"Away" at the poker table

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: "Away" at the poker table:

In Response to Re: "Away" at the poker table : Hi deb I think, when he has only 5BB left, no matter what position he is in, it is either, push or fold, I am pushing with any PP, any Ace, even as low as Q9.
Posted by acebarry10

Yeah in this case ure ob correct xx

gixxerk4

I have a big problem with a player being "away" in the blinds as you adjust your hand range accordingly depending on the number of players to act behind you.I might raise with a playable but marginal hand and for the bb to be supposedly away when I raise then suddenly reappear in time to act and often put in a big reraise I would term as unfair and angle shooting.
I feel sky needs to implement a feature that prevents an away player from acting once there has been action in the hand this would prevent this happening as it is a much more common thing than many people realise

Lambert180

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I have a big problem with a player being "away" in the blinds as you adjust your hand range accordingly depending on the number of players to act behind you.I might raise with a playable but marginal hand and for the bb to be supposedly away when I raise then suddenly reappear in time to act and often put in a big reraise I would term as unfair and angle shooting. I feel sky needs to implement a feature that prevents an away player from acting once there has been action in the hand this would prevent this happening as it is a much more common thing than many people realise
Posted by gixxerk4

Sorry but I think this would be massively unfair on the people who do it as a genuine mistake. Quite often, I'll run to the kitchen to get a drink, leave the laptop behind, come back to find I'm away but the action hasn't got to me yet, now if I was to run back and find AA, do you think it's fair that I'm not allowed to play that hand.

What about people who multi-table and have been put to away on one of their tables, can they not play the hand either?

Dazler

i had exactly this a while ago and player was away and blinds were still low and only 3 of us left so i played the big stack and ended up losing a couple of big hands and ended up with only about the same amount of blinds you did but the difference was the away player only had 1 blind left so would of benefited me and big stack if we both checked it but no the big stack just kept shoving every hand and i ended up having to call and went out while away player made it through. Its anoying as hell and does get to your head when you know he is almost out and your about to qualify or cash and so you try not to get involved but it aint worth it as dohh says shove every hand forget about away player double up and put big stack out so he dosnt have controll but you do. Sometimes the other player will be nice and check it through until there out but dont expect it as i have learned.

YOUNG_GUN

lol @ people who are complaining people sit back in when your trying to steal their blind

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: "Away" at the poker table:

I have a big problem with a player being "away" in the blinds as you adjust your hand range accordingly depending on the number of players to act behind you.I might raise with a playable but marginal hand and for the bb to be supposedly away when I raise then suddenly reappear in time to act and often put in a big reraise I would term as unfair and angle shooting. I feel sky needs to implement a feature that prevents an away player from acting once there has been action in the hand this would prevent this happening as it is a much more common thing than many people realise
Posted by gixxerk4

You always have at least AK anyway !!

AcidMan27

In Response to Re: "Away" at the poker table:

In Response to Re: "Away" at the poker table : Sorry but I think this would be massively unfair on the people who do it as a genuine mistake. Quite often, I'll run to the kitchen to get a drink, leave the laptop behind, come back to find I'm away but the action hasn't got to me yet, now if I was to run back and find AA, do you think it's fair that I'm not allowed to play that hand. What about people who multi-table and have been put to away on one of their tables, can they not play the hand either?
Posted by Lambert180

Yeah I agree, you've also got to think about people who may have a connection problem too.

At the end of the day you're stealing a blind from an away player, you've always got a risk element to it. There's usually more people still left to act after you so you never know what they're holding.

gixxerk4

My point wasnt about stealing the blind of an away player
It was about adjusting your "raising" range depending on the amount of players to act behind you the away player might not be in the blinds.
If you are playing live then your cards are always mucked when you are away from the table you cannot come back sit down and play your hand if action has taken place in the hand you cannot look at your cards get up and then sit back down and play your hand after seeing what other players do so why should you be able to do that online
You should not in my opinion be able to view your hole cards if you are away
Disconnection is another matter and unfortunately happens to us all now and again but its part of the game when a player disconnects his timing bar goes red then he autofolds and his blind is then open to be taken by anyone and if you raise then fair enough you might be reraised by another player who thinks you are stealing fair enough and part of the game.
I understand lamberts point about nipping out for a drink or missing the fact that you are away on a table when multitabling sometimes hard if for eg 6 tabling and involved on several tables and a lot of the time it is an "honest" return to the table but again feel that live rules should apply if you are not there when your hand is dealt then it should be folded purely to stop the people using this option to pretend they are not there
By the way DOHHH are you calling me a nit lol ;-)

1267

lol cracks me up this.   having some1 away at a final table is anything but a problem.  
I see the issue you have gixxer,  i can only reccommend playing the same hands you would as if the player was there !  unless its clear thats hes been away a long time, and is definately not doing this as some sort of tactic.  

MrWh1te

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If you are playing live then your cards are always mucked when you are away from the table you cannot come back sit down and play your hand if action has taken place in the hand you cannot look at your cards get up and then sit back down and play your hand after seeing what other players do so why should you be able to do that online

but again feel that live rules should apply if you are not there when your hand is dealt then it should be folded purely to stop the people using this option to pretend they are not there
Posted by gixxerk4

I think this probably is different from game to game.  Where I play, in a big well known casino, if you aren't at the table in a tourney your dealt in and blinds are put in but if you come back in time you can play your hand.

To the second part, why should live rules be the same anyway?
If it was, we would only 1 table, we would not be allowed others in our pwn homes comment, we wouldn't be able to swear over and over again at the table.
Fact is, online, whilst exactly the same as live poker, is also a different game altogether

BelovedLtd

In Response to Re: "Away" at the poker table:

In Response to Re: "Away" at the poker table : I think this probably is different from game to game.  Where I play, in a big well known casino, if you aren't at the table in a tourney your dealt in and blinds are put in but if you come back in time you can play your hand. ...
Posted by MrWh1te

As an aside, if a venue lets people play when they weren't at the table when the last card was dealt - I'd avoid that venue. It's really bad practice, I've seen it in pub games but it's really not appropriate for a 'proper' casino to do this.

MrWh1te

In Response to Re: "Away" at the poker table:

In Response to Re: "Away" at the poker table : As an aside, if a venue lets people play when they weren't at the table when the last card was dealt - I'd avoid that venue. It's really bad practice, I've seen it in pub games but it's really not appropriate for a 'proper' casino to do this.
Posted by BelovedLtd

Your hand has to be dealt because its a tourney and your blinds have to be put in.  If you are back in time to play the hand, so be it.

It is a well known poker chain btw, not some pub game or anything