Hi Holdem Hoty. Regarding the hand you posted...........
Not sure I could make the call here, however, oppo has a huge stack and if he calls 10K to win 15K he still has over 14K back.
Looking at it from oppos point of view.....Pre-Flop you check on the Big Blind, (understandably with your holding cards) however, now oppo will suspect we are very week as there was no raise pre-flop and he pretty much knows you have no A or K or Pocket Pair, otherwise we would have made a raise pre.
Your 800 bet on the flop looks like a steel bet tbh, so he re-raises thinking we still have no hand, once you shove over the top he has a big decision to make 1. he still thinks he's ahead 2. he thinks you are making a play to steel the pot 3. he has 2 pair so 10K to try and win 15K.
If he thinks he's right in 2 out of 3 points then he makes the call and hopes he hasn't got unlucky.
Its a tough call imo, but looking at it from his point of view, it's very difficult to put you on any sort of decent hand here. Looking at his history and his stack side, I would say he is quite a risk taker though and he's probably gonna lose his stack quite often making these calls.
Hi Holdem Hoty. Regarding the hand you posted........... Not sure I could make the call here, however, oppo has a huge stack and if he calls 10K to win 15K he still has over 14K back. Looking at it from oppos point of view.....Pre-Flop you check on the Big Blind, (understandably with your holding cards) however, now oppo will suspect we are very week as there was no raise pre-flop and he pretty much knows you have no A or K or Pocket Pair, otherwise we would have made a raise pre. Your 800 bet on the flop looks like a steel bet tbh, so he re-raises thinking we still have no hand, once you shove over the top he has a big decision to make 1. he still thinks he's ahead 2. he thinks you are making a play to steel the pot 3. he has 2 pair so 10K to try and win 15K. If he thinks he's right in 2 out of 3 points then he makes the call and hopes he hasn't got unlucky. Its a tough call imo, but looking at it from his point of view, it's very difficult to put you on any sort of decent hand here. Looking at his history and his stack side, I would say he is quite a risk taker though and he's probably gonna lose his stack quite often making these calls. Posted by POKERTREV
Thankyou to the detailed reply Trev. How are you able to see somebodys history on here?
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : Thankyou to the detailed reply Trev. How are you able to see somebodys history on here? Posted by HoldemHoty
A website called sharkscope - can't divulge players stats/info on here as it's bad ettiquette and frowned upon. Have a quick browse on the web, if you can't find it let me know and I will PM you.
EDIT ps. its not 100% accurate and it doesnt track wins & Losses in cash games.
Hi guys just a quick post to ask does any1 think i made a bad fold ! havent got the hand history but il just go through it ! i was in a master cash table 20 nl the other night an i have kk in the small blind ! id been playing on this table 4 about 2 hours an id seen this guy not play a single hand ! he limps utg plus 2 other limpers ! i have kk in the sb so i 4 x it ! he instantly comes over the top to 4.60 so i 4 bet him 2 15 ! and he 5 bets me to something like28 quid ! after evulating my options i decide to fold on the basis that he can only have aces or the same hand ! iv spoke to a few ppl about it and iv been told that it is being results orientated ! just wanted to hear a few opinions as it was a pretty sick spot !!!!
Hi guys just a quick post to ask does any1 think i made a bad fold ! havent got the hand history but il just go through it ! i was in a master cash table 20 nl the other night an i have kk in the small blind ! id been playing on this table 4 about 2 hours an id seen this guy not play a single hand ! he limps utg plus 2 other limpers ! i have kk in the sb so i 4 x it ! he instantly comes over the top to 4.60 so i 4 bet him 2 15 ! and he 5 bets me to something like28 quid ! after evulating my options i decide to fold on the basis that he can only have aces or the same hand ! iv spoke to a few ppl about it and iv been told that it is being results orientated ! just wanted to hear a few opinions as it was a pretty sick spot !!!! Posted by addo07
This betting pattern has all the signs of Pocket Aces - Nothing wrong with the fold here imo (Some would disagree) and some would just call and re-load.
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : A website called sharkscope - can't divulge players stats/info on here as it's bad ettiquette and frowned upon. Have a quick browse on the web, if you can't find it let me know and I will PM you. EDIT ps. its not 100% accurate and it doesnt track wins & Losses in cash games. Posted by POKERTREV
Thanks Trev do use sharkscope but thought you were saying you could it on sky
N1 trev ! iv heard a few ppl say its results orientated but i dont c how it is ! i thought he had the aa an i cant c me gettin it in against worse at best i think he has the same hand ! thanks for the reply !!!
Hi guys just a quick post to ask does any1 think i made a bad fold ! havent got the hand history but il just go through it ! i was in a master cash table 20 nl the other night an i have kk in the small blind ! id been playing on this table 4 about 2 hours an id seen this guy not play a single hand ! he limps utg plus 2 other limpers ! i have kk in the sb so i 4 x it ! he instantly comes over the top to 4.60 so i 4 bet him 2 15 ! and he 5 bets me to something like28 quid ! after evulating my options i decide to fold on the basis that he can only have aces or the same hand ! iv spoke to a few ppl about it and iv been told that it is being results orientated ! just wanted to hear a few opinions as it was a pretty sick spot !!!! Posted by addo07
Hi
From the way you describe the hand i would say it is very possible for him to have AA. But also he is going to know how gd his table image is and may have been waiting to make this type of play. Being as it is cash i would make the call knowing you can reload.
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : Hi From the way you describe the hand i would say it is very possible for him to have AA. But also he is going to know how gd his table image is and may have been waiting to make this type of play. Being as it is cash i would make the call knowing you can reload. Posted by HoldemHoty
Is the call a good idea? What we do have to remember is, all this action has been Pre-Flop so..........
Should we shove all-in now? (Pre-Flop) Or Do we just make the call to the flop and reasses?
What's our next move if the flop comes down A High or a paired board?
If we are going to make the call, we need to have an idea of how we are going to proceed with the hand post flop.
Opinions Anyone?
Edit The other question I forgot to ask was how much addo had left on the table? cause if it was only a fiver or something, i'm probably shovin the rest in
trev have i been sent pword 4 2nite if so were 2 lol cant find it Posted by wolvesf474
Should be in your private messages m8 in "My Profile"
I'll send it to you again.
EDIT Password sent - Doesnt look like you are on FlyingDaggs Friends List though, so you will need to add him as a friend so he can PM you for future tournies.
I am invited to your private game tonight by Trevor!!
Looking forwars to it, Ty trev & TPT!!!
if anyone in TPT wants, we have also our THS Donk-A-Funs, run Weds holdem & Sundays PLO alternating PLO Hilo!! runners vary between 5/6 to 15 usually, No team points or rules, just friendly games with banter
All TPT have an open invite from me, password 'truehitters'.....
Sorry I've not been around much to help sort out Pws etc but been pretty sick last couple of days. TY Trevor for your help. Apologies wolves you are on my friends list but I appear to have missed you when sent out the pm's. I'm still very much under par but I have to go for the hat trick don't I?
Sorry I've not been around much to help sort out Pws etc but been pretty sick last couple of days. TY Trevor for your help. Apologies wolves you are on my friends list but I appear to have missed you when sent out the pm's. I'm still very much under par but I have to go for the hat trick don't I? Posted by FlyingDagg
Hi guys just a quick post to ask does any1 think i made a bad fold ! havent got the hand history but il just go through it ! i was in a master cash table 20 nl the other night an i have kk in the small blind ! id been playing on this table 4 about 2 hours an id seen this guy not play a single hand ! he limps utg plus 2 other limpers ! i have kk in the sb so i 4 x it ! he instantly comes over the top to 4.60 so i 4 bet him 2 15 ! and he 5 bets me to something like28 quid ! after evulating my options i decide to fold on the basis that he can only have aces or the same hand ! iv spoke to a few ppl about it and iv been told that it is being results orientated ! just wanted to hear a few opinions as it was a pretty sick spot !!!! Posted by addo07
hi addo on his 5 bet was he all in ? if not how much did he have behind him ?
you had already gone £15 and his bet to £28 means it was only another £13 into a £43 + pot ......and you have the 2nd best starting hand in texas hold em , sorry i don`t think you can really fold there , like hotty says he could just be using his table image , could even be frustration not playing a hand in 2 hours but you were getting the right odds to call / jam it in
Comments
YES :-)
Welcome back Ms S :-) and thanks to you and your wonderful support on the FT from 6th place to champion, I thank you xx
£400 bh 1st/94 £65.80 and £25.16 in bounties
still not quiet got the hang of these computers lol
but this is my rant to you don't know how he can call but then catch 2 outer!!!!! arrrggghhh
That is my rant over haha
Thankyou to the ppl that helped me work out how to do this ))
one from the bank buster tonight. plo so it never made its £800 so no double cash
Small one for the Captain - Kings of Cash Tourny
kings of cash 9th £75 wp trev and unbpower and engy nice cashes
Regarding the hand you posted...........
Not sure I could make the call here, however, oppo has a huge stack and if he calls 10K to win 15K he still has over 14K back.
Looking at it from oppos point of view.....Pre-Flop you check on the Big Blind, (understandably with your holding cards) however, now oppo will suspect we are very week as there was no raise pre-flop and he pretty much knows you have no A or K or Pocket Pair, otherwise we would have made a raise pre.
Your 800 bet on the flop looks like a steel bet tbh, so he re-raises thinking we still have no hand, once you shove over the top he has a big decision to make 1. he still thinks he's ahead 2. he thinks you are making a play to steel the pot 3. he has 2 pair so 10K to try and win 15K.
If he thinks he's right in 2 out of 3 points then he makes the call and hopes he hasn't got unlucky.
Its a tough call imo, but looking at it from his point of view, it's very difficult to put you on any sort of decent hand here. Looking at his history and his stack side, I would say he is quite a risk taker though and he's probably gonna lose his stack quite often making these calls.
EDIT
ps. its not 100% accurate and it doesnt track wins & Losses in cash games.
PM Sent regarding TPT Tourney
From the way you describe the hand i would say it is very possible for him to have AA. But also he is going to know how gd his table image is and may have been waiting to make this type of play. Being as it is cash i would make the call knowing you can reload.
Should we shove all-in now? (Pre-Flop)
Or
Do we just make the call to the flop and reasses?
What's our next move if the flop comes down A High or a paired board?
If we are going to make the call, we need to have an idea of how we are going to proceed with the hand post flop.
Opinions Anyone?
Edit
The other question I forgot to ask was how much addo had left on the table? cause if it was only a fiver or something, i'm probably shovin the rest in
I'll send it to you again.
EDIT
Password sent - Doesnt look like you are on FlyingDaggs Friends List though, so you will need to add him as a friend so he can PM you for future tournies.
Looking forwars to it, Ty trev & TPT!!!
if anyone in TPT wants, we have also our THS Donk-A-Funs, run Weds holdem & Sundays PLO alternating PLO Hilo!! runners vary between 5/6 to 15 usually, No team points or rules, just friendly games with banter
All TPT have an open invite from me, password 'truehitters'.....
"TONIGHT HITSQUAD THS Donk-A-Fun Holdem 7.15pm £3.30!! pw 'truehitters'
All Squaddies old & New welcome, & ALL our other Forum & DTD friends!!
GL"
Apologies wolves you are on my friends list but I appear to have missed you when sent out the pm's. I'm still very much under par but I have to go for the hat trick don't I?
1 from b/h