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what level of cash do i need to play where its actual poker and not 'lotto'?
At what level of cash do i need to play where its actual poker and not 'lotto'? This is a serious question and not a put down im trying to switch and mix it up abit of cash but im raisin big hands 4x bb and geting a whole table of callers and finding unless its all in pre flop no1 seems to fold lol Currently iv tried 2-4p and 5-10p and its all the same help please
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adz have a read of Dohh's guide to beating small stakes cash games and take it from there.Or alternatively you could play the likes of Scotty77, Lolufold, Lol Raise etc and they do play proper poker,good luck in whatever you choose.
you can win at any level,to be honest.
the hard bit though is working out YOUR best way.
if it was dead easy,where would the challenge be?
as for rather playing someone good and clever
rather than someone bad and lucky?.....
not to sure i would,
as luck both good and bad tends to even itself out,
over the long run.
think you need to stop moaning,
sort it out
and get on with it.....
just saying
devon
ADVISE JUST CHANGE UR GAME SIMPLE.
THE RESON Y PEOPLE CALL THE BIG PRE RAISES IS BECAUSE THEY "THINK IF I HIT TWO PAIR I'LL GET THIS GUYS STACK".
BUT THESE THING DON'T REALLY CHANGE @ HIGHER STAKES BUT I MUST ADMIT THAT THEY ARE
LESS CALLING PRES HIGH UP BUT IF U CAN'T BEAT THE MICROS Y MOVE UP?
MAIN THING IS MAKING SURE UR BANKROLL DEFINES UR STAKE LEVEL, AND CHANGE UR GAME
BTW NORMAL RAISE WITH LIMPERS ARE 4BB+1BB FOR EVERY LIMPER
I disagree - I'd rather play a bad player than a good player any day of the week. Seems fairly obvious to me. If we take on Lolufold & Co, he's gonna bust us pdq.
You need a bigger 'roll to play @ higher levels? The best way to get that roll is to beat the game at the lower levels. I absolutely promise you, if you cannot beat 2p-4p, (no disgrace in itself), you will not be able to beat ANY Level.
You also referred to the players at 2p-4p as "idiots". Probably best to show them a little more respect than that, imo. They may not be the best at poker, but that does not make them "idiots". Sir Clive Sinclair, the multi-millionaire inventor, is, quite possibly, the worst poker player I have ever played - but he is not an idiot, far from it. I might even dare to suggest he is brighter than you & I.......
NL4
don't bluff, don’t get fancy – every raise or bet should be for value
play ABC, bet/raise big - win money
NL4 players are easily exploited by playing your big hands strongly
If you can’t beat NL4 then don’t bother with other levels
As you rise through the levels it’s harder to maximize value, at NL4 it’s easy.
And yes just because someone is not good at poker (Yet), does not make them an idiot.
Change your attitude and win money
Good luck,
He invented the first, practical, slimline hand-held calculator, (the "Sinclair Executive"), the first affordable home PC - the Sinclair Z80 - then, later, the ZX Spectrum. He also developed & patented the "A-Bike", the forerunner of foldaway bicycles. He's a Member of MENSA, too, in fact he was MENSA Chairman for 15 years or more.
We are just having a little fun here, you understand, but I do find it offensive to see people called "idiots" or whatever - it's often far worse - just because they do not excel at poker. Being a lesser skilled poker player does not make them an idiot. We all have strengths & weaknesses, & it behoves us to look in the mirror before berating others. IMO, anyway.....
I'm not a Gliterbabe a Simuk a Beaneh or a Lolufold (to name but a few) by any stretch of the imagination, but I can guarantee you this much, if I move down to NL4/NL8 I would easily beat it and see a profit.
I solid player should be able to exploit these levels and make a profit, but in no way would I ever say anything detrimental or belittle a player/players just because I think they have a lesser poker ability than mine. After all, we all have to start somewhere in our quest to learn this complex game and one day some of those players may come back to haunt me on the tables at higher levels.
My advice is:
Learn to beat these levels, then you are ready to move on and you will have a much better understanding of the cash game.
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How things change in such a relative short space of time
i am playing nl4 atm,
and am unsure myself as to which is the best stratagy,
as raising big pre-flop usually gets respect
and they either all fold,
frustrating if u r holding kk or aa.
or if 1 or 2 call then quite often others then call for value,
so back to a multi-way pot again,which we don,t want.
i have also been experimenting with the 3x raise,
ie;12p, pre-flop,
which i,ve been told should be 5 or even 6x.
as i haven,t played enough sessions atm
i can,t give a definate answer as to which way works best.
although i can say that i have both won and lost playing both ways.
early days,but it could be by playing the 3x way,
i will probably lose less when i do lose
and win less when i do win.
only time will tell.
i also think alot is to do with how much you are prepared to gamble.
as some players are more than happy getting their money in
with a flip or even as the underdog,as they do seem to hit there cards
on a regular basis.
think you just have to think over time
getting in as a slight favourite is the better option.
also, don,t we all remember the bad beats against us
and forget those we get go for us?
anyway mate,
probably run into you at one of those tables sometime.
good luck & best wishes,
devon
adjust
tight table - lower your raise size
loose table - increase your raise size