not experienced enough to answer this in it's entirety but my limited poker skills tell me that - This early in the tourney I would probably check and lose the pot if i'm behind, check and win the pot if i'm ahead or gratefully accept a split pot, but in the later stages of the tourney I would probably fire a third and hope to take it down. This early in the tourney I don't like the fact that i'm the one putting all the chips in and villain is flat calling, it wreaks of a trap and I feel like villain is just making me build the pot.
Posted by POKERTREV

Oops, missed your post Trev, sorry. 

TBH I wasn't gratefull for a split pot, Im greedy I didn't personally mind seeing him check calling at this stage, his thinking is probably the same as mine that were both 99% sure we have the best hand which makes my River check look dubious. I was 100% sure he wasn't trapping because he would have led out on the turn or river or 3bet the turn if he was majorily strong from my hour or so experience with him. He was happy to pot control with marginals and happy to build the pot quickly with monsters as far as I had seen.

I don't think we can analyse this hand when thinking of later stages of the tournament though because that is a differnt dynamic altogether. In the later stages of the tourney, this hand plays completly different. 

SPT

the player who moved into seat 9 was Priyan De Mel, 2 x GUKPT winner

Not the best late entrant for our red shirted fashion icon

Tikay10

So, we move on.

I'll Post both Levels Three AND Four now, as it appears Dyl was pretty much asleep for most of them, & so was not very "busy".

He has also sent me a "GUKPT weekend report" (it includes everything he ate, so it goes on for quite a bit) but let's work though the hands & Levels first. It won't take long. Be good to see others guys doing this at future Events, imo.

Tikay10

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the player who moved into seat 9 was Priyan De Mel, 2 x GUKPT winner Not the best late entrant for our red shirted fashion icon
Posted by SPT

".....fashion icon...."?

You are a bit confused here, Rich - the Thread is about Dylan.

Tikay10

Third level, I get dealt AA in BB, Ben Jackson makes it 300 UTG+1, I make it 850 and he calls, 8 high flop and I c bet and he folds. An orbit after I get AQ on the Button, make it 300 and Ben calls from the BB, AJ8 flop, he checks and I bet, called. Turn K, he checks and I check behind for pot control, River is a 7 and he leads half the pot which I flat – He shows AQ as well for another split sigh lol!!  

A pattern seems to be developing here, & it's that Ben Jackson (Paul "ActionJack" Jackson's son ) again. Ben is an incredibly gifted player, by the way, as is his sister.

In Live Poker, it's very often the case that "meta-game" develops between 2 players, sometimes (not always) accompanied by a bit of needle, but invariably, the 2 "players" seem to battle to be Table Captain, or it goes repeatedly the same "1 on 1", because one of the other think that they can outplay each other, because of perceived weakness. For instance, I will always attack Solack.

Tikay10

Level Four, I have 16.5K after raising and cbetting or raising pre and not getting callers to scoop the blinds so Im ticking along okay. Im not getting any hands still but not panicking whatsoever and am able to use my image through beginning to 3bet a few times pre and getting respect from players. I did play one hand that im unsure about – Seat 7 raises, Button flats and I call in the BB with 77. Flop 986, I check called the flop and checked called the 3 on the turn and folded to the J river. Didn’t like the way I played it at all tbh and was kicking myself a bit here and went down to 14K.

dylan12

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the player who moved into seat 9 was Priyan De Mel, 2 x GUKPT winner Not the best late entrant for our red shirted fashion icon
Posted by SPT

lol, the rubs

Yeah De Mel was there for around an hour but he busted rather quickly - another gentleman came in after him but no idea of his name

MAXALLY

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Level Four, I have 16.5K after raising and cbetting or raising pre and not getting callers to scoop the blinds so Im ticking along okay. Im not getting any hands still but not panicking whatsoever and am able to use my image through beginning to 3bet a few times pre and getting respect from players. I did play one hand that im unsure about – Seat 7 raises, Button flats and I call in the BB with 77. Flop 986, I check called the flop and checked called the 3 on the turn and folded to the J river. Didn’t like the way I played it at all tbh and was kicking myself a bit here and went down to 14stone.
Posted by Tikay10

FYP

Interesting so far Dylan but I would not give away all your secrets if I were you......the masses who will be playing you live next are printing these off as we speak

dylan12

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In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : FYP Interesting so far Dylan but I would not give away all your secrets if I were you......the masses who will be playing you live next are printing these off as we speak
Posted by MAXALLY

lol Alan. 

How would you have played any of those hands yourself Alan? What would you do differently?

Where is TommyD or Scotty77 when you need them to begin the debate  

rats107

In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:

Level Four, I have 16.5K after raising and cbetting or raising pre and not getting callers to scoop the blinds so Im ticking along okay. Im not getting any hands still but not panicking whatsoever and am able to use my image through beginning to 3bet a few times pre and getting respect from players. I did play one hand that im unsure about – Seat 7 raises, Button flats and I call in the BB with 77. Flop 986, I check called the flop and checked called the 3 on the turn and folded to the J river. Didn’t like the way I played it at all tbh and was kicking myself a bit here and went down to 14K.
Posted by Tikay10

seems quiet in here so i'll have a go..... 

 we make up pre, 3 way pot with 77 pretty deep.

On the flop we are commited to call pretty much any  bet, we have a hand with a small amount of showdown value and 8 cards you want to see, also i'm expecting seat 7 to check back a lot of turns.

Once the 3 comes down on the turn, checking is our only real option.

When villain bets turn the only part of his range we're beating is 10 j and air.The 3 turn isn't likely to help our hand but still imo he's going to check back  air here being so early in the tournament, assuming effective stacks are still deep?

if any bluffs are in his range, he bets most rivers that don't help us, leaving us facing a reasonable sized hero call on the river a lot of the time. Also, we you do hit, we're not likely to get paid by many hands. This leads  me towards folding to any bet here oop. We're going to be calling to hit an 8-10 outer in this spot a lot of the time, even if were do have the best hand.    

Once we call the turn, on a jack river we can lead out 3/8- 1/2 pot bet to fold out 10 10, 9 10 and 78  repping 10 j, but more often than not we're going to be called by overpairs, 10 j and quite posibly some of the hands listed  that have us beat. Even in late position he's not showing up with a hand we beat most of the time.

 

TommyD

In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:

Level Four, I have 16.5K after raising and cbetting or raising pre and not getting callers to scoop the blinds so Im ticking along okay. Im not getting any hands still but not panicking whatsoever and am able to use my image through beginning to 3bet a few times pre and getting respect from players. I did play one hand that im unsure about – Seat 7 raises, Button flats and I call in the BB with 77. Flop 986, I check called the flop and checked called the 3 on the turn and folded to the J river. Didn’t like the way I played it at all tbh and was kicking myself a bit here and went down to 14K.
Posted by Tikay10

Sorry to be late Dyl, I was at Nandos.  I'm sure you understand.

By the way you played this hand I think the nerves were hitting you a bit at this stage mainly because you've hit a lovely flop but have played it so passively you had to fold on the end.

Firstly any reads or knowledge about seat 7?  Bar any flop where we spike our set this flop is great for us.  Plus we're still pretty deep.  SCORE!  I'm either B/C here or C/R.  I don't like the C/C unless you intend to attack any turn.  Villain is repping an overpair here of course.  No reads yet so I don't know if he can triple barrel with AX, air etc etc but this early in the tournament I doubt it so yes it's probably an overpair.

The beauty of a check raise here or to play the turn fast is that you will scream SET!  A flat OOP from a player playing fairly snug?  Hello mid pair  I think you can get an overpair to fold here (player dependant of course) but you need to be more aggressive by far.  You're deep enough to get away with but a flesh wound if you're up against a non-believer.

Will continue the debate after your reply but I'll end on a question.  Did you consider trying to get the chips in on the flop?

dylan12

TY Rats and Tommy, food for thought (Tommy and food related excuses are fine by me). 

The background to this hand was that an orbit or 2 before the seat 7 guy had lost a big pot v the Sky qualifier Nick in a cooler hand. Before that he was pretty solid and I could put him on AJ+ - TT+ range when opening normally but after he lost that pot v nick it obviously tilted him slightly and he went from being solid to being quite active and had won a pot v another opponent when barelling 3 streets with A3 on a 589 Q A (Flop may not be 100% correct but it was in that range, turn and river are 100% correct) and rivered the guy who had TT. He built his stack back to about 13/14K but although he had slowed down a bit due to other players acting before him, this was the first unopened pot that had reached him so for me his "solid image" went out of the window for this hand. 

The post tikay posted is slightly wrong because nick was in the hand and he was the SB and not the Button (my fault not his), my initial plan was to check raise tbh because I loved the flop - so I put the plan into action and check, Seat 7 bets and Nick dwells for a bit before flat calling, now this is where my plan went unstuck - my thought process was - "Why the f* k has he just dwelled called for?" I was suspicious tbh and thought he may have setted up here so go for the conservative check...this leads me on to your question Tommy...did I consider getting the chips in on the flop? Yes is the honest answer, but that lasted for less than a second, I felt I was way to deep to get it in here at this stage and probably get 1 caller if not 2!! If Nick doesn't flat call (which confused the life out of me, and still does because he wouldn't do that without a hand. This is where i out thought myself I think and gave him way to much credit in this spot because he folds to a turn bet. 

When checking the turn I did think Seat7 would check back tbh but alas he didn't, I falt call the turn without thinking it through properly but I did honestly think at this stage that I may actually have the best hand because he didn't look that comfortable tbh - would a check raise here have worked, what am I repping? I flat with the full intention of check calling the river, well that was until he over bet the pot on the river and this is where I lost my bottle and went against my own judgement, this is something I never do tbh but I was really pis sed by this point in how I was playing the hand and that is something very unusual for me as well. 

Just to round up Tommy's observation that it may be partly down to nerves - I can 100% state that I was very comfortable on the table and only 1 player gave me great trouble and nerves were non exsistant tbh. 

So that is a bit of the background to the hand and the play leading up to it. 

TommyD

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TY Rats and Tommy, food for thought (Tommy and food related excuses are fine by me).  The background to this hand was that an orbit or 2 before the seat 7 guy had lost a big pot v the Sky qualifier Nick in a cooler hand. Before that he was pretty solid and I could put him on AJ+ - TT+ range when opening normally but after he lost that pot v nick it obviously tilted him slightly and he went from being solid to being quite active and had won a pot v another opponent when barelling 3 streets with A3 on a 589 Q A (Flop may not be 100% correct but it was in that range, turn and river are 100% correct) and rivered the guy who had TT. He built his stack back to about 13/14K but although he had slowed down a bit due to other players acting before him, this was the first unopened pot that had reached him so for me his "solid image" went out of the window for this hand.  The post tikay posted is slightly wrong because nick was in the hand and he was the SB and not the Button (my fault not his), my initial plan was to check raise tbh because I loved the flop - so I put the plan into action and check, Seat 7 bets and Nick dwells for a bit before flat calling, now this is where my plan went unstuck - my thought process was - "Why the f* k has he just dwelled called for?" I was suspicious tbh and thought he may have setted up here so go for the conservative check...this leads me on to your question Tommy...did I consider getting the chips in on the flop? Yes is the honest answer, but that lasted for less than a second, I felt I was way to deep to get it in here at this stage and probably get 1 caller if not 2!! If Nick doesn't flat call (which confused the life out of me, and still does because he wouldn't do that without a hand. This is where i out thought myself I think and gave him way to much credit in this spot because he folds to a turn bet.  When checking the turn I did think Seat7 would check back tbh but alas he didn't, I falt call the turn without thinking it through properly but I did honestly think at this stage that I may actually have the best hand because he didn't look that comfortable tbh - would a check raise here have worked, what am I repping? I flat with the full intention of check calling the river, well that was until he over bet the pot on the river and this is where I lost my bottle and went against my own judgement, this is something I never do tbh but I was really pis sed by this point in how I was playing the hand and that is something very unusual for me as well.  Just to round up Tommy's observation that it may be partly down to nerves - I can 100% state that I was very comfortable on the table and only 1 player gave me great trouble and nerves were non exsistant tbh.  So that is a bit of the background to the hand and the play leading up to it. 
Posted by dylan12

Ok let's just get the cliffs of the hand so we can have a good look at it (this info obviously changes things).

Preflop:  Hero dealt 77

Seat 7 raises

SB calls

Hero(BB) calls

Flop:  689

SB Check

Hero Check

7 bet

sb Call

Hero call

Turn: 3

Sb Check

Hero Check

7 Bet

SB Fold?

Hero Call

River:  J

Hero Check

7 Bet (over-bets pot)

Hero Fold

Is the above all correct Dyl?  BTW, I'm still looking to check raise but I would wouldn't I

With reads this gets more interesting.  His range gets so polarised as we go through the streets.  Is he betting all three streets with an overpair on this straighty board against someone playing snug?  Maybe but I'm not as sure now, starting to think you might have had some showdown here but it's always nasty to the over-bet.  Going to sleep on it I think, will get back to you tomorrow on this and the other two.

dylan12

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In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : Ok let's just get the cliffs of the hand so we can have a good look at it (this info obviously changes things). Preflop:  Hero dealt 77 Seat 7 raises SB calls Hero(BB) calls Flop:  689 SB Check Hero Check 7 bet sb Call Hero call Turn: 3 Sb Check Hero Check 7 Bet SB Fold? Hero Call River:  J Hero Check 7 Bet (over-bets pot) Hero Fold Is the above all correct Dyl?  BTW, I'm still looking to check raise but I would wouldn't I With reads this gets more interesting.  His range gets so polarised as we go through the streets.  Is he betting all three streets with an overpair on this straighty board against someone playing snug?  Maybe but I'm not as sure now, starting to think you might have had some showdown here but it's always nasty to the over-bet.  Going to sleep on it I think, will get back to you tomorrow on this and the other two.
Posted by TommyD

Yes, all correct except that the turn was a 3 and not a 5 (if it was a 5 we would not be having this convo lol)

Yes the SB folds on the turn.

Im off as well to bed m8, lets pick this up tomorrow and ty  

TommyD

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In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : Yes, all correct except that the turn was a 3 and not a 5 (if it was a 5 we would not be having this convo lol) Yes the SB folds on the turn. Im off as well to bed m8, lets pick this up tomorrow and ty  
Posted by dylan12

Darn it, thought I got my ninja edit through....

jakally

In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:

Level Four, I have 16.5K after raising and cbetting or raising pre and not getting callers to scoop the blinds so Im ticking along okay. Im not getting any hands still but not panicking whatsoever and am able to use my image through beginning to 3bet a few times pre and getting respect from players. I did play one hand that im unsure about – Seat 7 raises, Button flats and I call in the BB with 77. Flop 986, I check called the flop and checked called the 3 on the turn and folded to the J river. Didn’t like the way I played it at all tbh and was kicking myself a bit here and went down to 14K.
Posted by Tikay10

Stack sizes are pretty important (and I don't know what they are) but once the SB flats I think a CR is a solid play. Given your image, and the strength of your move, your opponents probably aren't going tto get tricky in this spot.

Seat 7 has both your raise and the SB's flat to worry about, and the SB is probably going to play pretty honestly (raise sets, call some 1 pair + draw hands, and fold a lot of the time).

If you CR you've got to be prepared to fire the turn to get rid of the stubborn 1 pr callers.

Problem with Check calling 2 streets is that it looks like the hand you've actually got, and is tough to get paid if you hit, particularly OOP.

dylan12

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In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : Stack sizes are pretty important (and I don't know what they are) but once the SB flats I think a CR is a solid play. Given your image, and the strength of your move, your opponents probably aren't going tto get tricky in this spot. Seat 7 has both your raise and the SB's flat to worry about, and the SB is probably going to play pretty honestly (raise sets, call some 1 pair + draw hands, and fold a lot of the time). If you CR you've got to be prepared to fire the turn to get rid of the stubborn 1 pr callers. Problem with Check calling 2 streets is that it looks like the hand you've actually got, and is tough to get paid if you hit, particularly OOP.
Posted by jakally

Stack sizes were - me 16.5K, Seat 7 13/14/K and SB had 34/35K. 

The way you describe what I should have done is exactly what I planned to do and would do in 99% of cases. 

Your a live specialist, do you think I was over complicating things here in terms of over thinking what the others had and not concentrating enough on my own hand and letting them dictate the action? 

TommyD

Sorry, gone longer than I intended, busy weekend.

Dealing with the level 3 hands quickly:

The AA is standard, WP.  Wouldn't play it any other way IMO.

The AQ hand I raise the flop and fire the turn if needed.  You had the lead pre and a donk lead is either extreme strength (which we'll find out about pretty soon) or a marginal looking for info.  Give him some info, tell him you're massive.  As it ran out the K on the turn would be a great card for you if raised the flop.  As soon as you go into check/call mode on the flop you probably can't play it any other way TBH.

TommyD

The 77 hand:

Really struggling to get into the villain's head here.  The way the board runs out what is he representing on the river?  JJ?  Flopped set?  This smells like a spot where I hero call and they turn over KJoff...

How active was seat 7?  Had you seen him fire all of the bullets before?

Tikay10

I have been offline all weekend, since Thursday really, so it's good to see this is still chugging along. I'll add some more as soon as this "segment" has run it's course.

It's GREAT thread, if I may say so.

dylan12

In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:

Sorry, gone longer than I intended, busy weekend. Dealing with the level 3 hands quickly: The AA is standard, WP.  Wouldn't play it any other way IMO. The AQ hand I raise the flop and fire the turn if needed.  You had the lead pre and a donk lead is either extreme strength (which we'll find out about pretty soon) or a marginal looking for info.  Give him some info, tell him you're massive.  As it ran out the K on the turn would be a great card for you if raised the flop.  As soon as you go into check/call mode on the flop you probably can't play it any other way TBH.
Posted by TommyD

Tommy can you look through the AQ hand again please - either you have read it wrong or I have read your post wrong (as in he never donk lead until the river m8)