R,N.G. good or bad

AMYBR · June 2011

I'm not that far from you, there's plenty of live off the books games.

I live down the 1079 towards york.

Inbox me if your interested

baggs · June 2011

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Yeh you should be able to say what you feel without worrying about how people will take it. You can have an argument about something, once it's over, settled or not, you move on and get on with it. When it comes to poker, you gotta be honest with people if you wanna help them. The analysis on the show about some of the play is really toned down, for obvious reasons. If they were giving brutally honest analysis, people would be offended and maybe not play anymore. Posting volunarily on an open forum means you put yourself up for critisism, as people have the right to reply as they see fit, without anything holding them back. Why do I try to help people? Simply because helping other people in turn helps myself. I wish someone better than me would take my game, rip it completely to shreds, tell me how bad I am, and how I could get better. But it would probably cost me alot of money for their service. The first 2 weeks of May were hell for me on the tables. I took 2 hours time out to play nl4 and write a strategy post for some of my "virtual poker m8s" who had been struggling at that level. I went right back to basics. Since I did that, I've had the best fortnight of my year so far. Talking about poker, and poker related things improves me as a player. I was a break even player before I found sky 18 months ago,m and I had never posted on or read a forum in my life. 18 months and 8 thousand forum posts later, I'm 10 times the player I was, crushing the games I play in, and making really good money out of something I enjoy. ......

If you are going to big yourself up at least be consistent. Not 10 days you ago your story was "
Over a very small sample (18 months) I've made a very mediocre wage playing poker. I'm not happy making this much for the rest of my life, obv, but the idea is to improve"

Hilarious

DOHHHHHHH · June 2011

lol ur trying hard bag head aintchya.

Good money is good money, ie my net profit is ALOT of money.

I wasn't talking in terms of a wage/job whatever. Stop taking my comments out of context please.

baggs · June 2011

Stop digging

CrazyBen23 · June 2011

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Th ey n e ed to build a casino in Donny
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

+1!!!!

The g-casino is sheff is gooood, the two times ive been the cash games have run all night tho, get the 5am train back which is what i did xD can like play a tournment at 8 then go on cash after till late!

DOHHHHHHH · June 2011

I dunno it's a long slog till 5am!!!

CrazyBen23 · June 2011

haha old man! I heard they were gunna build a casino where odeon used to be, although i heard that along time ago lol

DOHHHHHHH · June 2011

Baghead......

Add 18 months of mediocre wages up.

Pretty sure you will get a very significant/good amount of money, tax three.

baggs · June 2011

Dunce, I think you'll find its less than a slightly above mediocre salary. Not really worth bragging about

DOHHHHHHH · June 2011

zzz

tallboy · June 2011

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In Response to Re: R,N.G. good or bad : I have truly never laughed so hard... you still do. Your ego is so far in advance of your skill quite frankly its a bit embarassing
Posted by baggs

Have you taken money off this guy jj he seems very bitter.

drumahai05 · June 2011

RIGHT Ive just started a online poker site called dreamland. the first order of call

1 staff

2 customers no problem with how the game is growing in the world

3 don't forget a deck of cards.

So you go on ebay and half a dozen IT firms beat a path to your door with rng packages to make your eyes water, now depending how rich you are you can have a pack that plays abc dead cheap that one, or you can go for gold, and go for a pack that you can pick and mix. just like Woolworth. the salesman explains whichever one you choice it will satisfy the rng regulations. the way you use the deck is up to you. great i will invest in the one with nobs on said mr daly. i will call him arthur.

Arthurs as a meeting with his department heads ,after the site as been running and congratulates them on a great start, but is a wee bit concerned that sales are not meeting budget. he tells them sort it or no x-mas box.sales go to the IT and cry help IT being the nerds they are (sorry dave i don't mean you honest) agree to help our IT nerd comes back with the answer he tells the salesman look its easy we bought the bees knees software we can pick and mix the hands as long as we don't allocate them to a individual its legal. the salesman says how does that help to get new players to stay?. well says the IT man or women, the regulation says we must use a rng hand at all times. BUT the the regs don't say we cannot use slot machine regs when allocating seats. we can give all new players a higher % of possible winning hands which will make them happy. as time goes on we just reduce it easy. but what about the others said the salesman. oh they should be alright they can still win if they go on the right hands. what does arthur think. no need to tell him he's busy down the market. if this works i will buy you a nice drink at xmass

Now remember this is just a debate and none of the above relates to any company or individual

lets once and for all decide are rng,s good or bad .

can they be manipulated

if they can what can we and honest sites do to combat the mistrust

my suggestion is a small group of respected players be invited on a tour of the site and allowed to see for themselves how it works?.

unknown_username · June 2011

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RIGHT Ive just started a online poker site called dreamland. the first order of call 1 staff 2 customers no problem with how the game is growing in the world 3 don't forget a deck of cards. So you go on ebay and half a dozen IT firms beat a path to your door with rng packages to make your eyes water, now depending how rich you are you can have a pack that plays abc dead cheap that one, or you can go for gold, and go for a pack that you can pick and mix. just like Woolworth. the salesman explains whichever one you choice it will satisfy the rng regulations. the way you use the deck is up to you. great i will invest in the one with nobs on said mr daly. i will call him arthur. Arthurs as a meeting with his department heads ,after the site as been running and congratulates them on a great start, but is a wee bit concerned that sales are not meeting budget. he tells them sort it or no x-mas box.sales go to the IT and cry help IT being the nerds they are (sorry dave i don't mean you honest) agree to help our IT nerd comes back with the answer he tells the salesman look its easy we bought the bees knees software we can pick and mix the hands as long as we don't allocate them to a individual its legal. the salesman says how does that help to get new players to stay?. well says the IT man or women, the regulation says we must use a rng hand at all times. BUT the the regs don't say we cannot use slot machine regs when allocating seats. we can give all new players a higher % of possible winning hands which will make them happy. as time goes on we just reduce it easy. but what about the others said the salesman. oh they should be alright they can still win if they go on the right hands. what does arthur think. no need to tell him he's busy down the market. if this works i will buy you a nice drink at xmass Now remember this is just a debate and none of the above relates to any company or individual lets once and for all decide are rng,s good or bad . can they be manipulated if they can what can we and honest sites do to combat the mistrust my suggestion is a small group of respected players be invited on a tour of the site and allowed to see for themselves how it works?.
Posted by drumahai05

LOL

Discopig · June 2011

100, 1000, million, trillion, gazillion % AGREE with this thread.

What he said about limping with a weak ace and watching it turn into something huge on the flop is just absolutely spot on. and I don't mind paying 10p out of £20 to see if it does hit, because more often than not, it does.

SHANXTA · June 2011

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Yeh I do say I havent played live, maybe I shouldn't as I have, but I haven't really...... :P Some of the players used to run a money game after..... They used to ask if "anyone wanted to play a cash game" Only their version of a "cash game" is a sng with a buy in - Which tilted the sh 1t outta me..... I played a proper cash game 1 Sunday afternoon in a pub, we started at 1, it was a 10/20p game, I bought in for 20 quid, and was up to 150 by 6pm. By 9pm I'd done the lot, and spent 40 quid on ale in the process! haha. Drink much faster in pubs, drunken online poker is alot safer --------------------- I wouldn't mind playing som e live poker, but I live in Doncaster, and the nearest casino/cardroom is a 35 min drive away in Sheffield. Theres no way I could go out and "have fun" playing poker without having a few beers, which means I can't drive to the game. I wouldn't mind getting the train, but they stop running at home time. I would never play a live tourny, but would give the cash games a good crack. Th ey n e ed to build a casino in Donny
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

eeerrrrrrr... get a taxi ya tight g!t

MP33 · June 2011

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[. Th ey n e ed to build a casino in Donny

Posted by DOHHHHHHH

They also need to build one in Preston - Nearest one is blackpool and when you add up the cost of taxis (about £50 + (one way ) depending on time of day its just not worth it, unless theres a few of you to split the cost

For this reason a Casino in Preston would make a fortune (if theres any entrepeneurs out there reading)

As for the RNG - I wasn,t even aware there were different ones - Surely it would be better to have one RNG used by all sites and then no-one could complain about sites being fixed and would be a lot easier to regulate

Are you saying that different RNG,s work in a different ways Drum?

drumahai05 · June 2011

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In Response to Re: R,N.G. good or bad : [. Th ey n e ed to build a casino in Donny Posted by DOHHHHHHH

They also need to build one in Preston - Nearest one is blackpool and when you add up the cost of taxis (about £50 + (one way ) depending on time of day its just not worth it, unless theres a few of you to split the cost For this reason a Casino in Preston would make a fortune (if theres any entrepeneurs out there reading) As for the RNG - I wasn,t even aware there were different ones - Surely it would be better to have one RNG used by all sites and then no-one could complain about sites being fixed and would be a lot easier to regulate Are you saying that different RNG,s work in a different ways Drum?
Posted by MP33
Hi mp good question. every hand is created using a rng millions of them. online poker sites can then purchase a software package of various types for their site. some with more control then others, its my theory that some sites not all cherrypick the hands to suit their needs. but within the regulations. so hand on heart they can say we do not dictate who wins. all the hands are created using a rng.which is true,basically the game is being choreographed. for example at the start, just before the break, and on the bubble.is were you will see the worst bad beats. they will say that's poker, and you will accept it as such most of the time.this may sound daft as a theory but i have tryed for some time now to find a code of practice for online poker and nobody will explain them. you get the same answer what we use is legal we use a rng. so that brings you back to my question good or bad. what i am trying to say badly is are they using slot machine regulations, if they are they can treat a player like a slot machine on a %win rate. you can still win if you play the right hands but the chance is you will get busted somewhere along the line ie KK into AA at the start, the break or the bubble.

all i ask is that sites prove to their players that the hands being dealt are totally random and are not cherrypicked to manage the game

i hope this goes some way to explain my views, feel free to criticize that's what this debate is all about cheers

DOHHHHHHH · June 2011

if you play the right hands but the chance is you will get busted somewhere along the line ie KK into AA at the start, the break or the bubble. all i ask is that sites prove to their players that the hands being dealt are totally random and are not cherrypicked to manage the game i hope this goes some way to explain my views, feel free to criticize that's what this debate is all about cheers Posted by drumahai05

I assume you're talking about tourny poker?

Of course when you enter a tournament there is a high chance you will bust it due to a bad beat or a cooler situation.

How else are you going to go from 500 players to a winner?

499 have to get knocked out somehow, it's the same in live tournys!

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