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Ugh im so tilted did i play this right? i put on flush draw so thought i would shove and not give the odds? early on in sat 50 runners 5 get seats...
| FLATCAPBIL | Small blind | 10.00 | 10.00 | 1870.00 | |
| offshoot | Big blind | 20.00 | 30.00 | 1670.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| rosjim1 | Fold | ||||
| MAZ2006 | Fold | ||||
| YOUNG_GUN | Raise | 60.00 | 90.00 | 1940.00 | |
| beaneh | Fold | ||||
| FLATCAPBIL | Fold | ||||
| offshoot | Call | 40.00 | 130.00 | 1630.00 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| offshoot | Check | ||||
| YOUNG_GUN | Bet | 95.00 | 225.00 | 1845.00 | |
| offshoot | Raise | 260.00 | 485.00 | 1370.00 | |
| YOUNG_GUN | All-in | 1845.00 | 2330.00 | 0.00 | |
| offshoot | All-in | 1370.00 | 3700.00 | 0.00 | |
| YOUNG_GUN | Unmatched bet | 310.00 | 3390.00 | 310.00 | |
| offshoot | Show |
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| YOUNG_GUN | Show |
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| Turn | |||||
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| River | |||||
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| offshoot | Win | Flush to the Ace | 3390.00 | 3390.00 | |
Comments
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt990 games 0.005 secs 198,000 games/secBoard: Ks 4s 7hDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 51.111% 51.11% 00.00% 506 0.00 { KcJs }Hand 1: 48.889% 48.89% 00.00% 484 0.00 { As7s }
i'd call the raise on the flop then jam the turn if it was a blank
ul tho m8
Ul btw bud.
P.S. I now await offshoot comming and saying he will call with worse lol.
Ul YG
In a satellite i like to keep pots v small early.
I would never rejam like you did, because, unless he has that precise hand (nfd with 1 pair) you are only getting called if you are crushed. I really dont think he would ever be stone cold bluffing here, he must have a fd, or a set usually.
I think i would flat the flop and if he leads the turn, i would fold. If he checks a non spade turn, i would stick a sizeable bet in and prob tid.
But as grantorino says, it may be just advisable to fold the flop vs a very strong opponant
yours is dependent on how often you think offshoot bluffs. I would think his value raising range (inc semibluffs) has you beat, unless there is some strange dynamic
2x 7 + 3x A + 9x spades = 14 outs.
14*4 = 56%
so he called with better :P
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt990 games 0.005 secs 198,000 games/secBoard: Ks 4s 7hDead:equity win tie pots won pots tiedHand 0: 51.111% 51.11% 00.00% 506 0.00 { KcJs }Hand 1: 48.889% 48.89% 00.00% 484 0.00 { As7s }
Kc Js v As 7s on Ks 7h 4s flop.
KJ - 51.4
A7 - 48.6
Yeap ur right, however this is still effectivley AK v QQ imo.
position on Big blind flop K47 two spades 130 pot ck you lead 95/>70 is fine
ck raise 260 8.25BB to flat in position />open shove 68.5BB Effective stacks don't like
Would flat in position pot control re evaluate on turn looking to get to showdown cheaply
His call is standard and your jam is hoping he has a flush draw
Your jam is only getting called by a better hand or a flush draw, agree ?
I don't like the jam, maybe call and if no spade on turn then go for it
I reckon he stacks of Ax suited here so i think its ok, not fantastic obviously
I also dont mind shoving blank turn but what happens if Ace comes etc i prefer shove to put someone to a decision
Just saying the jam is only folding out worse hands, your only getting called by better hands or a flush draw. But is this not the way to go when there is FD on board ?
Debatable, but I am sure you could find the fold this deep if a spade or ace hits
Also is there a great need to go to war so early ?
If you put him on FD then hey ho, all is good
But you gotta remember on the positive side your only 50/50 at best
Everything else in his calling range is crushing you
Would you rarther go in further ahead this early ?
I've just stoved it against this range, all possible holdings IMO;
AKo, KQo, KJo, KTo, AJss to A2ss, QTss, suited connecting spades from QJss to 45ss. (I've taken these hands out of his range on the assumption he would 3-bet pre-flop; AKss, AQss, KQss, AA, KK)
Against this range your equity drops to 41.7%.
Against a tighter range (AJss to A2ss, KTss, KQo, KJo, 44 and 77) you have 33.0%.
but also on the same note my hands not exactly been played face up and i think will fold out marginal hands possibly other kings?? i would make the same play if i had 2 pair/ set/ AK so he can only really call with the hand he has unless he has one of these imo. I think offshoot's play is pretty standard really but obviously there's 3 options for me fold if i think im behind, shove to take down majority of the time or get racing, or call and shove blank turn(best option in hindsight). That said vs offy who clearly will have an edge with me im happy to take a race vs flush draw, also if i get the double up then it allows me to be more aggro and will give me a better chance to finish in the top 5
nfd is in ok shape any fd with 7s is in ok shape,oesd in ok shape, sets crush you. AK crushes you (doubt he flats pre)KQ crushes you( doubt he c/r with KQ, also he may 3bet pre but I wouldnt be so sure). He is never raise/folding any K there and I doubt he ever raises KT or worse. You never ever get him to fold any hand you want him to fold after this action, you have to be pretty sure he has an absolute pile of draws and maybe sometimes flats sets to make shoving good here imo
Yeh he never flats pre with AK,AQ
I put him on nut flush draw, just instinct and the way the betting has gone really. no betting tells or anything like that
I think you can easily get into levelling yourself here. Unless you have good specific reads on offshoot I think its a pretty clear fold and move on