how should i of played this hand at this stage or tourney

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: how should i of played this hand at this stage or tourney:

In Response to Re: how should i of played this hand at this stage or tourney : If the bb is competent I think you should be shoving with 100% of your opening range to balance your range.
Posted by yb

Doesn't it depend on stacks though? You cant open shove 25xbb, you can't raise/fold or call 4xbb......

So what I'm asking is where's the cut off on sky without antes?

So obv ur either shoving everything or raise - call/folding everything......

The range of hands you do it with is still gonna be the same, just the stack size is the variable....?

jakally

In Response to Re: how should i of played this hand at this stage or tourney:

In Response to Re: how should i of played this hand at this stage or tourney : Is that in general? or with this hand in this spot? KTo isn't strong enough to induce with right, unless the BB is insanely agro, and even then it's not strong enough??? Just as an aside, what size stack would you induce and raise/fold with in this spot on sky without antes? When does it go from raise-fold/raise-call, to just open shove iyo? What's the worst hand you would induce with against a competent BB in the above scenario, or even when folded you you in the BB?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I don't raise call, but what I mean is, if that is Batkin's way of playing I can llive with it.

I wouldn't try and induce with any hand from a 10BB stack. If I start varying raise sizes, in relation to  hand strength, I may as well turn my cards face up.

yb

In Response to Re: how should i of played this hand at this stage or tourney:

In Response to Re: how should i of played this hand at this stage or tourney : Doesn't it depend on stacks though? You cant open shove 25xbb, you can't raise/fold or call 4xbb...... So what I'm asking is where's the cut off on sky without antes? So obv ur either shoving everything or raise - call/folding everything...... The range of hands you do it with is still gonna be the same, just the stack size is the variable....?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

oh i thought you were asking what hands would you raise/call and what hands would you just open shove with 10bb's. When I'm on the button I normally start to raise/fold with like 14/15 bb's.

Batkin88

However in answer to the thread ....... You shouldn't call

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: how should i of played this hand at this stage or tourney:

In Response to Re: how should i of played this hand at this stage or tourney : oh i thought you were asking what hands would you raise/call and what hands would you just open shove with 10bb's. When I'm on the button I normally start to raise/fold with like 14/15 bb's.
Posted by yb

Ok so if you have 14/15xbb, whats the worst hand you will raise/call off with against a competent big blind, if the BB has...

a)15xbb

b)40xbb

c)80+xbb

......?

Thats what I meant by raising to induce, raising with the intention of calling a shove....?

grantorino

shove pre. I dont think you can raise/fold with a K in your hand. I dont hate just raising a normal size though, especially if you havent shoved yet with this kind of stack

yb

In Response to Re: how should i of played this hand at this stage or tourney:

In Response to Re: how should i of played this hand at this stage or tourney : Ok so if you have 14/15xbb, whats the worst hand you will raise/call off with against a competent big blind, if the BB has... a)15xbb b)40xbb c)80+xbb ......? Thats what I meant by raising to induce, raising with the intention of calling a shove....?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

idk some reads would be nice, but assuming the BB is good then I'd have a calling range of something like 33+,A2+,KJo+,KTs+ to a 3bet shove assuming I minraised, but I don't play many tournies at all so this could be really bad. whenever I've played on sky though the blinds are normally pretty nitty so you could raise/fold something like A6o with 15bb's and feel pretty happy about it.