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potters186potters186
edited November 2011 in Poker Chat
hi guys ive been back for a week since a break .with a 800 pound bank roll what is the best stake to be playing mtts .also what limit on cash tables many thanks ...
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  • SoLackSoLack
    edited November 2011
    Play the high roller tonight imo  If you don't bink it stick to £5/£10 cash
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  • MeloPeteMeloPete
    edited November 2011
    I am a low stakes player and I'm confused. When poker "experts" say you should only risk 2-5% of your bankroll at any one time do they actually mean this? I have deposited a few times and gone broke a few times but each time I have only deposited £25. I then play the DTD events and have managed to build my bankroll to £150 over the last month or so by playing mainly £2-£3 entry fees and a few satellites. Risking 10-15% of your BR on one event or one buy-in at a cash table seems to conflict with most peoples advice but I am no expert.

    Am I doing things the right way or am i being a bit too cautious?
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    I am a low stakes player and I'm confused. When poker "experts" say you should only risk 2-5% of your bankroll at any one time do they actually mean this? I have deposited a few times and gone broke a few times but each time I have only deposited £25. I then play the DTD events and have managed to build my bankroll to £150 over the last month or so by playing mainly £2-£3 entry fees and a few satellites. Risking 10-15% of your BR on one event or one buy-in at a cash table seems to conflict with most peoples advice but I am no expert. Am I doing things the right way or am i being a bit too cautious?
    Posted by MeloPete
    lol. yes!!!

    If you've build 25 quid up to 150+ a few times and then ended back at zero, you're probably not being cautious enough!!
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited November 2011
    Hi mate , if ure bankroll is £800 its gonna depend on what level ure gonna be 'comfortable' playing , for instance ure rolled ok to play 15/30 cash level but depending on how gd you feel ure game is then you may feel that 5/10 or 10/20 is better for ya.

    If ya decide that 15/30 is ok then set aside 20 buy-ins = £600 and use the other £200 for mtt's sticking to buy-ins of £5-£10

    If ure a decentish player then you should be able to build on this as ure cash play profits can help to fund bigger mtt's or sats into these bigger games.

    Gl at the tables

    debs xx
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  • MeloPeteMeloPete
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : lol. yes!!! If you've build 25 quid up to 150+ a few times and then ended back at zero, you're probably not being cautious enough!!
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    just wondered if you can read? Thanks for the educational and informative response. Gone down to zero twice in 4years after withdrawing money and leaving a little behind. I asked a serious question and this is the kind of response I get? Can anyone sensible tell me : should you be risking more than 5% of your bankroll at a time??
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : just wondered if you can read? Thanks for the educational and informative response. Gone down to zero twice in 4years after withdrawing money and leaving a little behind. I asked a serious question and this is the kind of response I get? Can anyone sensible tell me : should you be risking more than 5% of your bankroll at a time??
    Posted by MeloPete
    No you should'nt be risking more than 5% of ure bankroll at any one time.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited November 2011
    My answer was 100% serious.

    How can you interpret it any other way?


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  • MeloPeteMeloPete
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    My answer was 100% serious. How can you interpret it any other way?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Err. because you say "yes" i am being too cautious and then "no" I'm not being cautious enough.

    So unless you have a split-personality disorder you contradicted yourself. Anyway, no worries, I think what I'm doing is correct so won't bother asking in future, cheers
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : No you should'nt be risking more than 5% of ure bankroll at any one time.
    Posted by debdobs_67
    He asked for someone sensible Debs!!! :)

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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited November 2011
    To answer the OP, I would play mtts up to 22 quid (the open)- but i would try to sat in obv,

    ....and cash up to 20/30nl

    I dont believe in any 5% rule btw, if you are recreational player, play with what u can afford to lose and have fun!!

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  • MeloPeteMeloPete
    edited November 2011
    Thankyou debdobs_67 for a straight forward answer
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : He asked for someone sensible Debs!!! :)
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    I apologise ;))
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  • goodylad21goodylad21
    edited November 2011
    I never have more than 1% of my BR in play.....but im tight as a crabs botty.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    Thankyou debdobs_67 for a straight forward answer
    Posted by MeloPete
    You got a straightforward answer from Dohhhhhhh you just didnt like it!
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  • AcidMan27AcidMan27
    edited November 2011


    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : Err. because you say "yes" i am being too cautious and then "no" I'm not being cautious enough. So unless you have a split-personality disorder you contradicted yourself. Anyway, no worries, I think what I'm doing is correct so won't bother asking in future, cheers
    Posted by MeloPete
    I think DOHHHHHHHH said yes to the part where you asked do experts mean this.
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  • MeloPeteMeloPete
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : You got a straightforward answer from Dohhhhhhh you just didnt like it!
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    How is it straightforward when someone says "YES" and "NO"? Please read his reply and see if it makes sense. It doesn't matter to me if someone gives me advice I don't like, unlike a large number of better known players on this site I don't need my ego polished, I appreciate constructive advice from players who obviously know the game better than me and are willing to help me to learn all aspects of the game
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  • MeloPeteMeloPete
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : I think DOHHHHHHHH said yes to the part where you asked do pro's mean this.
    Posted by AcidMan27
    Thankyou Captain.

    See you on the tables on Monday
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  • MeloPeteMeloPete
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : I think DOHHHHHHHH said yes to the part where you asked do pro's mean this.
    Posted by AcidMan27
    Thankyou Captain.

    See you on the tables on Monday
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  • kb245kb245
    edited November 2011
    if u are losing £150 quickly u must have lost alot of £2 games or u are not sticking to your own rules.and if u get the hump by someones correct answer and then decide you are right anyway.i wouldnt even bother asking! if u want my opinion i would say 10% is way to much if u are a losing player. your bank roll will not last very long y not try 2% which would give u about 50 games for your money and u would be able to allow for the variance of winning and losing without going broke. try reading john connors post or someone elses it will give u a good idea on managing your bank roll etc.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : How is it straightforward when someone says "YES" and "NO"? Please read his reply and see if it makes sense. It doesn't matter to me if someone gives me advice I don't like, unlike a large number of better known players on this site I don't need my ego polished, I appreciate constructive advice from players who obviously know the game better than me and are willing to help me to learn all aspects of the game
    Posted by MeloPete
    Is it even possible to get anymore straight forward than yes & no?


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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited November 2011

    Pete,

    In your original question, you didnt actually state what % of your bankroll you are currently risking.

    Dohhh said that the 2-5% was correct according to then Pros.

    He then said that as you have busted your roll perhaps you are not being cautious enough.

    Pretty straightforward imo

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  • GlenelgGlenelg
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : Err. because you say "yes" i am being too cautious and then "no" I'm not being cautious enough. So unless you have a split-personality disorder you contradicted yourself. Anyway, no worries, I think what I'm doing is correct so won't bother asking in future, cheers
    Posted by MeloPete
    Hi  Melopete, (cool name BTW!)  If you re-read Doh's reply he was answering the 2 x questions you posed..
     1. When poker "experts" say you should only risk 2-5% of your bankroll at any one time do they actually mean this?  Doh replied YES
     And, 2. Am I doing things the right way or am i being a bit too cautious? He answered NO.

    FWIW I think the 5% prob relates to the players who are "pro/semi-pro" and playing cash.  For the recreational player, like myself, I put in £25 and just play whatever takes my fancy in order to learn the game. 
    GL Pad
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  • MeloPeteMeloPete
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    if u are losing £150 quickly u must have lost alot of £2 games or u are not sticking to your own rules.and if u get the hump by someones correct answer and then decide you are right anyway.i wouldnt even bother asking! if u want my opinion i would say 10% is way to much if u are a losing player. your bank roll will not last very long y not try 2% which would give u about 50 games for your money and u would be able to allow for the variance of winning and losing without going broke. try reading john connors post or someone elses it will give u a good idea on managing your bank roll etc.
    Posted by kb245
    Losing £150 twice over a period of 4 years doesn't seem too bad to me.  I wasn't getting the hump with DOHHHH, I just misinterpretted his answer as "yes i was being too cautious" at the start of his reply and "no, i wasn't being cautious enough" at the end. I now understand he meant "yes" to the percentages and "no" beacuse I said I had gone broke a couple of times. Apologies to DOHHHHH if I offended him with my subsequent replies. I am only a recreational player and usually use 2-5% which seems to be the consensus of opinion. Thankyou for the advice, I'll give JohnConnors Post a read. In summary, thankyou everyone who has given constructive advice and hopefully see you all on the low-limit tables soon. GL all
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    Pete, In your original question, you didnt actually state what % of your bankroll you are currently risking. Dohhh said that the 2-5% was correct according to then Pros. He then said that as you have busted your roll perhaps you are not being cautious enough. Pretty straightforward imo
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    THIS
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  • kb245kb245
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : Losing £150 twice over a period of 4 years doesn't seem too bad to me.  I wasn't getting the hump with DOHHHH, I just misinterpretted his answer as "yes i was being too cautious" at the start of his reply and "no, i wasn't being cautious enough" at the end. I now understand he meant "yes" to the percentages and "no" beacuse I said I had gone broke a couple of times. Apologies to DOHHHHH if I offended him with my subsequent replies. I am only a recreational player and usually use 2-5% which seems to be the consensus of opinion. Thankyou for the advice, I'll give JohnConnors Post a read. In summary, thankyou everyone who has given constructive advice and hopefully see you all on the low-limit tables soon. GL all
    Posted by MeloPete
    you didnt mention about 4 years before.perhaps if u give the proper details u would get better advice??
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  • AcidMan27AcidMan27
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : you didnt mention about 4 years before.perhaps if u give the proper details u would get better advice??
    Posted by kb245

    He mentioned it in a later post to be fair.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : He mentioned it in a later post to be fair.
    Posted by AcidMan27
    A very BIG +1 to this , i see regularly posts from people who only read a BIT of and not ALL of the thread.
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  • kb245kb245
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : A very BIG +1 to this , i see regularly posts from people who only read a BIT of and not ALL of the thread.
    Posted by debdobs_67
    well worth mentioning. now go back to ur knitting and ironing.!!!!!!
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : A very BIG +1 to this , i see regularly posts from people who only read a BIT of and not ALL of the thread.
    Posted by debdobs_67

    156th Please
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: bankroll:
    In Response to Re: bankroll : well worth mentioning. now go back to ur knitting and ironing.!!!!!!
    Posted by kb245
    Yes its true this DOES need to be done , unlike ureself as ure mummy obv does this before ya come home from school.

    Oh and yes i am being a sarcastic B * T C H
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