Gents, It's really not right to openly discuss, or even question, why an individual, in this case peg1, spends his money. By all means discuss the logic of Russian Roulette, but starting a thread about a particular individual is very wrong. It's his money, he can spend it as he wishes, & he should not be subject to the scrutiny of other players discussing it on a public Forum. Recently, a guy who had THE worst Sharkscope stats & graph ever was "exposed" on this forum. That is not in anyone's interest. Think about it....... Thanks. Posted by Tikay10
In Response to Re: peg1 play russian roulette : Ok understood tikay, was never the intention to rubbish someones stats just doing some calcs out loud although rr is not a true indicator of someones poker ability. I'll delete my thread. Away win at swansea would be good, especially after spurs drew yest. Posted by ACEGOONER
There was a wall of golden shirts yesterday, they didnt just bring a bus, they brought a whole fleet.
Good Luck breaking Swansea down too, I doubt you will win cos the Welsh will use sheep to block the goal imo
In Response to Re: peg1 play russian roulette : Ok understood tikay, was never the intention to rubbish someones stats just doing some calcs out loud although rr is not a true indicator of someones poker ability. I'll delete my thread. Away win at swansea would be good, especially after spurs drew yest. Posted by ACEGOONER
to all
you are all missing the point here - i use russian roulette to boost my c4p - this month to reach a target I set - as you all know i am a big cash player , and an intelligent head on my shoulders. I make sure I make a profit each month on poker - and generally I do
most of my points come from cash and HU
oNLY CASH on 6 max - counts on the league table - HU play does not but does boost your c4p and profit - i play alot of HU
Do you REALLY think i would lose thousands of pounds playing RR - I do not think so - I track all my winnings and losses every day - while I am on target this month to get to my targets and remember I have been in priority club for nearly 2 years so I get a further increase in value of my points - then I will continue - If I go behind in my targets ie losing money against what I will get over the month then I will stop - PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
On SHARKSCOPE - Not always a true picture - and as some of the railers have a go at big cash players - SHARKSCOPE does not include Cash winnings or live play winnings or RR winnings
Makes me laugh when people complain about me playing RR - but every games gets played - SO AM I PLAYING MYSELF or ARE OTHER PEOLPE PLAYING - HMMMM
Agree with TK though - peolpe have thier own ways of playing and it is there money - I do pretty OK so why would it bother anyone else
Anyway good debate but bored now
ps Anyone going to Luton prob be out by level 2 - so Cash games after - PLeaaasee
In Response to Re: peg1 play russian roulette : to all you are all missing the point here - i use russian roulette to boost my c4p - this month to reach a target I set - as you all know i am a big cash player , and an intelligent head on my shoulders. I make sure I make a profit each month on poker - and generally I do most of my points come from cash and HU oNLY CASH on 6 max - counts on the league table - HU play does not but does boost your c4p and profit - i play alot of HU Do you REALLY think i would lose thousands of pounds playing RR - I do not think so - I track all my winnings and losses every day - while I am on target this month to get to my targets and remember I have been in priority club for nearly 2 years so I get a further increase in value of my points - then I will continue - If I go behind in my targets ie losing money against what I will get over the month then I will stop - PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD. On SHARKSCOPE - Not always a true picture - and as some of the railers have a go at big cash players - SHARKSCOPE does not include Cash winnings or live play winnings or RR winnings Makes me laugh when people complain about me playing RR - but every games gets played - SO AM I PLAYING MYSELF or ARE OTHER PEOLPE PLAYING - HMMMM Agree with TK though - peolpe have thier own ways of playing and it is there money - I do pretty OK so why would it bother anyone else Anyway good debate but bored now ps Anyone going to Luton prob be out by level 2 - so Cash games after - PLeaaasee Posted by peg1
What concerns me is you claim to have only lost £85 on rr's which quite frankly isnt true. What you do with your money is your own business, totally agree, however, it should not be construed that this is a good route to binking £3k's worth of electrical goods on the cheap and it should not be put in a context that may encourage other players with smaller bankrolls to emulate what you are trying to acheive.
If you subscibe to scope, there is a tab that says "lottery", which allows you to isolate rr's, you can also custom date your search to see the results. If you meticulously keep records (as an accountant im sure you would) surely you must see this. You say that most of your C4P have been obtained by playing cash, I dont know what your current figures are but i see over 1000 rr's played this month at a min stakes of £30+3.
I posted details of your stats on this thread, it was to show how this isnt a +ve strategy. Tikay instantly asked me to remove the figures which I did. I am more than happy to show you the data I sourced this morning.
I played you at rr this morning, I was bored and there wasnt much action around so I had 1 game. I have used rr previously to get up to points thresholds, this month is different with the new system and as a result I have totally cut down the amount I play these.
Regardless how well he does its Peg's Money so he can do whatever why does it matter??
As pointed out by peggy himself he is clever enough with the figures so im sure he would just stop playing them if they were really harming his bankroll that much.
Still the rest of it has been an interesting discussion, not fair to directly keep pointing out ppl though.
On another note, you shouldnt get points for RR but thats a different matter lol :P
For once have to disagree with Tikay, people are only publishing what is already in the public domain - and speculating on what had intrigued me and obviously a lot of others
In Response to Re: peg1 play russian roulette : to all you are all missing the point here - i use russian roulette to boost my c4p - this month to reach a target I set - as you all know i am a big cash player , and an intelligent head on my shoulders. I make sure I make a profit each month on poker - and generally I do most of my points come from cash and HU oNLY CASH on 6 max - counts on the league table - HU play does not but does boost your c4p and profit - i play alot of HU Do you REALLY think i would lose thousands of pounds playing RR - I do not think so - I track all my winnings and losses every day - while I am on target this month to get to my targets and remember I have been in priority club for nearly 2 years so I get a further increase in value of my points - then I will continue - If I go behind in my targets ie losing money against what I will get over the month then I will stop - PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD. On SHARKSCOPE - Not always a true picture - and as some of the railers have a go at big cash players - SHARKSCOPE does not include Cash winnings or live play winnings or RR winnings Makes me laugh when people complain about me playing RR - but every games gets played - SO AM I PLAYING MYSELF or ARE OTHER PEOLPE PLAYING - HMMMM Agree with TK though - peolpe have thier own ways of playing and it is there money - I do pretty OK so why would it bother anyone else Anyway good debate but bored now ps Anyone going to Luton prob be out by level 2 - so Cash games after - PLeaaasee Posted by peg1
ACEGOONER
1/ I have in no way encouraged people to play this way to obtain C4P - And in no way would I , it is up to each individual
2/ Sharkscope is not a true and accurate tool - I keep my own records and at present I am up on the month - cash included yes - but my C4P payout will be very large
3/ I am amazed how interested you are in what I am doing - are you a stalker ?
4/ You were completley out of order putting other people's data for everyone to read - If I posted for example your bank statements you would sue me - In fact im sure I could do the same
NOT VERY HAPPY PEG1
but still only my point and I can sort of understand your comments - I think
In Response to Re: peg1 play russian roulette : Definitely SHOULD get poker points (that go towards C4P) for this...... paying rake just the same as any other game. Posted by jakally
In Response to Re: peg1 play russian roulette : ACEGOONER 1/ I have in no way encouraged people to play this way to obtain C4P - And in no way would I , it is up to each individual 2/ Sharkscope is not a true and accurate tool - I keep my own records and at present I am up on the month - cash included yes - but my C4P payout will be very large 3/ I am amazed how interested you are in what I am doing - are you a stalker ? 4/ You were completley out of order putting other people's data for everyone to read - If I posted for example your bank statements you would sue me - In fact im sure I could do the same NOT VERY HAPPY PEG1 but still only my point and I can sort of understand your comments - I think Posted by peg1
PEG
1) Point taken and I am pleased you have come out with the DYOR comment.
2) You have I quote said you are £85 down on rr (keep track off my winning and losses as most people prob do, and so far this month I have 48,915 points - up on cash, but down on russian roulette - by £85 ). I read that as you saying you are only down £85 on rr, perhaps you would like to correct me. I know scope is not 100% accurate but to say you are playing thousands of pounds worth of rrs and your net loss is £85 doesnt stack up for me.
3) Dont flatter yourself, I often look at loyalty schemes and see if there are ways of within the rules and spirit of each scheme of obtaining real value eg I have in the past flown first/business class with BA thanks to tescos clubcard scheme for next to no outlay. There are regs on this site that know about this. I am naturally curious about a strategy for getting 60k c4p. I wont do it this time but perhaps next time there are things to be learnt. So when I see something that appears to be an anomaly I am naturally going to query it.
4) If you are talking about protection of data then I think you will find information scope provides is available in the public domain and in anycase sharkscope is not a UK company, so you could not sue an individual or company for breaking data protection laws, I thought a professional would know that.
I will draw a line under this discussion as im sure you agree there isnt a lot more to be said.
Please, guys, the Terms & Conditions of Sharkscope are absolutely clear on this.
"...Material from www.sharkscope.com and any other World Wide website owned, operated, licensed, or controlled by "CJM Solutions, LLC" may not be copied or distributed, or republished, uploaded, posted or transmitted in any way, without the prior written consent of CJM Solutions, LLC......"
Sky Poker support this position, so whether you believe it is in "the public domain" or not, you may NOT reproduce the Sharkscope Stats of other players on here.
Can we now please cease this discussion about how peg chooses to spend him money. Talk all you like about RR's, but not specific to an individual.
Play fair, please guys, & within the Community Rules.
To peg, who, it seems, quite clearly (& reasonably) from his comments, a bit miffed about this thread, apologies.
In Response to Re: peg1 play russian roulette : to all you are all missing the point here - i use russian roulette to boost my c4p - this month to reach a target I set - as you all know i am a big cash player , and an intelligent head on my shoulders. I make sure I make a profit each month on poker - and generally I do most of my points come from cash and HU oNLY CASH on 6 max - counts on the league table - HU play does not but does boost your c4p and profit - i play alot of HU Do you REALLY think i would lose thousands of pounds playing RR - I do not think so - I track all my winnings and losses every day - while I am on target this month to get to my targets and remember I have been in priority club for nearly 2 years so I get a further increase in value of my points - then I will continue - If I go behind in my targets ie losing money against what I will get over the month then I will stop - PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD. On SHARKSCOPE - Not always a true picture - and as some of the railers have a go at big cash players - SHARKSCOPE does not include Cash winnings or live play winnings or RR winnings Makes me laugh when people complain about me playing RR - but every games gets played - SO AM I PLAYING MYSELF or ARE OTHER PEOLPE PLAYING - HMMMM Agree with TK though - peolpe have thier own ways of playing and it is there money - I do pretty OK so why would it bother anyone else Anyway good debate but bored now ps Anyone going to Luton prob be out by level 2 - so Cash games after - PLeaaasee Posted by peg1
you best be clad it`s my wedding anniverary that weekend i`d take all your money,
good luck in your choice off game even for pleasure or c4p we all have our targets, mine are winning every ?? some mtt`s if not cash, if both fail then area 51 for a good old moan, LOL well i can`t have 51`ers thinking i`m winning all the time.
In Response to Re: peg1 play russian roulette : There was a wall of golden shirts yesterday, they didnt just bring a bus, they brought a whole fleet. Good Luck breaking Swansea down too, I doubt you will win cos the Welsh will use sheep to block the goal imo Posted by GREGHOGG
?.I went yesterday and tbh they hit us on the counter attack and could of gone 2 up but they only had 5 at the back and we played poorly to break them down,wp wolves and g/l swansea
In Response to Re: peg1 play russian roulette : PEG 1) Point taken and I am pleased you have come out with the DYOR comment. 2) You have I quote said you are £85 down on rr ( keep track off my winning and losses as most people prob do, and so far this month I have 48,915 points - up on cash, but down on russian roulette - by £85 ). I read that as you saying you are only down £85 on rr, perhaps you would like to correct me. I know scope is not 100% accurate but to say you are playing thousands of pounds worth of rrs and your net loss is £85 doesnt stack up for me. 3) Dont flatter yourself, I often look at loyalty schemes and see if there are ways of within the rules and spirit of each scheme of obtaining real value eg I have in the past flown first/business class with BA thanks to tescos clubcard scheme for next to no outlay. There are regs on this site that know about this. I am naturally curious about a strategy for getting 60k c4p. I wont do it this time but perhaps next time there are things to be learnt. So when I see something that appears to be an anomaly I am naturally going to query it. 4) If you are talking about protection of data then I think you will find information scope provides is available in the public domain and in anycase sharkscope is not a UK company, so you could not sue an individual or company for breaking data protection laws, I thought a professional would know that. I will draw a line under this discussion as im sure you agree there isnt a lot more to be said. Posted by ACEGOONER
Poker Fail's maths stand up to scrutiny as far as I can see. Well spotted that man, nice loophole. Anybody trying it?
Why do some posters here think you cannot win 50% of RR games? If you play a large enough sample you will definitely win very close to 50%, it'll probably fall in the range of 49.9% to 50.1% if you play the 20,000 games required.
Poker Fail's maths stand up to scrutiny as far as I can see. Well spotted that man, nice loophole. Anybody trying it? Why do some posters here think you cannot win 50% of RR games? If you play a large enough sample you will definitely win very close to 50%, it'll probably fall in the range of 49.9% to 50.1% if you play the 20,000 games required. Posted by GaryQQQ
Thanks Gary, like I said though you'd need a big chunk of spare cash as the deposit and 3 months priority, otherwise I would!
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Good Luck breaking Swansea down too, I doubt you will win cos the Welsh will use sheep to block the goal imo
you are all missing the point here - i use russian roulette to boost my c4p - this month to reach a target I set - as you all know i am a big cash player , and an intelligent head on my shoulders. I make sure I make a profit each month on poker - and generally I do
most of my points come from cash and HU
oNLY CASH on 6 max - counts on the league table - HU play does not but does boost your c4p and profit - i play alot of HU
Do you REALLY think i would lose thousands of pounds playing RR - I do not think so - I track all my winnings and losses every day - while I am on target this month to get to my targets and remember I have been in priority club for nearly 2 years so I get a further increase in value of my points - then I will continue - If I go behind in my targets ie losing money against what I will get over the month then I will stop - PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
On SHARKSCOPE - Not always a true picture - and as some of the railers have a go at big cash players - SHARKSCOPE does not include Cash winnings or live play winnings or RR winnings
Makes me laugh when people complain about me playing RR - but every games gets played - SO AM I PLAYING MYSELF or ARE OTHER PEOLPE PLAYING - HMMMM
Agree with TK though - peolpe have thier own ways of playing and it is there money - I do pretty OK so why would it bother anyone else
Anyway good debate but bored now
ps Anyone going to Luton prob be out by level 2 - so Cash games after - PLeaaasee
It is a +ve starategy if you have a very big bankroll (£4k+) as shown in my earlier post.
ACEGOONER
1/ I have in no way encouraged people to play this way to obtain C4P - And in no way would I , it is up to each individual
2/ Sharkscope is not a true and accurate tool - I keep my own records and at present I am up on the month - cash included yes - but my C4P payout will be very large
3/ I am amazed how interested you are in what I am doing - are you a stalker ?
4/ You were completley out of order putting other people's data for everyone to read - If I posted for example your bank statements you would sue me - In fact im sure I could do the same
NOT VERY HAPPY PEG1
but still only my point and I can sort of understand your comments - I think
Please, guys, the Terms & Conditions of Sharkscope are absolutely clear on this.
"...Material from www.sharkscope.com and any other World Wide website owned, operated, licensed, or controlled by "CJM Solutions, LLC" may not be copied or distributed, or republished, uploaded, posted or transmitted in any way, without the prior written consent of CJM Solutions, LLC......"
Sky Poker support this position, so whether you believe it is in "the public domain" or not, you may NOT reproduce the Sharkscope Stats of other players on here.
Can we now please cease this discussion about how peg chooses to spend him money. Talk all you like about RR's, but not specific to an individual.
Play fair, please guys, & within the Community Rules.
To peg, who, it seems, quite clearly (& reasonably) from his comments, a bit miffed about this thread, apologies.
good luck in your choice off game even for pleasure or c4p we all have our targets, mine are winning every ?? some mtt`s if not cash, if both fail then area 51 for a good old moan, LOL well i can`t have 51`ers thinking i`m winning all the time.
Why do some posters here think you cannot win 50% of RR games? If you play a large enough sample you will definitely win very close to 50%, it'll probably fall in the range of 49.9% to 50.1% if you play the 20,000 games required.