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"Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary"

DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
edited July 2017 in Poker Chat


   nice idea jj look forward to reading yr diary plus i'll hav a go at a few
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    DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited January 2013

    Sky have agreed to trial my idea of introducing fast paced heads up sit and gos. As a condition, I will be writing a diary, with my results and general thoughts on the games which have been introduced to the sit n go lobby this morning.

    Hu sngs aren't for everybody, so this hyper version is going to appeal to a niche market.

    1) Turbo dym players.

    2) Action junkee's

    3) Cash 4 points grinders & priotrity club hopefuls. 

    Theres a common mis-conception amongst poker players, that short stacks and fast blinds leads to "bingo poker".

    The "sit and DOH" HU sngs, allow for a period of 8 minutes play, before the average stack drops below 10xbb. In online poker, that is still alot of hands. 

    Admittedly, the variance is gonna be high, but with low rake, and high volume, so can your ROI. 

    They are also fun, and will allow for rapid accumilation of poker points, to push myself, and others towards priority.

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    The aim of this diary is to record my results throughout the trial period, and hopefully show people that these games can be profitable.

    I'd urge everyone to have a shot at playing a few of these, if you have a spare 15 minutes, in the hope of converting you'z into HU hyper action junkeeeees!

    Anyway good luck if you decide to try them.

    Hopefully they'll be around for a while.

    P.S, the name certainly was not my idea! ;)
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    kb245kb245
    edited September 2011
    £5.25 a go bit steep for a trial game.
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    Lambert180Lambert180
    edited September 2011
    Especially with such a high variance game... plus I think it's ideal for the people who are really strong with their HUs game and mine needs a bit of work so I'll wait til my BRs a bit bigger before I give them a go.
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    DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited September 2011

    The level they have decided to trial it at is nothing to do with me folks, I just suggested the structure.

    I guess they plonked it between the higher levels and the micro stakes.....

    All being well there will be a game for every bankroll in the lobby within a week or so! 
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    FlashFlushFlashFlush
    edited September 2011
    Goodluck with it chap.

    I will probs start playing some of these actually. I need something to improve my rakeback, it's woeful now I'm only playing MTT's, I play 5 a night, so when it drops to 3 I'll probs fire a couple up.
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    mattlessmattless
    edited September 2011
    Just played 3 lost 2, but love the re-match idea. Your opponent has requested a re-match? How can you say no to that!
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    sillymunchsillymunch
    edited September 2011
    sorry mattless, i had to say no :( i only have a £30 bank roll, and i was just testing it out, unlucky your 10 didnt hold up against my pocket 8's well played :)
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    Lambert180Lambert180
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    Just played 3 lost 2, but love the re-match idea. Your opponent has requested a re-match? How can you say no to that!
    Posted by mattless
    That's an option on all HU SnGs isn't it?
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    Lambert180Lambert180
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    sorry mattless, i had to say no :( i only have a £30 bank roll, and i was just testing it out, unlucky your 10 didnt hold up against my pocket 8's well played :)
    Posted by sillymunch
    Now you're playing these with your BR?!! You must be running good to have not gone bust...
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    mattlessmattless
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : That's an option on all HU SnGs isn't it?
    Posted by Lambert180
    Wasn't aware. Have played some hu cash before (where rake kills you at my level imo) but not hu SnGs
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    Tikay10Tikay10
    edited September 2011

    They will ONLY be @ the £5 level during the Trial Period.

    If they prove popular, Buy-Ins will be extended to cover the usual levels. If they are not, they will be dropped. Simples.

    The name? Course I thought of it. Anyone wanna 4 bet me on that?
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    Lambert180Lambert180
    edited September 2011
    WOOT! Just beat Doh in one :)

    Well played though. I really enjoyed it, as you said in the chatbox it is really intense.
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    YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : Now you're playing these with your BR?!! You must be running good to have not gone bust...
    Posted by Lambert180
    This

    Also great addition love these on another site look forward to playing a few later before i go out
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    sillymunchsillymunch
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : Now you're playing these with your BR?!! You must be running good to have not gone bust...
    Posted by Lambert180
    I was curious what it was about :S decided to have one shot, since i got my free £5 from sky poker the other day i figured no harm in using it to test the HU SNG, the speed of the game suits my style of play, but clearly im not gonna be playing em all the time cus i am not rolled for it, 
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    DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited September 2011
    Ok, just to get this thread back on the "diary track" I'll log in a V small, disrupted session that I've had over the last hour or so.

    Obv talking alot to people on msn/twitter/forum/chatbox about the games, haven't been able to play solidly, but a few results/observations....

    Played 7 games, won 6, lost 1. 

    3 of the 7 games ended within blind level 1 (2 minutes), and only 1 game went beyond the stage where average stack was 10xbb (that was the one I lost).

    7 games played.

    Total profit = £23.25.

    Total Points = 21

    Need to eat now, can't have KFC going out of business just coz sky have introduced a new sng.

    Be back in half an hour to play a proper solid session, maybe even multi table! :S






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    Lambert180Lambert180
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    Ok, just to get this thread back on the "diary track" I'll log in a V small, disrupted session that I've had over the last hour or so. Obv talking alot to people on msn/twitter/forum/chatbox about the games, haven't been able to play solidly, but a few results/observations.... Played 7 games, won 6, lost 1.  3 of the 7 games ended within blind level 1 (2 minutes), and only 1 game went beyond the stage where average stack was 10xbb (that was the one I lost). 7 games played. Total profit = £23.25. Total Points = 21 Need to eat now, can't have KFC going out of business just coz sky have introduced a new sng. Be back in half an hour to play a proper solid session, maybe even multi table! :S
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    So you've only lost 1 out of 7 and that was me!

    Great result for me then :)

    Yeah I was shocked that all your other games finished in the first level considering it only last 2 minutes. I know it's short stacked but not so short stacked that you need to just be flipping for it. There is still a bit of play in the game. Good fun.

    EDIT: Just re-read and they didn't all finish in the first level, but still, that's quite fast. I think you deffo have a bit more time than people would think in these. Like I was a bit worried to say the least when you had me down to about 325 in our game but one double up and you're in the driving seat.
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    mkgunnermkgunner
    edited September 2011
    played 3 won 3,loving them at the minute!!
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    YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited September 2011
    Just to pre warn everyone if your running well eg. winning alot of them keep playing but minute swings the other way stop for the session as variance is a killer in them

    this is based on another site but exact same format so will be similar but hopefully more bad players ;)
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    delaney09delaney09
    edited September 2011
    Hypers are fun and good way to boost BR if you can avoid the high variance 100 times better then turbo husngs which for me seem to last a life time (short attention span)... i played around 700 of these on ps in 3 days and ran pretty good in them until obviously variance kicked in and i went on a 17 game downswing ($250) even managed to teach JJ a couple of lessons ;,(but still ended in a decent profit overall) but will definitely play a tonne of these when im back from DTD the weekend
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    YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    Hypers are fun and good way to boost BR if you can avoid the high variance 100 times better then turbo husngs which for me seem to last a life time (short attention span)... i played around 700 of these on ps in 3 days and ran pretty good in them until obviously variance kicked in and i went on a 17 game downswing ($250) even managed to teach JJ a couple of lessons ;,(but still ended in a decent profit overall) but will definitely play a tonne of these when im back from DTD the weekend
    Posted by delaney09
    PMSL my tea nearly went everywhere :P
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    delaney09delaney09
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : PMSL my tea nearly went everywhere :P
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    don't hate............ i had him over and done with in a couple of minutes ;) didn't see him again for the rest of the night lol
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    nagromnagrom
    edited September 2011
    If you play a lot of these you will experience some HUGE swings. I recommend using 150-200 buyins as a BR guideline. If you're a winning player you can expect an ROI of between 2-4% over a large sample (around 10k games). The main attraction is the rakeback really, although they are quite fun just for a change from the norm.
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    Lambert180Lambert180
    edited September 2011
    I understand the massive variance involved here but an ROI of 2-4% seems mighty low. Obviously taking into account rake payed to Sky, so winning one, then losing one would still leave you in loss, but still 2-4% means you're winning a very minor amount over 50% of games played and if you're HUs game is strong and you play the right opponents, I'm sure you could achieve a better ROI.
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    DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    If you play a lot of these you will experience some HUGE swings. I recommend using 150-200 buyins as a BR guideline. If you're a winning player you can expect an ROI of between 2-4% over a large sample (around 10k games). The main attraction is the rakeback really, although they are quite fun just for a change from the norm.
    Posted by nagrom
    This guy knows his onions.

    I think at the lower levels on sky there will be alot of "free games" against extremely soft opponents. 

    The 5% rake is a stumbling block, but that's what the trial period is for, not only for sky to see if there is a market for them, but for players to experiment and decide if they're gonna be profitable.

    I'm sure they will be more profitable than the turbo dyms btw. If anyone wants to challenge me on that, I'm up for it! ;)
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    delaney09delaney09
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    I understand the massive variance involved here but an ROI of 2-4% seems mighty low. Obviously taking into account rake payed to Sky, so winning one, then losing one would still leave you in loss, but still 2-4% means you're winning a very minor amount over 50% of games played and if you're HUs game is strong and you play the right opponents, I'm sure you could achieve a better ROI.
    Posted by Lambert180
    over a huge amount ROI's in SNGs are never going to be ridiculously high compared to mtt rois where you could have a 1% roi and get a big win and shoot to a 150% roi... to have an roi of between 2-4% over a high volume is considered brilliant if you sharkscope epitomised on PS under SNGs you will see what i mean....
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    unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited September 2011
    Just had a go at these. Played 4 won 2 lost 2 - got in ahead 5 times and lost every one. The varience in these will be huge as it ends up as a coin flip quite quickly. Good for the gamblers IMO. GL with them - not for me though.
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    FlashFlushFlashFlush
    edited September 2011
    Heres a thought for you. If you were a complete degen who never slept and you make 40k cash for points from just these alone you would be on 100% rakeback. (Including the priority 25% you would actually make money)

    Correct me if I'm wrong but you get 1 point per £1 entry fee, so £5.25 buyin = 5 points. 8,000 STT's = 40,000 points and 80,000 x 25p reg fee = £2000 (Which is the same as you get for 40k points)... CHA CHING!! (+25% bonus = £2,000 + £500)
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    pod1pod1
    edited September 2011
    so how many tables for how long charles?

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    sillymunchsillymunch
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    Heres a thought for you. If you were a complete degen who never slept and you make 40k cash for points from just these alone you would be on 100% rakeback. (Including the priority 25% you would actually make money) Correct me if I'm wrong but you get 1 point per £1 entry fee, so £5.25 buyin = 5 points. 8,000 STT's = 40,000 points and 80,000 x 25p reg fee = £2000 (Which is the same as you get for 40k points)... CHA CHING!! (+25% bonus = £2,000 + £500)
    Posted by FlashFlush
    Am i wrong :S i thought it was not on how much you pay, but the entry fee
    so £5 + 25p entry fee?
    so you need 4 games for 1 point

    NOW i could be wrong :)
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    mattlessmattless
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary":
    Heres a thought for you. If you were a complete degen who never slept and you make 40k cash for points from just these alone you would be on 100% rakeback. (Including the priority 25% you would actually make money) Correct me if I'm wrong but you get 1 point per £1 entry fee, so £5.25 buyin = 5 points. 8,000 STT's = 40,000 points and 80,000 x 25p reg fee = £2000 (Which is the same as you get for 40k points)... CHA CHING!! (+25% bonus = £2,000 + £500)
    Posted by FlashFlush
    Only get 3 points as it is based on rake (25p) not entry of £5
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