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Sky Satellies - should unregistering be allowed?
Most repected sites when you SAT into tornos- you can unregister from the torno and gain the entry fee or have torno money! Correct!!
On sky a £7 sat where 1 in 5 win a torno into a £33 torno is fair. as 7x 5 is more or less the buy in.
So last night 55 paid £7, i qualified and have unregistered as i will play more sats today as its easy money!!
So i found out after unregistered i am not entilted to any money or torno dollars back!!
Why??
Email explaination from Sky...
We have noticed that you won entry into this tournament. Unregistering would simply remove you from the tournament. The prize won gained you entry into the tournament and as the seat has no monetary value, you would not receive funds to your account. So no monetary value... so 55 x people paid £7, meaning 1 in 5 people who qualify win £33. So unregistering you infact let sky take the money from you!!
and i get offered a BH sat in return!! no thank you i want my £33 in cahs or torno dollars or back in the tornoment!
This does not make sense to me as making money from Sats is a popular thing to do!!
I have had no email back from Sky so i am requesting thoughts on this or a respnse from Sky!
Thanks
On sky a £7 sat where 1 in 5 win a torno into a £33 torno is fair. as 7x 5 is more or less the buy in.
So last night 55 paid £7, i qualified and have unregistered as i will play more sats today as its easy money!!
So i found out after unregistered i am not entilted to any money or torno dollars back!!
Why??
Email explaination from Sky...
We have noticed that you won entry into this tournament. Unregistering would simply remove you from the tournament. The prize won gained you entry into the tournament and as the seat has no monetary value, you would not receive funds to your account. So no monetary value... so 55 x people paid £7, meaning 1 in 5 people who qualify win £33. So unregistering you infact let sky take the money from you!!
and i get offered a BH sat in return!! no thank you i want my £33 in cahs or torno dollars or back in the tornoment!
This does not make sense to me as making money from Sats is a popular thing to do!!
I have had no email back from Sky so i am requesting thoughts on this or a respnse from Sky!
Thanks
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This is not a "free entry"
55 people paid £7 = £385
11 win torno entry at £33 each = £363
In sats you pay to win the torno prize which is £33 which is the 5 buy ins! So to unregsiter and have it taken off you is a joke.
This needs to change surely every other poker client i know gives you torno dollars back!
It's a sat to gain free entry to a tourny, it clearly states this and is therefore designed to stop people doing what you're wanting to do.
If you want to win easy money then play some DYM games.
Satellites are £6.60+60p rake, so £7.20 total.
The tournament you're satelliting into is £30+£3 rake - £33 total.
1 in 5 of the satellite players earn a seat.
5 x £6.60 = £33.
Trying to include the rake amount in the prize pool (5 lots of 60p) is incorrect.
As for unregistering for tournaments, the satellites are designed to allow people on lower bankrolls to play bigger tournaments, not for those who want to satellite and then unreg and take the money. Why not? Simply put, it would result in a risk of less people playing the main event (the £12k Bounty Hunter in this instance) and that would mean the Guarantee could fall. Not ideal.
As an aside, the scheme you're thinking of where you unreg from a tourney to earn 'Tourney £' or T$ as it's known on other sites can sometimes see you lose out on the 'exchange rate'. Robbery?
What im getting at is SATs have a style of play which is profitable why most sites you can unreg! it is not free entry into a torn i refuse to agree with that.
you have place higher than 4 out of 5 people so you have cashed!
Acid man how is this designed to stop people what im doing??
Its a fair deal!
Its a suggestion to change this so why are you against it???
Hopefully my post covers the reason why Sky Poker doesn't offer unregistrations at the moment. Could it come up in the future? Possibly but in my personal opinion I'd like to think Sky will always try to maintain the guarantees than accomodate satellite grinders to the possible detriment of their flagship MTTs. That's very much my opinion and not an offical line, for what it's worth.
One thing they might consider is a type of MTT where it auto settles once you're down to 10%/20% of the field. If that's what you're after then proposing that rather than suggesting Sky is taking money away from lower rolled players might prove a bit more successful.
Either way, good luck at the tables and hopefully we'll see you in some of the bigger tournaments on Sky in the near future.
"Robbery" Catchy headlines catch your eye! and i got a response. thanks i have been entered back into the torno now. thanks Skypokes
Though i do think it needs lucking at i think more people would play them if you could do that as tornos on here are limited as it is
A sat is very similar style of play to a dym imo.
Tbh i'm surprised other sites still let people do what you're wanting to do.
Imo a sat is designed as Dave has already mentioned. It gives the chance for lower bankrolled players a chance to compete in much higher buyin tournaments that they would otherwise not be able to play in.
Some players who end up bubbling these will be gutted at missing out on the chance to play in the tournament and yet you just want to win a seat and then cash the entry fee.
think that's totally out of order m8 Acidman replied in a way he thought fit and i agree totally that the sats are designed for the lower bankroll players and I include myself in this to reach events not otherwise possible, and for what it's worth he is a very decent bloke and also a good player in his own right.
Nice mature attitude you have there.
I rephrase then!
Without abusing the suckup!
dym 6 / 10 seat tables half pay out! SATs bigger fields weaker fields!!
= very profitable!!
Plus more people would register if could get torno pounds back as sky limited on tornos throught the day as it is!!
Increases traffic for one
Others - if you've quoted Richman's offending post in one of your replies, I'd appreciate it if you took the time to delete it from the post.
Differing viewpoints are fine, but let's keep it polite folks.
Unreg giving torno cash would increase your sites numbers this should be pushed it benefits all except for people who thing "we dont do it cause it stops people like you"! (Comment: no names mentioned! :P)
Its easy!
More people in SATS - better for all!
More places awarded for qualifying - better for the not so talented players!
More ways to win money - better for the grinders and mtt'rs!
More traffic - better for sky and all!!
How can you disagree with that!!
Ty for stating that sky doesnt have a T$ convert option i wasnt aware of that maybe i should post about it
Check that out your first line i can read
i dont see what the problem is he has paid for it so its not a free entry? Sats dont just run so a tourney can meet a gurantee well they shouldn't do they are to help those with a lower bankroll and if someone would prefer the money or tourney tickets why not?
I agree Satelites are soft and different to DYM's
Yes good man! cmon Sky lets have some response to sort this out!!
However as i stated before it would be good for the site!
It doesnt deprive people with smaller bankrolls - if the fields were bigger it would give them more chance to qualify!
fwiw I wouldn't mind a change to a T£ option but am not fussed either way.
Sky are usually more than happy to help with changing the BI to the equivalent tournie the next day/week btw.
but yh if ur a sateliitle pro grinder than stick to the sites that have that option readily available.
good luck sir
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