Sky Community Charity Tournament

67Bhoys

Hi All,

as those of you whom I had the pleasure of meeting at Nottingham will know, I am interested in setting up a Sky Community Charity Tournament.

The feedback I received from those I spoke to was positive, therefore I would like to propose that we as a community could run such a tournament once a month.

I would love to hear from you all regarding any ideas of how this should be structured and run.   A few of my ideas are as follows.

The tournament would be a small buy in to encourage all levels of individual players to participate, I was thinking around £2, with he buy in going to charity.   I have discussed this with Tikay and Richard and both seem more than willing to donate some tournament entries for the prize winners.  

I would like the teams that play the DTD on Mondays to participate in this event as teams, with the winning team nominating the Charity to receive the donations.   To be fair to the smaller teams, I would also like to propose that over the course of a certain period, each teams nominated charity receives at least one donation.

I would appreciate if you could let me know if this might be a feasible idea.  

Any ideas that you may have for the tournament structure, buy in, individual competition, team competition and distribution of charitable funds, please post them on this thread.

IRISHROVER

Excellent idea ,

deepstack £2.20 buy in ,

i think winner should  decide which charity  the funds go to ,
scrap team idea .

skypoker through the help of the 20p rake provides free entry prizes for final table players .

Denis .

p.s let me know when you want me to spam lol .

DOHHHHHHH

If I were to suggest something like this I'd use the already popular DTD format to base it on. 

If sky could sort it out so that a single click registration via the lobby, for a fee of £6, automatically registers you for the three DTD events. 

That means an extra 50p from each participant in DTD per week. (I'm sure that players wont mind paying an extra 50p a week, as there is already massive added value in the comp itself in the form of tourny entries for the weekly and monthly winners)

So thats 2.20 + 2.20 + 1.10 + 50p, with the 50p from each contestant going into the charity 'pot' which would result in a weekly £50 (approx) sum going to charity.

This would be in-keeping with the spirit of the DTD tournament, and the players that play and run it. 

It will only enhance the tournaments reputation, and attract even more players as it continues to grow. 

67Bhoys

In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament:

If I were to suggest something like this I'd use the already popular DTD format to base it on.  If sky could sort it out so that a single click registration via the lobby, for a fee of £6, automatically registers you for the three DTD events.  That means an extra 50p from each participant in DTD per week. (I'm sure that players wont mind paying an extra 50p a week, as there is already massive added value in the comp itself in the form of tourny entries for the weekly and monthly winners) So thats 2.20 + 2.20 + 1.10 + 50p, with the 50p from each contestant going into the charity 'pot' which would result in a weekly £50 (approx) sum going to charity. This would be in-keeping with the spirit of the DTD tournament, and the players that play and run it.  It will only enhance the tournaments reputation, and attract even more players as it continues to grow. 
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Thoughtful idea as ever JJ, I am quite liking your thinking on this.

debdobs_67

Yeah jj's idea here IS very good imo

YOUNG_GUN

either idea is good for me

unknown_username

If the implimentation of JJ's idea is at all possible - then I think it would be hard to better imo.

Nice one JJ

Once we have a little more input suggestions etc, it will be good to here skys thoughts on how and whether we could implement this easily.

Would the charitable donation be weekly or Monthly at the end of each Forum DTD tourny? thoughts anyone?

HITMAN_RV

In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament:

If the implimentation of JJ's idea is at all possible - then I think it would be hard to better imo. Nice one JJ Once we have a little more input suggestions etc, it will be good to here skys thoughts on how and whether we could implement this easily. Would the charitable donation be weekly or Monthly at the end of each Forum DTD tourny? thoughts anyone?
Posted by POKERTREV

whatever you decide bhoys The HitSquad will support!!

If it makes it easy for you, The monthly team DTD league table could decide, OR a Fresh idea would be good, You decide and am sure ALL Hitsquad will back it!!

AcidMan27

Me and I hope my fellow plonkers will support what ever format is decided.

I'm liking JJ's suggestion with maybe the monthly winner deciding on the charity.

Not sure if it could be implemented though on the software side of things.

MAXALLY

Ok folks, I will play devils advocate here.

I am 110% behind the idea of a community charity tournament and I know it will be fully supported on here.

BUT! even though JJ has come up with a sensible idea and it is only an extra 50p from the punters, I will have to question the legality of it as it could be seen as an involuntary contribution. I am not trying to pour cold water on this but hope players can see where I am coming from.

It is akin from me suggesting all the high roller cash players playing on the tv tables on MC pay an extra 50p per pot.

Just to reiterate, I am fully in support of this idea but think Sky Poker should clarify how it could be run.

DOHHHHHHH

With my idea, it would only be an option for players to auto reg 3 tournys in 1 go, thus chipping in 50p to the charity pot.

The individual lobbys would still be available for players to reg for 1, 2, or all 3 of the tournys individually, and could still take part in DTD without anyone knowing any different....

There would be no pressure on anyone to pay anything more than they would like to.

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The good thing about my idea (imo), and the reason I suggested it, is that everything is already in place for it to be an immediate success. The competition is already superbly run, everyone knows their own roles, (hitman with the results, team captains, players, organisers, etc etc).

All that needs to be added is the "multi reg" facility, and for sky to calculate the total added rake on the £6 buy in, which would take like 2 minutes.

AcidMan27

I think it would have to be like JJ said, have a seperate link for all of the dtd tournaments in one place but with the extra 50p. Then state about the charitable donation there too, maybe it could just be posted in the dtd thread on here instead of actually in the lobby.

Then nobody is forced into donating.

Like I said though, i'm unsure if any of this would be possible with the software.

MRBURNS4

I think it is a very good idea, just also to think about is for the charity to get the full amount of money if maybe the technical department could draw up a agreement of a  gift aid form, by doing this it means the charity would get the TAX back. If it was done via the idea of a optional one button entry to the torny maybe a box could just pop up there and you tick it.

Not trying to complicate things but I am keen if we do this for the charties to fully benifit.

Any ideas on which charirty would get the money? Could I kick off suggestion of maybe some of the smaller charties that find it so hard to get funds, being selfish I will throw in www.ouchuk.org which is a charity for helping a rare condition called cluster headaches (which I am a chronic suffer)

leon621

i like dohh's idea. I really like the thought of a solely charitable game even more though. £1-2 buy in no rake but an optional donanation box instead. 1st place gets 50% 2nd 30% and 3rd 20% to the charity of their choice

waller02

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i like dohh's idea. I really like the thought of a solely charitable game even more though. £1-2 buy in no rake but an optional donanation box instead. 1st place gets 50% 2nd 30% and 3rd 20% to the charity of their choice
Posted by leon621

+1, i think i prefer the idea of having a separate charity game too but i am more than willing to participate in whatever is decided

loonytoons

This sort of thing has been banded about before, and like MAXALLY i would participate in this type of game, however Tikay has said on many occasions (and i don't know the legalities of it all) that its a minefield for sky to get involved with this sort of venture, but as i said good luck, i will enter, but it may not come to fruition.

bornablade

In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament:

Ok folks, I will play devils advocate here. I am 110% behind the idea of a community charity tournament and I know it will be fully supported on here. BUT! even though JJ has come up with a sensible idea and it is only an extra 50p from the punters, I will have to question the legality of it as it could be seen as an involuntary contribution. I am not trying to pour cold water on this but hope players can see where I am coming from. It is akin from me suggesting all the high roller cash players playing on the tv tables on MC pay an extra 50p per pot. Just to reiterate, I am fully in support of this idea but think Sky Poker should clarify how it could be run.
Posted by MAXALLY

Surely it could be set up as "The charity Buy in" where the extra 50p goes to a charity. Anyone not wishing to donate this way could just reg for each dtd tourny individually??

I'd be up for it, think it's an excellent idea.

Would also be willing to play a small buy in tourny with ALL moneys going to charity, winner gets to choose which charity gets the donation?

Any2Suited

Great idea and surely as long as sky state clearly in the terms and conditions about the charitable rake , it should get over any legalities.Good luck with this one.

tiercel

I think the charity should be decided in advance and go to something everyone agrees is worthwhile - Children in Need ( and it would do the Skypoker community no harm to present a cheque on the big night )- Disaster relief or similar. I would slightly resent entering to find the winner deciding that my money goes to the local dogs home or whatever . And a  target always produces a better result than otherwise.
 As for the formatt - keep it simple and cheap and make it a rebuy to encourage more entries who can then decide how much they want to contribute at each stage. 

tiercel

 Or even a survivor on the same principle  .


n Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament:

I think the charity should be decided in advance and go to something everyone agrees is worthwhile - Children in Need ( and it would do the Skypoker community no harm to present a cheque on the big night )- Disaster relief or similar. I would slightly resent entering to find the winner deciding that my money goes to the local dogs home or whatever . And a  target always produces a better result than otherwise.  As for the formatt - keep it simple and cheap and make it a rebuy to encourage more entries who can then decide how much they want to contribute at each stage. 
Posted by tiercel

67Bhoys

Thanks all for your suggestions.  Some good ideas from the community as always.

Totally agree that the contributions should be voluntary, hence my idea for a seperate tournament.  I am not averse to a voluntary element being attached to the DTD, but think it only fair to consult Michael and Chris on this, as I don't want to be seen to be hijacking their competition.

I still haven't heard from anyone from Sky if this idea will be feasible, as I know there will be some legalities to sort out, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Keep the suggestions coming folk.

scorpio13

I hope this great idea takes off and will support any final decision

unknown_username

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I hope this great idea takes off and will support any final decision
Posted by scorpio13

+1

67Bhoys

In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament:

I think the charity should be decided in advance and go to something everyone agrees is worthwhile - Children in Need ( and it would do the Skypoker community no harm to present a cheque on the big night )- Disaster relief or similar. I would slightly resent entering to find the winner deciding that my money goes to the local dogs home or whatever . And a  target always produces a better result than otherwise.  As for the formatt - keep it simple and cheap and make it a rebuy to encourage more entries who can then decide how much they want to contribute at each stage. 
Posted by tiercel

I am not averse to this idea to be fair, as long as the community all have a say on which Charity to support and agree on it.

I still prefer a charitable fund that would support several charities, but that is just my personal opinion.

pilgrim07

In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament:

I think the charity should be decided in advance and go to something everyone agrees is worthwhile - Children in Need ( and it would do the Skypoker community no harm to present a cheque on the big night )- Disaster relief or similar. I would slightly resent entering to find the winner deciding that my money goes to the local dogs home or whatever . And a  target always produces a better result than otherwise.  As for the formatt - keep it simple and cheap and make it a rebuy to encourage more entries who can then decide how much they want to contribute at each stage. 
Posted by tiercel

                       

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FlyingDagg

There was a thread a bit ago where someone suggested  a tournament for a certain  charity. Tikay pointed out that Sky already have designated charities that they support and that they wouldn't want to "compromise", for lack of a better word, their position. I know some of the ideas on this thread are slightly different and I would support it if it came to fruition but I foresee a problem. What if someone wanted to donate but didn't want to play all 3 DTD tourneys or indeed any? There are lots of players on here who specialize eg. cash, MTTs, Bhs, SnGs, DYMs etc.Maybe the answer would be to keep it simple and stick a donate button on every players account page

Tikay10

In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament:

Thanks all for your suggestions.  Some good ideas from the community as always. Totally agree that the contributions should be voluntary, hence my idea for a seperate tournament.  I am not averse to a voluntary element being attached to the DTD, but think it only fair to consult Michael and Chris on this, as I don't want to be seen to be hijacking their competition. I still haven't heard from anyone from Sky if this idea will be feasible, as I know there will be some legalities to sort out, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Keep the suggestions coming folk.
Posted by 67Bhoys

Morning, Sir.

I know this was widely discussed at Nottingham, & I certainly said I would help, personally, in any way I can, & in fact I committed to making an appropriate donation, & I stand by that.

The position as to the Company - Sky Poker - becoming involved - is much, much, more complex, & difficult. I think Maxally's Post summed that area up pretty well.

"still not heard from Sky".  After we discussed this in Nottingham, you wrote to me - & 7 others - on Monday of last week, & you wrote to me again on Friday. (Apologies, I was offline Friday & Saturday). I will try & reply to all the PM's as soon as I can, & apologise for the delay. You may be interested to know that last week alone, SEVENTEEN different players sent me ideas/proposals for "Community based" Tournaments or Promotions, these came to me via PM's, e-Mails, even texts, & it really is a job to try & keep pace with all these, splendid as they are. Please bear with me, & I'll reply to them all soonest.

As to your wonderful idea, as I said before, yes, I will definitely donate, & help, in any way I can. 

unknown_username

Hi Tikay.
On behalf of the community, I would like to thank you for your response.

You are always very helpful and supportive of the community even in times of adversity, so for this we thank you. To be honest i'm very surprised you find the time to get through half of the things you do as I have no doubt it can be a very hectic task at times.

I hope you will agree that some of the suggestions for a "Charity Tournament" have been very good, however, I think we are all aware that put into practice, this is not so simple, but hopefully at some point achievable.

Obviously it needs a good brain storming session as to the practicalities and the legalities of putting on this type of event, but hopefully given time we will be able to move things forward in a progressive manor.

In the meantime, thank you very much for your welcomed support.

Regards
Pokertrev

67Bhoys

In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament:

In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament : Morning, Sir. I know this was widely discussed at Nottingham, & I certainly said I would help, personally, in any way I can, & in fact I committed to making an appropriate donation, & I stand by that. The position as to the Company - Sky Poker - becoming involved - is much, much, more complex, & difficult. I think Maxally's Post summed that area up pretty well. "still not heard from Sky".  After we discussed this in Nottingham, you wrote to me - & 7 others - on Monday of last week, & you wrote to me again on Friday. (Apologies, I was offline Friday & Saturday). I will try & reply to all the PM's as soon as I can, & apologise for the delay. You may be interested to know that last week alone, SEVENTEEN different players sent me ideas/proposals for "Community based" Tournaments or Promotions, these came to me via PM's, e-Mails, even texts, & it really is a job to try & keep pace with all these, splendid as they are. Please bear with me, & I'll reply to them all soonest. As to your wonderful idea, as I said before, yes, I will definitely donate, & help, in any way I can. 
Posted by Tikay10

Thanks for your reply Tikay, I understand that there are certain pitfalls and legalities on the Sky side for implementing this Idea. 

I hope that you have had time to read some of the suggestions on this thread, and would appreciate your or Skys thoughts on them.

I agree with Trev that it might require a bit of brainstorming to bring some of these ideas to fruition.  As I stated in a previous post, I like JJ's Idea of a voluntary button for the DTD, but would certainly not want to be seen to be hijacking Chris and Michaels baby.

I think we have a great community here on Sky and would like to thank everyone who I have spoken to personaly and who have posted on this thread for their support. 

GaryQQQ

Excellent idea, I hope this one gets off the ground in one form or another.

Grave

hi all loving the ideas being thrown about but being new and only started recently posting on forums i have absolutely no idea how to contribute with ideas or how to even start this so i wont pretend to know, i would however like to say being one of the smaller unknown players not in any team who plays alot of mtt's, b/h, satalites and recently joined the dtd mondays i would gladly pay an extra 50p a week for the milti entry or whatever way its set up if this charity idea takes off