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If you're sat in seat 1 or seat 10, keep your elbows into the dealer so he can't just reach past you.
I've had one try to take my cards out from under my hand before. He was very apologetic when I asked him what he thought he was doing... lol
Seat 1 & 10 (or the seat immediately either side of the Dealer) are the hot spots.
Good advice. Mr Loner.
You got no friends, then? You & me would get along fine, methinks.
Some years ago, the great Ali Mallu was in Seat 1, in Grosvenor Bolton, & the Dealer mucked his hand by mistake. Some aggro verbals go off, followed by some argy bargy handbag slapping type stuff, 6 of one, half dozen of the other sorta thing.
Ali goes home, & 2 days later, gets a letter, saying he is Banned from Grosvenor Casinos, ALLEGEDLY for "assaulting the dealer". (He said he just tickled him.....)
Now, sort this Ruling out. By now - 2 days later - Ali has made the Final of another Tourney in Blackpool, and I was in the same Final. It was a 2 day jobbie, we return on Day Two, 9 of us, to play the Final. And they won't let Ali Mallu in, they say he has been banned nationwide. (His ban was overturned a year later, & all is well with he & Grosvenor now).
Ali rings me at the Table from Reception & asks me to go see him, but I can't get involved in that sort of discussion, so Ali can't get in to finish the Tourney he paid £300 or whatever to enter the previoios day.
So, his chips are "in play", but he can't play.
The question, then, is what happens to his chipstack? Obviously, leaving them in play, advantages some, & disadantages others. Think about THAT one!
PS - I just looked it up on a Database, it was Saturday 30th December, 2006. 9th place is shown as "Name withheld". That was Ali. You can guess what donkey finished eighth, of course......
Bizarre!
Where are these rules written down? Are they on any major casino group website? Or are players just supposed to know them?
So if this was pre-flop, and the player hadn't looked at his cards yet (as is quite rightly drummed into us on 865 regularly), despite the player doing absolutely nothing wrong he/she is effectively punished?
EDIT - Sorry - just realised I slightly misread the original post that the player concerned had raised, so he must have looked at his cards!
In the example quoted, "we" have NOT acted yet. We are still deciding what to do, when the two guys behind us mucked out of turn. So our hand is ruled "dead"......
Not sure how it would apply post-flop. The same, I guess.....
Weird, eh?
The logic is that "we" had time to point out that the player behind us acted out of turn BEFORE the 2nd player did the same thing. Which is tosh, of course.
It is a standard rule in all Grosvenor Casinos, but fortunately or otherwise, it is NOT applied consistently, like most of their rules, I'm afraid.
I do have a little smile to myself when folks have a pop at Online Poker. Try playing "Live", & see what happens!
Since i have begun live poker I always been told to protect my cards, and i do, without fail, usually with a chip. I never realised just how important this was i just did it as habit without really understanding why...
Having listened, I fully agree with tikay that it is the players responsibility to protect their cards. On this occasion, the player was clearly unhappy with the decision, but he used that annoyance positively and went on to win the mtt, showing great character. He told me after that he has never ever used a card protector and he has played the game for many years...
I wonder if he now will...
The dealer was also a little annoyed with herself and said sorry to the player after the mtt which i thought was nice. But, mistakes happen and she had been dealing non stop for 2 days it was about 3am, so anyone saying "sack the dealer" is being rediculous imo. Tikay is right tho, the main mistake was the player not protecting his cards and so this was a fair ruling.
If a dealer makes mistakes often(ish) they should be gone!
If you can fit 700 million people on a bridge without it collapsing, I would be surprised lol
Well, let's put it this way, i wouldnt want you to be my manager or i'd be without a job!
Depends what you do, things like poker and bridges need attention to detail!
If you're something useless like an astronaut, or doctor, you might as well turn up drunk.
Like they can't keep track of who is in the hand!