settle a debate. Staddling +EV or -EV

TommyD

In Response to Re: settle a debate. Staddling +EV or -EV:

i think ive actually learnt something. ty guys. Scotty/tommy/tikay very good responces. As well as others on page 2. Ive literally just woken up so will have a proper read through again when i can absorb. The game i usually straddle in is a local .50p/.50p game usually get a lot of fish and about an hour in your looking at most players being deep. Also im not the only straddler. Ty for responces.
Posted by The_Don90

When Phil Ivey is in the hand as the straddle, it's still -ev for him on that hand.  As I said earlier, the only advantage to straddling comes when everyone, and I do mean everyone, agrees to straddle.  It's pure maths, more money in the middle, more people playing incorrectly out of the now three sets of blinds out of position.  Got to agree with Tikay re:  The fish comment.  I have never called anyone a fish.  When I started I used the word donk a couple of times under my breath and frankly I was out of order.  Also just labelling them 'fish' doesn't help you, focus on if they are too laggy, passive, maniac-like etc.  I only know of one player who can play at the top level by just calling people either 'good' or, ahem, not good (The Camel uses another term for the later category but as I'm not GregHogg I won't be saying it online).

TommyD

Oh and quintuple straddles are really -ev.  Found out the hard way.

The_Don90

when i say fish i mean most of them cant lay down a draw. Tbh the casino also runs a 1/2 game and a 2/5 game which the better players play. Id love to be able to play in those but tbh ive sat and watched and i see no value in them anyways.