"Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......

dylan12

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The 77 hand: Really struggling to get into the villain's head here.  The way the board runs out what is he representing on the river?  JJ?  Flopped set?  This smells like a spot where I hero call and they turn over KJoff... How active was seat 7?  Had you seen him fire all of the bullets before?
Posted by TommyD

For the life of me I stil reckon I was good here - As said previously I reckon he was still tilting slightly and was in a rush to get the stack he lost back asap. Before then he had been pretty solid and never fired 3 bullets until he went into slight tilt mode and he had previously fired 3 bullets and got lucky on the river when he made top pair. 

I truely regret not hero calling here tbh. I don't reckon he had a set but an op is plausable but I still reckon I was good. It was the over size of his river bet which threw me, but tbf I played it bad throughout. If I go with my read, I call here v him at this precise time, get it wrong and it is a costly mistake though therefore that may have impaired my judgement. It's funny how we can look at the hand in isolation because it looks so different than when I actually played it - and as some have told me before - I do have an over tendancy to over think things in certain spots and I think this was one of these times tbh. 

TommyD

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In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : Tommy can you look through the AQ hand again please - either you have read it wrong or I have read your post wrong (as in he never donk lead until the river m8) 
Posted by dylan12

Sorry dude, not sure how I misread that,  Multi-tasking for the loss.

OK, correction, hand is pretty standard if conservative.  A bet on the turn may take it down but you're essentially turning your hand into a bluff.  Maybe V-Bet river but not beating a heap.

dylan12

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I have been offline all weekend, since Thursday really, so it's good to see this is still chugging along. I'll add some more as soon as this "segment" has run it's course. It's GREAT thread, if I may say so.
Posted by Tikay10

Yeah, the timing was not great considering the Leeds SPT but im glad that we are doing it, I have received some constructive emails from players who didn't want to post on the thread - all is good. 

P.S. PLZ delete the T6ss hand - I have nightmares over that still lol

dylan12

In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:

In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : Sorry dude, not sure how I misread that,  Multi-tasking for the loss. OK, correction, hand is pretty standard if conservative.  A bet on the turn may take it down but you're essentially turning your hand into a bluff.  Maybe V-Bet river but not beating a heap.
Posted by TommyD

LOL!! Phew, im sane again  

To answer this, Im 100% that a bet does not take it down on the flop (He was very good but a fold button he rarely had - he would 3bet rather first before even contemplating a fold imo). I do V-Bet the river if he doesn't lead because if he checks for the 3rd time I know im good. I take it as played you flat the river lead m8? As a more laggy player m8, is there any justification in 3betting the river as played? (I don't think I could but wonder what you would do). 

TommyD

In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:

In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : LOL!! Phew, im sane again   To answer this, Im 100% that a bet does not take it down on the flop (He was very good but a fold button he rarely had - he would 3bet rather first before even contemplating a fold imo). I do V-Bet the river if he doesn't lead because if he checks for the 3rd time I know im good. I take it as played you flat the river lead m8? As a more laggy player m8, is there any justification in 3betting the river as played? (I don't think I could but wonder what you would do). 
Posted by dylan12

No reason to raise on the river as played mate IMO all things considered.  He could have easily had the rivered straight with T9.  He's betting for thin value against a QJ, JT kind of hand.  Flat is standard.  I know you've checked the turn for pot control, was he likely to raise wide here if you had bet?

dylan12

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In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : No reason to raise on the river as played mate IMO all things considered.  He could have easily had the rivered straight with T9.  He's betting for thin value against a QJ, JT kind of hand.  Flat is standard.  I know you've checked the turn for pot control, was he likely to raise wide here if you had bet?
Posted by TommyD

I never thought about raising the river m8, just wondered what you would have done, glad to see you aint to laggy then hehe

He had 3bet some people in pots on turn and river (he had not done this to me) but tbf he had the goods each time which helped lol Later on he did check raise a couple of guys on the river - both went to showdown, one was a missed str8 draw and the other the had like 3rd nutz or something to scoop. 

I don't think he raises wide here v me tbh at this stage especially with the hand he had due to it having good show down value. I had fired 2 barrels v him a few times now so it was nice to check behind v him and try and get paid off by Ax worse than mine - my check on turn 100% leads to him calling a V-Bet on the river (had he checked called) with worse than AQ so I don't hate my check to him in particular on the turn.