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you missed off the smiley face symbol. nevertheless, the comment followed four hours of live tv showing next to no live hands and one hour of live coverage. four of the five programmes on that night contained, probably, fewer hands than you can count on one hand.
another parallel to illustrate your new format might be live football. arsenal are playing spurs on sunday and you might decide to schedule four hours of chat, news, interviews replays etc before the game. one hour great but four hours would be demanding for your presenters and audience alike. incidentally, your new format, claire, would show only live football from half way through the second half.
viewing figures might be record breaking but couldn't/shouldn't they be even better?
you missed the point.
My other response however illustrates the things that are happening behind the scenes and constant changes that are happening
Something between mini poker school/top tips would be good, where you prerecorded some of the show guests answering questions on subjects like BRM, the value of the button, how to play OOP, bubble play in tournies, STT strategy, basics of omaha, shortstack play, why top cash players like to sit deep , differences between live and online, when limping is ever okay, donk betting, value bet sizing, etc, etc.
no claire, i am illustrating how absurd it would be if football producer's adopted a similar format to yours. you need only to read the comments made by numerous people in this thread that say that it is not a good thing to have abandoned the showing of live hands in the first four hours of the five hour programme.
Posted by aussie09
The viewing figures for 865 are incredible, for what is essentially a niche product as a very small percentage of the population actually take an active interest in the game. When I first went in the show I expected a few thousand at most, and couldn't believe that at some points it goes to 40k....
Have a general rule of poker...
DO NOT LIMP
NEVER PLAY RAG ACES
DON'T GO AIPF WITH SCOTTY777 (EVEN WITH ACES)
Then show half a dozen hands (from that night's tournaments) to illustrate the point (obviously occasionally showing how you can get away with all of the above - apart from the Scotty777 thing - that's never going to happen). Thus we have excellent guests, giving expert analysis, teaching the punters, from actual examples from tournament play on site. Just a thought.
P.S. - I'm only pulling you leg, Scotty (I fold aces pre every time)
I am also lining up some new programming- Omaha, High Stakes Cash games etc. This is by a separate company but having watched a few of the show recently will be a great additional to the schedules1
However, high stakes cash programmes are a penny a dozen these days, so what would this actually add to Sky Poker?
Should be (if all goes to plan) 9 hours of new shows per week. I am waiting for the production company to send me a list of poker games they are covering per week so I can they put on the forum this week is Omaha, next is cash at these levels and so on
I fear it will never be noticed that I had got to the last 4 by that stage.
So a few constructive criticisms, questions and suggestions, some of which may not win universal support.......
When a guest is an expert in a particular format of poker, should the shows content not reflect that more ?
When we have a guest on, is there room for competitions ? Nothing against them for a bit of variety, when it is a show with just presenter and in house analyst. But to me it seems to be a waste of a guests talents.
Should competitions not all be poker related ?
Is the fact that a players chipstack is not visible when a hand is in progress not making it really difficult for analysts, guests, and viewers too ?
Is the hour allowed for Top of the Pots too long? I enjoy watching it, although by its very nature most of the hands involve the same players they are usually worth watching.
But generally there are about four or five hands which show interesting play, so we are too often watching hands which play themselves.
Is the selection of hands to be shown good enough ? Yes, its great being interactive and showing lots of hands requested by viewers, but it means we are showing hands where it is sometimes a case of someone just wanting to know what the other guy had. The hands have to be interesting for the analyst and other viewers too.
Are too many hands appearing without context? Too many times the analysts and guests are presented with a hand and understandably struggle to quickly identify what tournament it is from and what stage the tourny is at.
Could not more be done to please those of us who particularly enjoy watching tournaments ? A tournament is a progressive thing. Showing hands out of order and context at the end of the show is not satisfying. At least one night a week would it not be possible to dedicate a couple of hours to a particular tournament ?
And finally, could Aussie please correct the spelling of Emperor ? Each time I view this thread it brings out the grumpy old pedantic penguin in me !
I think this is now my longest post ever, but answers below.
Thanks and let me know your thoughts on it!
When a guest is an expert in a particular format of poker, should the shows content not reflect that more ?Ideally yes. The thing we are struggling with at the moment is people’s availability or reliability. We all know what poker players are like
When we have a guest on, is there room for competitions ? Nothing against them for a bit of variety, when it is a show with just presenter and in house analyst. But to me it seems to be a waste of a guests talents.We can do competitions when guests are in but maybe adjust them around questions based on that person or the show content. Does make more sense to have competitions on the night when there is no guest.
Should competitions not all be poker related?Difficult one really. Some people think more people some want more entertainment. Was discussing some ideas with Orford the other day, but any quiz ideas people have do let us know
Is the fact that a players chipstack is not visible when a hand is in progress not making it really difficult for analysts, guests, and viewers too ?We are in the process of redesigning the onscreen table graphic (plus a few other exciting changes) and this will be added. Turn around is about 16 weeks as all the information has to be rebuilt. A little painful but at least it’s happening
Is the hour allowed for Top of the Pots too long? I enjoy watching it, although by its very nature most of the hands involve the same players they are usually worth watching.
But generally there are about four or five hands which show interesting play, so we are too often watching hands which play themselves.Again a difficult one as some people love this show. Also depending on what’s happened on the tables some week we have great hands to show, others can be a little flat.
Is the selection of hands to be shown good enough ? Yes, its great being interactive and showing lots of hands requested by viewers, but it means we are showing hands where it is sometimes a case of someone just wanting to know what the other guy had. The hands have to be interesting for the analyst and other viewers too.Very true! Something we are working on with the hand selection, but as always if the viewers are involved or see something interesting get those hand ID’s in.
Are too many hands appearing without context? Too many times the analysts and guests are presented with a hand and understandably struggle to quickly identify what tournament it is from and what stage the tourny is at.Scratching my head on this as might help when we redesign the tables and have tournament ID’s on them etc. Let me look into it.
Could not more be done to please those of us who particularly enjoy watching tournaments ? A tournament is a progressive thing. Showing hands out of order and context at the end of the show is not satisfying. At least one night a week would it not be possible to dedicate a couple of hours to a particular tournament ?For the moment we could try to place more tournament hands in the first hour or part of SPS, Analyse My Play. However they wouldn’t be ‘live’. However if a few months down the line we don’t think certain parts of the programmes are working can definitely consider having this as a ‘live’ tournament hand section
Have a look at my reply to Penguin above as the tables are currently being redesigned to feature this
Thanks
How about...
Programme 1 - One hour Final Table play from the previous live tournament evening.
Programme 4 & 5 - Two hours "live" play from the evening's tournament.
then when you wish to schedule repeats you can sequence them so that Programme 4 & 5 is followed by Programme 1 from the subsequent live evening.
If i was a regular viewer I'd rather know from the start whether I have seen an "episode" before as I'd never want to watch a repeat, for me having a bunch of different shows some of which may have been seen before and others not would just get annoying and stop me from bothering