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Nobody to blame but ourselves.......
Many of us think that the best scheduled Daily Tourney on Sky Poker is the £400 Guaranteed, £22 7.30pm Deepie.
I certainly do, & it's one Tourney I expect to Cash in more nights than not.
Last night, it mustered a mere 15 runners. So now, the Guarantee has been dropped to £300. We really can't blame Sky Poker for this. The Guarantee was £500 at one time, then £400, now £300.
Meanwhile, the rapid structured 9pm Biggies continue to attract maximum capacity fields more nights than not. Who can blame Sky Poker for concentrating on Tourneys which attract as many as 700 Runners, when our 7.30 Deepie only garners two dozen at best most nights?
If we don't support this Tourney, it will get cancelled. It's that simple.
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There is an alternative way of beefing up this Tourney.
Many folks don't realise that the Structure of the 7.30 Deepie is completely different to that of the 7pm Deepie. I mean totally different - it's much, much, slower, because the Blind Levels increase in such small increments. The 7pm ends in a bit of a shove-fest, but the 7.30 can go on for an age, & the Final often takes wll over an hour, 90 minutes even. It's beautifully structured - if you like that sort of poker.
Would this Tourney garner more support if it were reduced to £10?
We can have whatever we want - we can - but it HAS to have demand. If a Tourney does not attract Runners, the Guarantees will reduce, or disappear, as will the Tourney.
The community asked for a tournament like this, so where are they all?,as you quite rightly say this tourny has a fantastic structure, is a fantastic fantastic training ground not just for new players, but also, if ever you wish to play live (As I understand it live events have long blind structures, having never played live)
Unfortunately, not having the bankroll means I cannot afford to play it, but dosnt mean I dont want these deepies to survive as I think they make us all better players because they teach us restaint.
So come on community, lets get behind it and make it work.
Hi, i presume the £22 is a 6 seater... sorry but i will only play 10 seater deepys... just my personal preference thats all... but understand what u are saying tikay... personally i think that the £22 clashes with the shall we say main deepy what people have already mentioned... maybe even a reduced buy in to something like £15/£17 could attract more runners, and poss a start time of 6pm or thereabouts, maybe actually list it in the highlighted mtts...just a thought..... cheers jim;-)
AS was evidenced a few weeks ago, players get emotive & passionate - very passionate - about whether they prefer 6 Seaters or 10 Seaters. Personally, I'm not that fussed either way - 6 or 10, it's not THAT much different - but folks seem to be divided into two distinct & opposing camps.
I'd play the 7.30 structure if it were 6 OR 10.
Alwars remember, the Structure in the 7pm Deepie is much, much, faster, & it plays totally different.
Each to their own, thats good. For my own game, I could pretty much guarantee to Final in the 7.30 4 nights out of 6. In the 7pm, well, one Final in 5 is about as good as I can realistically hope for.
The slower the structure, the less that luck plays a part.
It needs to be £10 or less.
It also needs to be 10 seater IMO (maybe it already is?)
Tikay can you elucidate the structure of the 19:30 Deepie?
This highlights some issues:
How can we see a tournament structure & seats per table before we decide to sign up?
The description usually only shows the starting stacks & blind levels.
All the best.
I knew with the dwindling number of runners that a reduction to £300 GTD was inevitable and i would actually like to thank sky for the overlay they have provided over the last few nights because they could have taken this decision much sooner...
I think a reduction of the buy in from £22 to £11 is worth a try to encourage more runners. I personally dont mind if it is a 6 or 10 seater.
I would also like to echo what Uzi said about this being a super tournament and with some top quality players in it. I have really enjoyed playing this over the last 3 months or so and it has improved my game no end... I actually folded QQ pre flop last night, it was the correct fold and i made the ft! I could never have done that a few months back...
Long live the deepies
As Tikay said we only had 15 last night... But if you are looking for a nice long tourney with a great chance to cash this is the best on the site... Reason being:-...
6 Players paid Guarenteed every night (so around 1 in 3 chance to cash atm)
Generally the same faces so you can build up "reads" on player.
Very friendly as all the players know each other by now
now get this from last night......!!!
It took 1 Hour 20 Minutes to lose out FIRST .. yes FIRST!! Player...
The value is staring you in the face, but everyone is turning their backs on it.
Some terrific Posts in this Thread, bear wirth me, & I'll reply to them all.
Sky Poker will give us what we want - it's in their interests to. But they won't continue offer Guarantees in Tourneys which don't "cover" - they have no need when a fast-structured 9pm Tourney sells out most nights.
So, if enough players say "let's make it a Tenner" (or whatever), then Sky will give it to us.
It was the Players who asked for the £22 Deepie, & we all thought it would be popular. It's not been the case though. Ultimately, the Players choose what tournaments they want, & Sky Poker will put them on. And if Players don't support them, Sky Poker will not support those "failed" Tourneys.
So it's up to us.
Use this Thread to voice your view, & I'll make sure the Suits see it.
I brought this subject up a few weeks ago regarding this tournament and the main problem seemed to be the cost for most players.
Totally agree with TK that its by far the best structured tournament on the site. Please don't let the tournament die it would be a real shame.
1 night a week dedicate a segment in the show to some hands, instead of showing Velocity.
Maybe TK could record a small 5 minute segment explaining the strategy of the tournie in more detail, and have that in place of the In Poker interviews.
I agree that the reduction of the BI to £11 would be a positive step.
I rarely play in the 7.30 as I don't feel that the payout struture justifys a £22 entry. Especially when the field is gonna be very tough. Rather have cash tables up tbf, however if the BI was reduced, which attracted more runners, then I would be interested.
also i cant multitable with my set up and i really like the 7pm games that do have a reasonable field and are great fun to play--maybe some tv promotion by yourself would do the trick--a short ad with your take on the structure differences would do the trick i think
i will be giving this tourney another shot--just that set over set put me off for a bit as it is a big buy in for me--but i do feel it is worth it really and should stay a higher buy in ---good luck
Unfortunetly as much as id love to be in these type of tournament i dont have a BR that allows it. Anyways Tikay i hope you can keep it running, so that i can eventually get into one.
If you can't currently manage the 7.30 £22 Deepie, remember there are deepies every hour at 15 minute past, & these vary from (I think) £2.20 to £5.50.
And every night at 7pm there is a Deepie, which ranges from £3.30 & £5.50, up to £11.
But there are some useful ideas on this Thread, so let's all pull tiogether to try & find the solution.
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The problem might be that they say that the top of the Lobby is reserved for Tourneys which have wide appeal - & right now, the 7.30 Deepie does not.
But no harm in asking!
I don't do give up. Hence this Thread!
Bad news about the guarantee but was inevitable I suppose, maybe drop the buy in and attract a few more players to the best game on the site.