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BEWARE THE CHEATS

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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS:
    It DID increase his chances of winning the pot - probably not significantly but it did increase them.
    Posted by MereNovice
    ok well thats why i love poker.  just did some quick calcs on various random hands and have found that yeah they tend to increase the chance by a fraction of a percentage.

    now im gonna try and find out why that is because i can't figure it out myself, in fact IMO it should decrease the chance......

    maybe im just thick
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  • ChhasChhas
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS:
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS : my little girl got knocked of her bike and been at hospital for a while thanx for asking though
    Posted by wemjay
    Wow!! on the bubble in a sat for the primo and your daughter hurt in the dame day. Devastating! Do your friends call ya Lucky?
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  • ChhasChhas
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS:
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS : ok well thats why i love poker.  just did some quick calcs on various random hands and have found that yeah they tend to increase the chance by a fraction of a percentage. now im gonna try and find out why that is because i can't figure it out myself, in fact IMO it should decrease the chance...... maybe im just thick
    Posted by scotty77
    Not really, just sense, the fewer hands in a pot will always increase your starting hand percentage of winning against any other hand. Otherwise whats ever the point in prelop raises?
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS:
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS : Not really, just sense, the fewer hands in a pot will always increase your starting hand percentage of winning against any other hand. Otherwise whats ever the point in prelop raises?
    Posted by Chhas
    No I understand the AA part.

    Lets say the OP in this thread had KJo.

    AA vs KJo is 86.5/13.5 (approx)

    What I don't get is why 3 way AA vs KJo vs 65ss is 63.5/14.3/22.2 (approx).

    Surely the odds for KJo to win should go down......

    I'm confused.  Help me Mere lol
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS:
    yeah lol ive just seen all the posts! mate just man up and dont get so worked up, like Tikay said send a message to sky Rich im sure he will get it sorted for u.  in my opinion you do have a case...but dont go runnin round the forums actin like a girl postin things that skypoker is a cheaters site etc because people aint gonna wanna hear it. g/l in gettin it sorted
    Posted by Eagle26
    you have a nerve boyo, would u not moan if this happened to you BET YOU WOULD
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS:
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS : ok well thats why i love poker.  just did some quick calcs on various random hands and have found that yeah they tend to increase the chance by a fraction of a percentage. now im gonna try and find out why that is because i can't figure it out myself, in fact IMO it should decrease the chance...... maybe im just thick
    Posted by scotty77
    Just simple maths.
    Say he had 33 and was up against AA.
    He's a bit worse than 20/80 to win and basically he needs to hit his 3 to win - although there are obviously other ways.
    If he hits his 3 he really only has to avoid an A.
    If he's also up against 99 and TT, he also needs to avoid 2 9's and 2 T's so there are 3 times as many re-draws in this case.
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  • wemjaywemjay
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS:
    While it is innappropriate to talk about hands in the chat box, in this instance no harm was done?  He was always calling with AA.  You was gonna lose a large proportion of the time. He did cover himself from being given a bad beat tho by another caller but w/e, that didn't change your hand or chance of winning it only increased his by a small percentage. My advice would be to stop moaning and get on with it.  Because no one really cares and you are embarrasing yourself by moaning so much about being knocked out of a low limit satellite tournie.
    Posted by scotty77
    if no-one cares then keep ur comments to urself as u r the only idiot that understands them
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS:
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS : if no-one cares then keep ur comments to urself as u r the only idiot that understands them
    Posted by wemjay
    I CARE WEMJAY AND GL ON GETTIN IT SORTED
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  • wemjaywemjay
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS:
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS : I CARE WEMJAY AND GL ON GETTIN IT SORTED
    Posted by debdobs_67
    thankyou debdobs seems everyone likes a cheat xxx
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  • loonytoonsloonytoons
    edited October 2009
    how do you know wemjay was gonna be put out regardless, another player may have bet ( KK , QQ etc) but then folded because of the chat,  if they had fewer chips and 2 players lost then they would have lost. To be honest its not skys fault however id be peed off if it happened to me and i think the player should be banned for 3 months- do it again then ban 4 life it is cheating. In response to webby i see your point but that should not matter , cheating is cheating and the time lapse should not matter only the facts
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS:
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS : Just simple maths. Say he had 33 and was up against AA. He's a bit worse than 20/80 to win and basically he needs to hit his 3 to win - although there are obviously other ways. If he hits his 3 he really only has to avoid an A. If he's also up against 99 and TT, he also needs to avoid 2 9's and 2 T's so there are 3 times as many re-draws in this case.
    Posted by MereNovice
    Thats what I thought I was saying :s

    Someone said that having the pot multiway that it increased the OPs chances of winning. 

    I can't see how it can do, as the OPs cards aren't gonna be affected by a random villains holding.

    I think some how we're all getting confused here.  Cos what you just typed out is what I said originally... :s

    But on top of that I just did the stats a few posts up and thats confused me even more.

    Sigh its too late for this and this is gonna bug me.
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  • wemjaywemjay
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: BEWARE THE CHEATS:
    how do you know wemjay was gonna be put out regardless, another player may have bet ( KK , QQ etc) but then folded because of the chat,  if they had fewer chips and 2 players lost then they would have lost. To be honest its not skys fault however id be peed off if it happened to me and i think the player should be banned for 3 months- do it again then ban 4 life it is cheating. In response to webby i see your point but that should not matter , cheating is cheating and the time lapse should not matter only the facts
    Posted by loonytoons
    thankyou someone has seen my point
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  • oynutteroynutter
    edited October 2009

    i totally agree with wemjay--anyone that announces thier hand in the chat box when there are still players to act is cheating---you are only allowed to lie about your holding---telling the truth is cheating--any player that uses the chat box to cheat should be chat banned for doing so

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