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Was your Post constructed before, or after, you had read my explanations?
Thank you Tikay .
The presenter/analyst combinations are, almost without fail, working very very well and it's no surprise that the shows where you are three-handed work the best as with two others to bounce conversations off, each individual can present ideas and also, importantly, listen to the other points of view. The Neil Channing show as already mentioned, and the show with Jen Mason & Nick Wealthall especially were excellent programming.
Like most others appear to be, I miss the continued focus on a single tournament throughout the evening but as you imply, to include all the other stuff, something has to give.
I agree that the focus of 865 has to be to promote to both new and existing client bases, and it was nice to see the show last night with Redmond & Carlo where, whether intentional or not, it felt like it was more directed to those who are already quite experienced in the game.
The "Analyse My Play" segment is the one I feel that I may well gloss over in weeks to come, it seems to be getting rather sycophantic as the conclusion 99% of the time appears to be "well you played that hand well"
I was also going to mention the lack of low stakes cash action shown, but I was told a day or two ago that this is covered in the 7pm-8pm slot, which I can't watch and doesn't get repeated, so I'll shut up about that one.
Getting the TV icon on a couple of DYMs and/or the Forum DTDs next please! Pretty please!
I don't watch the channel TOO much as there's usually soaps or some other rubbish on, however, I think the new format's pretty good, in the main.
Deffo better with presenter / 2 x analysists.
Thanks, Gents.
Some things look & seem very obvious (as to right or wrong) until when you look below the surface, when it becomes apparent that it is not as easy as it might seem at first sight, hence my long-winded attempt to share some of those dilemmas with you all.
"All things to all men" (& Ladies) is a very neat trick indeed.
I like most of the new shows, though it would be better if more people sent in there hands to be analysed. It would probably be easier if more tournaments and cash tables were available to be shown on the channel, so perhaps Sky could consider setting up more TV tables. I have no problem at all with players wanting to be seen on the telly but Sky should try to "spread the love" around a bit whenever they have chance. I know the games of particular players better than I know my own, they're shown so often.
The shows are now carried more by the personalities of the on-screen folk (I'm not saying Talent) than they ever have been. I don't really want to watch a show that moves immediately from one hand of poker to the next without some discussion and humour. Only really "hardcore" players would ever watch a show like that and even we would get bored before the show hits the five-hour mark.
The one criticism I have of the new show formats is the ever so tedious "Sky Poker School". Asking for contributions on playing big pocket pairs or bluffing in cash games is poor for a serious poker show. It's just so facile to ask "How do you play this hand in cash games?" The answer will always be "It depends". I think this show is simply redundant and more would be learned if you simply show more hands and allow these spots to crop up.
I'm not complaining about the shows, generally. I both love and hate poker and 865 services my addiction quite nicely.
Thanks Mr Borin.
Just to clarify that awful use of the word "Talent". It's standard TV-talk for on-screen peeps, (not just poker), simply an easy means to distinguish between front of camera & techies. Studio Call Times ("be here at x time" etc) are different for "Techies" & "Talent".
My presence amongst the so-called "Talent" makes the point nicely. And Ofrord, of course.....
I'd comment at length, as I did a long time ago* when the studio changed from 3D to 2D graphics, but understanding the acquisition / retention trade off I get that some changes I'm going to like, some I'm not.
In a 5 x 1 hour, 3 day a week schedule I can find enough that I enjoy to watch. To expect all 15 hours to appeal to everyone is a bit much.
*pretty much all my points made 2 years ago still stand. The only thing that I was wrong about was changing from 3D didn't make anything worse at all.
also i thought nick wealthall was excellent when he was on so much information really good
knowledge of game and i thought he was just a comic due to another show.
channing was also very good to listen to.