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dont win

edge215edge215
edited August 2011 in Area 51
Do what u like on this site...but for godsake dont win.....such a good week...several good placings with lots of bounties in the bounty hunters....and finished last week by winning the last 2 deep stacks on friday night/morning.....What a mistake this turned out to be....severely punished since...playing no different but getting caught on everything....probably the worst beat was eight of hearts on the river...giving me ace queen flush...but giving opponent full house with roof made of eight...thot it was worse until ace queen flush next nite..caught by full house...with 8 of diamonds this time on river...i believe in coincidence..but thats ridiculous..also caught..pocket king nine with 10 king king on flop...a turn seven give other player house with sevens high...flop providing me time after time with open ended straights or four suited..or both...and either failing to fill too many times to be true...or filling once or twice...and getting beat...what happened to a few easy to fold hands?...Ace king queen(especially) or jack....about one win for peanuts out of every 50...the cards have been so cruel its completely ruining the fun i was getting from playing...its like youve just won at the casino..and they've sent the heavies out to get the money back....usual format...let them win a little...and then they'll lose a lot...except this site is mistaken me for someone who's got a lot...time to stand back methinks...better game on zynga.
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    i wish i new how to post hands...cos guess wat.....yes tonite first tourney ace high spade flush beat yet again by a house with eight on the river....unbelieveable?....tell me how to post hands...and i'll show u this sky manufactured hand 3 times on the same player in 3 days....you people are a joke
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011
    Lol so you have a great week and win multiple tournaments.

    You follow this by having a bad week.

    And you're getting all wound up and annoyed, and claiming it's fixed? 

    ------------------------

    Btw I'd like to see your hands too, go to "My sky poker - click on hand histories, use the filters to find your hand. Highlight the hand and copy and paste it onto a thread" Make sure you use Internet explorer though to do it.




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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    Lol so you have a great week and win multiple tournaments. You follow this by having a bad week. And you're getting all wound up and annoyed, and claiming it's fixed?  ------------------------ Btw I'd like to see your hands too, go to "My sky poker - click on hand histories, use the filters to find your hand. Highlight the hand and copy and paste it onto a thread" Make sure you use Internet explorer though to do it.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    its not that i'm getting beat doh...i've no problem accepting that bad beats happen...but come on..i;m obviously playing decent poker....i've went deep in tourney's dabbling with short stacks for hours...but 3 ace flushes all rivered by eights...thats manufactured...i'll try to post these hands following ur instructions....but i honestly dont really worry about winning or losing...its just knowing you've played well...and not constantly dealt unfoldable hands that are beaten time after timme after time etc etc etc etcetc
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    In Response to Re: dont win : its not that i'm getting beat doh...i've no problem accepting that bad beats happen...but come on..i;m obviously playing decent poker....i've went deep in tourney's dabbling with short stacks for hours...but 3 ace flushes all rivered by eights...thats manufactured...i'll try to post these hands following ur instructions....but i honestly dont really worry about winning or losing...its just knowing you've played well...and not constantly dealt unfoldable hands that are beaten time after timme after time etc etc etc etcetc
    Posted by edge215
    Right i can now find hand histories...unfortuneately my wife being the technical 1 will have to do rest...and i gaurantee to display 3 ace flushes all beaten by river eight....i wont bother displaying flop after flop giving me open ended straights or four suited or both...far to numerous to blog over last few days...but i like everyone else who enjoys the game...including you doh...know when we're playing good cards...also know this isn't a gimmee to win....but you also know when its time to kick the table over and check your opponents sleeves before shooting him
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    In Response to Re: dont win : Right i can now find hand histories...unfortuneately my wife being the technical 1 will have to do rest...and i gaurantee to display 3 ace flushes all beaten by river eight....i wont bother displaying flop after flop giving me open ended straights or four suited or both...far to numerous to blog over last few days...but i like everyone else who enjoys the game...including you doh...know when we're playing good cards...also know this isn't a gimmee to win....but you also know when its time to kick the table over and check your opponents sleeves before shooting him
    Posted by edge215
    "Win a little..lose a lot" thats how all these sites work...its the way they do it stinks
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    In Response to Re: dont win : "Win a little..lose a lot" thats how all these sites work...its the way they do it stinks
    Posted by edge215
    But it's not....

    If that was true everyone would be a losing player, which is impossible, as someone has to win...

    We play against other real people, not the house.


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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    squidge50 Small blind  10.00 10.00 2300.00
    tcuk1 Big blind  20.00 30.00 1930.00
     Your hole cards
    • 10
    • J
    		   
    Moonmin Fold     
    edge215 Call  20.00 50.00 4395.00
    murpheus Fold     
    LULU2ACES Raise  80.00 130.00 1460.00
    squidge50 Call  70.00 200.00 2230.00
    tcuk1 Call  60.00 260.00 1870.00
    edge215 Call  60.00 320.00 4335.00
    Flop
      
    • 7
    • 9
    • 8
    		   
    squidge50 Check     
    tcuk1 Check     
    edge215 Bet  160.00 480.00 4175.00
    LULU2ACES Call  160.00 640.00 1300.00
    squidge50 Call  160.00 800.00 2070.00
    tcuk1 Fold     
    Turn
      
    • A
    		   
    squidge50 Check     
    edge215 Bet  400.00 1200.00 3775.00
    LULU2ACES Call  400.00 1600.00 900.00
    squidge50 Fold     
    River
      
    • 8
    		   
    edge215 All-in  3775.00 5375.00 0.00
    LULU2ACES All-in  900.00 6275.00 0.00
    edge215 Unmatched bet  2875.00 3400.00 2875.00
    edge215 Show
    • 10
    • J
    		   
    LULU2ACES Show
    • A
    • 8
    		   
    LULU2ACES Win Full House, 8s and Aces 3400.00  3400.00
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  • drumahai05drumahai05
    edited July 2011
    keep posting edge some may not like the way you explain your frustrations, so what. you are just saying what a lot of players past and present have said. not just on sky, but online poker in general. like you its not so much the money i play for its the social /fun. at least you have this forum to vent your anger on. so use it and hopefully the message will be heard by the suits. before the site becomes to small to be viable. some will dispute this fact but time will tell
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011

    Bit unlucky on the river edge but plenty of mistakes in the hand that you would do well to look at and spend time working on rather than complaining on here.

    Are you putting the other 2 up?
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    bizzle81 Check     
    River
      
    • 8
    		   
    edge215 Bet  1800.00 3600.00 5335.00
    bizzle81 All-in  4130.00 7730.00 0.00
    edge215 Raise  4660.00 12390.00 675.00
    edge215 Unmatched bet  2330.00 10060.00 3005.00
    edge215 Show
    • 9
    • Q
    		   
    bizzle81 Show
    • 8
    • A
    		   
    bizzle81 Win Full House, Aces and 8s 10060.00  10060.00
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    Bit unlucky on the river edge but plenty of mistakes in the hand that you would do well to look at and spend time working on rather than complaining on here. Are you putting the other 2 up?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    agree that the first posted hand ace jack spade flush...could have been beat by q k..so not great played hand...but it wasnt it was the manufactured river eight hand 3 coming up
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    po7k3r Big blind  60.00 90.00 1445.00
     Your hole cards
    • 9
    • Q
    		   
    TAFF761 Fold     
    johnn201 Fold     
    gggary Call  60.00 150.00 4387.50
    kazza56 Fold     
    edge215 Call  30.00 180.00 8210.00
    po7k3r Check     
    Flop
      
    • 8
    • 10
    • 6
    		   
    edge215 Bet  60.00 240.00 8150.00
    po7k3r Call  60.00 300.00 1385.00
    gggary Call  60.00 360.00 4327.50
    Turn
      
    • A
    		   
    edge215 Check     
    po7k3r Check     
    gggary Check     
    River
      
    • 6
    		   
    edge215 Bet  360.00 720.00 7790.00
    po7k3r Call  360.00 1080.00 1025.00
    gggary Raise  720.00 1800.00 3607.50
    edge215 All-in  7790.00 9590.00 0.00
    po7k3r Fold     
    gggary All-in  3607.50 13197.50 0.00
    edge215 Unmatched bet  3822.50 9375.00 3822.50
    edge215 Show
    • 9
    • Q
    		   
    gggary Show
    • 6
    • 8
    		   
    gggary Win Full House, 6s and 8s 9375.00  9375.00
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011
    GULP!

    Why are you shoving the river????

    Yes the river hit the guy and he went ahead of you, but that doesn't mean you have to give him all your chips. That's just suicide on that board.

    Part of the skill of playing good poker is recognising when you go behind in a hand and limiting your losses.

    That's river shove is scary
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    By the way doh...when u say plenty of mistakes...u cant know that unless your in the hand....and unless you've been privvy to other hands played by your opponent....at the time during that hand i did not take this player for a higher spade..a fact in which i was correct...and  i knew he hadn't a higher spade...so the all in was correct..in the knowledge he probably had aces or at the most two pair...I dont know what your role is...i would say probably moderator..or there to descredit complainers....we have the right to complain...in the hope that it might actually reach a source that can do something about it...there are by far too many manufactured hands on sky poker...and it is unfair to players who aren't there necessarily to win...but to play poker for a pastime...you may say go to cashless game....but there is no comparison in the level of play...i have saw players at final tables in cash tournaments.....that would never reach a final table or even go close in a non manufactured game.....so i say again...."LET THEM WIN A LITTLE....SO THEY LOSE A LOT".....i enjoy the game too much to give up....so i will keep playing....i've just got to learn to fold some ace flushes...trip kings...pocket aces..kings...and especially jacks......if i do that every now and again....i mite have a chance against those who call with 8 2 unsuited and fill a houses ..and when i'm playing well and know it..i will accept 1 2 0r even 3 and 4 bad beats in a row as part of the game....but when i know i'm being trashed by preconceived computor generation time after time after time...i'll come on and complain about it....bitterly...but many thanks for explaining how to post hands...i'm sure i will avail myself of this in the future
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    By the way doh...when u say plenty of mistakes...u cant know that unless your in the hand....and unless you've been privvy to other hands played by your opponent....at the time during that hand i did not take this player for a higher spade..a fact in which i was correct...and  i knew he hadn't a higher spade...so the all in was correct..in the knowledge he probably had aces or at the most two pair...I dont know what your role is...i would say probably moderator..or there to descredit complainers....we have the right to complain...in the hope that it might actually reach a source that can do something about it...there are by far too many manufactured hands on sky poker...and it is unfair to players who aren't there necessarily to win...but to play poker for a pastime...you may say go to cashless game....but there is no comparison in the level of play...i have saw players at final tables in cash tournaments.....that would never reach a final table or even go close in a non manufactured game.....so i say again...."LET THEM WIN A LITTLE....SO THEY LOSE A LOT".....i enjoy the game too much to give up....so i will keep playing....i've just got to learn to fold some ace flushes...trip kings...pocket aces..kings...and especially jacks......if i do that every now and again....i mite have a chance against those who call with 8 2 unsuited and fill a houses ..and when i'm playing well and know it..i will accept 1 2 0r even 3 and 4 bad beats in a row as part of the game....but when i know i'm being trashed by preconceived computor generation time after time after time...i'll come on and complain about it....bitterly...but many thanks for explaining how to post hands...i'm sure i will avail myself of this in the future
    Posted by edge215

    Bingo!

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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    keep posting edge some may not like the way you explain your frustrations, so what. you are just saying what a lot of players past and present have said. not just on sky, but online poker in general. like you its not so much the money i play for its the social /fun. at least you have this forum to vent your anger on. so use it and hopefully the message will be heard by the suits. before the site becomes to small to be viable. some will dispute this fact but time will tell
    Posted by drumahai05
    thank you so much drumahai....you have made me feel so much better...like i say...i feel we can all accept bad beats as part of the game....but my case is that real poker players just know instinctively when they're being turned over....but i really dont think time will tell.....these sites are just another of the things in life were greedy professionals steamroller over the top of us...without fear of justice intervening....thanks again though...i was so pleased to see your post
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    In Response to Re: dont win : But it's not.... If that was true everyone would be a losing player, which is impossible, as someone has to win... We play against other real people, not the house.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    you didn't just say that doh...did you?....lol....lol...lol

    Explain how everytime i enter a freeroll with no balance left....i always go top 20.....if i have balance....im out early.....why?  cos i mite rebuy of course.....have you ever been put out when there isn't another tournament just ready to start......lol...lol...lol....reallly doh!
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  • steve63steve63
    edited July 2011
    edge,this happens live all the time,i really wish people would stop saying online poker is rigged. would you have posted anything had it been you that had hit the river?
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    By the way doh...when u say plenty of mistakes...u cant know that unless your in the hand....and unless you've been privvy to other hands played by your opponent....at the time during that hand i did not take this player for a higher spade..a fact in which i was correct...and  i knew he hadn't a higher spade...so the all in was correct..in the knowledge he probably had aces or at the most two pair...I dont know what your role is...i would say probably moderator..or there to descredit complainers....we have the right to complain...in the hope that it might actually reach a source that can do something about it...there are by far too many manufactured hands on sky poker...and it is unfair to players who aren't there necessarily to win...but to play poker for a pastime...you may say go to cashless game....but there is no comparison in the level of play...i have saw players at final tables in cash tournaments.....that would never reach a final table or even go close in a non manufactured game.....so i say again...."LET THEM WIN A LITTLE....SO THEY LOSE A LOT".....i enjoy the game too much to give up....so i will keep playing....i've just got to learn to fold some ace flushes...trip kings...pocket aces..kings...and especially jacks......if i do that every now and again....i mite have a chance against those who call with 8 2 unsuited and fill a houses ..and when i'm playing well and know it..i will accept 1 2 0r even 3 and 4 bad beats in a row as part of the game....but when i know i'm being trashed by preconceived computor generation time after time after time...i'll come on and complain about it....bitterly...but many thanks for explaining how to post hands...i'm sure i will avail myself of this in the future
    Posted by edge215
    thing is what do you want "them" to do about it.........?stop players who are ahead being outdrawn? insist fh never gets beat? aa never looses to aipf?....because i dont think it would be possible
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    This is just a theory....but i'm sure sky set targets for themselves on a weekly basis...in all fields....i don't see why poker would be an exception......Now just for instance....say  these targets are reached by wednesday...it maybe that we get fairer games for the rest of the week....(i know...hard to swallow with greedy suits coining it in)......but just say because of this corporate greed...(that a thousand sky players say....i 've had enuff...i'm off...now would our friends at sky say....1). We'll need to drop our targets because its not fair on our remaining customers......or......2) We'll need to get our exsisting customers to make up the shortfall....even if it takes all week.....and then a few more leave....etc etc etc....i'm sure you get the picture
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    This is just a theory....but i'm sure sky set targets for themselves on a weekly basis...in all fields....i don't see why poker would be an exception......Now just for instance....say  these targets are reached by wednesday...it maybe that we get fairer games for the rest of the week....(i know...hard to swallow with greedy suits coining it in)......but just say because of this corporate greed...(that a thousand sky players say....i 've had enuff...i'm off...now would our friends at sky say....1). We'll need to drop our targets because its not fair on our remaining customers......or......2) We'll need to get our exsisting customers to make up the shortfall....even if it takes all week.....and then a few more leave....etc etc etc....i'm sure you get the picture
    Posted by edge215

    Bonkers.

    Thaz a lost cause 


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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    GULP! Why are you shoving the river???? Yes the river hit the guy and he went ahead of you, but that doesn't mean you have to give him all your chips. That's just suicide on that board. Part of the skill of playing good poker is recognising when you go behind in a hand and limiting your losses. That's river shove is scary
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Why am i shoving the river with an ace queen flush?.....mmmmh....i guess we'll never no...(who knew lightening strikes the same place 3 times in fairly quick succession up to now)
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    In Response to Re: dont win : Bonkers. Thaz a lost cause 
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    good answer...when's the next guys shift..at least this doh isnt quoting text book hands like passages of a bible...(Devilfish 1...psalm 24..they shalt not 5xbet after checking the flop...lol).....people dont play text book poker...therefore you got to play poker instinctively....but there's nothing more satisfying than watching all the text book quoting poker experts flopping like a fish....which happens all the time....but maybe they would have a chance too if the random number generator....generated numbers a bit more randomly
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    In Response to Re: dont win : good answer...when's the next guys shift..at least this doh isnt quoting text book hands like passages of a bible...(Devilfish 1...psalm 24..they shalt not 5xbet after checking the flop...lol).....people dont play text book poker...therefore you got to play poker instinctively....but there's nothing more satisfying than watching all the text book quoting poker experts flopping like a fish....which happens all the time....but maybe they would have a chance too if the random number generator....generated numbers a bit more randomly
    Posted by edge215
    next thing you'll be telling me is....it doen't matter how your opponent has played the last 300 hands....just read a text book and you'll know exactly what to do......well i did...i read "How to build a bridge in six easy stages"...and still got beat with pocket aces....but now i dont have to touch the floor when i'm crossing the living room......change the record...90% of the players online know how to play poker....we dont need our play fixed...we need sky to be less fixed
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    I've never seen a tournament televised or not....won by textbook poker...and i watch them all
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    p.s....at the table the book goes out the window
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    GULP!
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    edge,this happens live all the time,i really wish people would stop saying online poker is rigged. would you have posted anything had it been you that had hit the river?
    Posted by steve63
    no steve...ur right i wouldn't...but then i wouldn't be in a position were im still in the pot with 8 2..7 2...9 3  etc..with even a minimum raise....(with the exception perhaps of final 2 final table)...but point taken m8
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  • edge215edge215
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: dont win:
    In Response to Re: dont win : no steve...ur right i wouldn't...but then i wouldn't be in a position were im still in the pot with 8 2..7 2...9 3  etc..with even a minimum raise....(with the exception perhaps of final 2 final table)...but point taken m8
    Posted by edge215
    do u not think the fact that you say it happens all the time speaks volumes...
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited July 2011
    Edge ure more than prob a really decent fella , but in all honesty mate ya gotta , just gotta accept the beats and move on. If you know ya played a hand well but still lost then ya have to be happy that ya did nowt wrong. I used to blame site/players/aliens/gordon brown etc as long as it wasnt me. What i did was rethink , look in the poker clinic non stop and realise it was actually me that was not that good. I have now vastly improved my position , bet sizing and knowing/feeling i could be behind and i kid ya not my game has improved vastly.
    Best of luck anyway xxx
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