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Thats why I think its so pathetic to attack the way he does.
He's like a kid throwing his weight around in the park.
Easier to say nothing than his standard attacks. Easier to spread those attacks evenly.
Most amusingly, his attacks are based on not understanding the thread, because he doesnt bother to read it properly.
Your an idiot.
But that is not, nor has ever been, the case.
Your also saying its never right to fold AK pre.
Your also referring back to a post from over 4 months ago which is beyond childish.
I think an argument can easily be made for limping AK UTG at an uber aggressive table. But when there are 4 effective stacks allin in I think we can find an argument to fold rather than be forced to win a 5way aipf race at showdown. Both hold merit and reasonable debate.
I believe we can find logic for both. Only an egomaniac would say otherwise. Only a certain type of character acts the way you have in an open debate.
For the record, I never implied, given reads that Opponent fills up on river in this hand. I was commenting on the only hands we could be worried about, leaving it open for replies.
Good luck in the future but I'd rather you didnt take the time to post on threads I put up if you feel this strongly about it. You'll have to get your kicks elsewhere.
Yeah I mean that sounds like me, right? I offer no reasoning or back up for the way I'd approach a certain spot......................................................................
"I dont want to go all in"
omfg is this still goin on ??
Will it ever end ??
As i stated earlier if ya wanna go busto then my advice on hands is unbeatable
When we have isolated a full ring table to one player HU, through streets isnt that what we should be aiming to do? With every bet and call on each street should we not be looking to get a handle on the range of hands our opponent will play? Adapting our bet sizes accordingly, with the added time that live allows us?
Of course I dont have a solid read on every pot I play, but equally I dont post every hand I play. I post maybe one clinic hand a fortnight, based on a particularly tricky/interesting live hand out of hundreds. I think the main reason I do this, is to see how people I talk to frequently in here would have played the hand through streets. But it is very very rarely readless. Most of the games I go to are played by giant fish, I cant change that, but with a few solid players. Its not hard to get a handle on the way they'd play certain spots and their aggression factors. But, yes mostly I'm just putting a bet out there that gets called by a wide range of hands.
On the other issue of sitting in this particulartype of game and not being prepared to get it in with the AK:
When you put it that way I guess you are right. If we are willing to play at that table then we cant be shy about getting it in. But equally, can we not argue that the table isnt going to be breaking up for hours, do we need to get it in here? I think we can and its fine, but I dont believe that folding is definatevely wrong either. If we had any other way to win but racing 4 allins and winning at showdown its in in a heartbeat..
Folding has nothing to do with my fear of people getting lucky or running bad. Do you think I dont know the math side of the game??? Again if you read a more varied source of my posts you'd realise how far this was from the truth.
That particular fold was simply not wanting to race 100+BB's vs 4 non dominated hands when I'm calling off pre, with 1BB invested. Its not a MUST call. The players arent going anywhere, they'll still be getting their money in bad + there will be spots to extract value in much sure fire spots. If I can rejam to thin the field it goes in outcome regardless. But I dont like stationing it off.
Plus I dont really want to play 1BI behind this early. Which you can insult all you like, but there's nothing wrong with refusing to take a multi way flip while and keeping our game centered.
getting it in +ev is surely our only concern, and v a table of "any two card" players then there's not much to think about
replace AK with QQ we are only doing one thing, with AK we do the same on this table - if oppo has draw and you have TPTK - get it in
Sometimes there is a tendancy to try and outplay our poorer opponents when infact they will help you win by taking -ev spots on a regular basis. So the need to outhink them is not required, get it in infront +ev - take there money
PM a link for your thread. Must be worth a read.
bet more on flop. If his range is Kx (excluding AK) or spade draw then getting it in is going to be pretty profitable unless you think he folds some Kx, I would doubt he does though once he c/r. If you decide to call rather than get it in it should be because you think its more profitable than sticking it in, not to avoid a spot where you are prob about a 70/30 favourite. Dont see why he cant have 77 or 22 here though
When you bet turn you have to be willing to stack imo, unless you have reads he only leads monsters on river. If you are not happy about this check back turn. On river the hand I would be most worried about is Asxs but no way I fold
As to the abuse, both beaneh and yourself should know better. There may be some things regarding strat in his posts that you should think about imo, thats not to say the personal abuse either of you posted is acceptable
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