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IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!!

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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2012
    im backing follow the plan tmoz at massive prices ew and ive also done same as last year won in the dark 25s ew ,,w/o big bucks could easily go off 25s with BB on the day,,,lumping on fingal bay and not often a forte of mine i have bumpers im lumping on population spirit of of shankley in same race,,and in the mares bumper fickle fortune,,and in the hcap hurdles mcains DESERT CRY i think the cheltenham run was a lot better than it looks and could go off at a big price and im sure i will post a few more
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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2012
    having watched reruns of last 2 nationals recently black apalachi ran well and killy glen but needs good ground as bell as stated also the midnight club ran well backed 4 all ready but im holding off cause i think 1 bookie will go first 6 on the day
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited April 2012
    won in the dark w/o bb @ 25's????? good grief ill have to back that the fields not great lets not kid ourselves
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!!:
    having watched reruns of last 2 nationals recently black apalachi ran well and killy glen but needs good ground as bell as stated also the midnight club ran well backed 4 all ready but im holding off cause i think 1 bookie will go first 6 on the day
    Posted by andybuck
    midnight club ran a cracker last year, he gets badly hampered (think actually when killyglen falls) and cant get a good rythym going again but runs on, again softer the better and was hardly knocked about in March on the friday
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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!!:
    im backing follow the plan tmoz at massive prices ew and ive also done same as last year won in the dark 25s ew ,,w/o big bucks could easily go off 25s with BB on the day,,,lumping on fingal bay and not often a forte of mine i have bumpers im lumping on population spirit of of shankley in same race,,and in the mares bumper fickle fortune,,and in the hcap hurdles mcains DESERT CRY i think the cheltenham run was a lot better than it looks and could go off at a big price and im sure i will post a few more
    Posted by andybuck
    If u read my post regarding Desret Cry's Cheltenham run, u will know I'm fancying this majorly if it runs. Needs a fast pace though. Hoping the fact it's a conditional jockeys race will ensure this
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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!!:
    Still cant see a winner outside my 14 which i have now cut down some more although not with great confidence. I just can't back 14 horses LOL. Have cut out West End Rocker-needed to have a race this year. Rare Bob because if I think WER isnt going to win he wont either. Calgary Bay, cant let my heart rule my head State of Play-might get placed but wont win Down to 10
    Posted by vaigret

     Hi Father V, not noticed any comment regarding Deep Purple?? What's your gut feeling regarding me bagging several 'bags' from Junior?? Let's assume it takes to the fences lol. And don't u think the price of GC is now ridiculous?? Seen 9/1 for it now in a place. 
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!!:
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!! : If u read my post regarding Desret Cry's Cheltenham run, u will know I'm fancying this majorly if it runs. Needs a fast pace though. Hoping the fact it's a conditional jockeys race will ensure this
    Posted by joesman1
    i remebered you wrote about that and rewatched the race and i concur like a different animal in latter half of race
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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!!:
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!! : i remebered you wrote about that and rewatched the race and i concur like a different animal in latter half of race
    Posted by BELL_POKER
    Cheers Mr Bell, . . . Don't take all the early prices Sat morning before I get up lol
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited April 2012
    hes not on my shortlist of 4, and given the ballabriggs form from winning kim muir year before national and would prefer meself if they kept him for this next year, but in saying that does anybody else think sunnyhillboy has gone dangerously under the radar???

    what do any becauseicouldntsee backers think of this one, considering your pick was travelling like a dream throughout (ran a fantastic race i must add) but got outstayed plain and simple?
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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!!:
    hes not on my shortlist of 4, and given the ballabriggs form from winning kim muir year before national and would prefer meself if they kept him for this next year, but in saying that does anybody else think sunnyhillboy has gone dangerously under the radar??? what do any becauseicouldntsee backers think of this one, considering your pick was travelling like a dream throughout (ran a fantastic race i must add) but got outstayed plain and simple?
    Posted by BELL_POKER
    Meant the early prices on Desert Cry, I'm hoping it will be 16/1 plus, and I'm sure there are plenty of shrewdies out there gonna be galloping it up
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited April 2012
    Hi all,

    Thanks for the tips, will certainly be looking at Desert Cry. Mares bumper I strongly fancy Call me a star, did it last time when it got badly hampered and still won.

    joesman, I dismissed Deep Puple early on as only gets 7lbs from very good Gold Cup winner. As to giles Cross price , yes all the value has gone, thats why i have already got rid of West End Rocker. however havnt chucked out giles Cross yet and he might go back out a shade or two when jo publics money hits synchronised.

    Already backed becauseicouldntsee;  and Junior when Idoruko Road franked form. He is definitely the story of the race and wouldnt put anybody off lumping on, the Pipes also know how to get one ready For National.

    As for The Midnight club, got to give Ruby some credit, if he picked On his Own , The midnight club aint going to win. 
     
    Father V
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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2012
    just backed won in the dark again again bell best price i can see and got is 18s now  w/o BB
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!!:
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!! : Meant the early prices on Desert Cry, I'm hoping it will be 16/1 plus, and I'm sure there are plenty of shrewdies out there gonna be galloping it up
    Posted by joesman1
    yeah i got that! just started a completly new topic re the national again! think he (desert cry) may open up about that, may we see a son of flicka-esque punt on him? perhaps
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  • ALFIE123ALFIE123
    edited April 2012

    Hey guys.  I aint a big horse racing fan but always enjoy the National and Cheltenham Festival.

    I know a guy who is up on his horse racing and he says a good outside bet is ALWAYS WAINING. Looked a bit into it and seems to run the big Aintree fences well. Not sure about his weight and stamina tho. Any thoughts as a good E/w bet

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  • ALFIE123ALFIE123
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!!:
    Hey guys.  I aint a big horse racing fan but always enjoy the National and Cheltenham Festival. I know a guy who is up on his horse racing and he says a good outside bet is ALWAYS WAINING. Looked a bit into it and seems to run the big Aintree fences well. Not sure about his weight and stamina tho. Any thoughts as a good E/w bet
    Posted by ALFIE123
    Ignore this now as just seen that ALWAYS WAINING and Le BEAU BAI are not running.
    Back to square one now.
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!!:
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!! : Ignore this now as just seen that ALWAYS WAINING and Le BEAU BAI are not running. Back to square one now.
    Posted by ALFIE123
    always waining would be a good shout for 3rd year in a row for the topham (Fri) he eats the fences and trip ideal - national itself i think would be a bridge too far staying wise but well never know. he held entry in topham and being dual winner of that id be surprised if they dont go that route now . i myself fancy Fabalu for the topham for what its worth but if always waining lines up ill be having a look
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited April 2012
    now down to eight, thanks to connections for making it a little easier.


    Synchronised-7-1-well handicapped and if he gets round will win. Price short enough though.
    Black Appalachi-33-1-Sound form and 3lb better than 2nd in 2010. but 2 years older. hmmmm
    Junior-11-1-the story horse, cheltanham Ascot, National Winner?
    According to Pete -28-1 - ran tremendous racers this year
    Always Right - 28-1looked like he would have waltzed past Giles Cross and if palate op has worked well he will win
    Killyglen -16-1-6lb less than last year when he looked likely winner. Will he remeber experience as good or bad ?
    Becauseicouldntsee- 20-1-ran well at Cheltenham and 2nd behind ante post fav Prince de Beucherne
    Giles Cross -10-1 -stand out at bottom of handicap, pity no o'reagan 

     
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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2012
    what a good start that was gutted
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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2012
    FOLLOW THE PLAN   BBBBBOOOOOMMMM GOT 66s ew 
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited April 2012
    CONGRATULATIONS ANDYBUCK

    NOW THAT TAKES SOME TIPPING 

    50-1 SHOT

    Horse that beat him before

    Treacle

    running in the national tomoz, needs another look
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited April 2012
    follow the plan very very nice! he ran big race last year when 3rd, and i if im honest i thought his win in the guiness Gold cup was a fluke so this has proved it wasnt, travelled powerfully and deserved to win. credit where credits due - great shout, some price too, my word!
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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2012
    cheers bell won plenty but 2ew double won in the dark 66s and follow the plan 66s ,,omg won in the dark never touched a twig cruising for a place and donkey harry curses me but i aint grumbling aintree paid for and more all ready
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited April 2012
    yeah i thought he was going quite well out the back myself, going by distance won, and run last year, he wouldve been in first 3 getting round yeah. crack away jack ran quite well for most part to show that alls not lost, hope a change (another change) of scenary can spark some life into him

    make sure you dont waste all your winnings on Fingal bay tomorrow, but i obviously wont stop you from lumping on like you said. id said previously that fences and 3m will be making of the horse, obviously a very good hurdler but that why i would have taken him on all day long in neptune due to trip/ground. well grounds softer here and obviously hes finally gone up in trip and worthy favourite and its easy to dismiss a favourite just for sake of it but wow the race looks hot , cotton mill running a blinder in neptune before running out, and the list goes on.

    im taking knock a hand, really imporessed with the way he outbattled gillinbursti in the rearranged newbury meeting. obviously a good few pounds inferior to fingal, but hobbs' charge looks for all intents and purposes set for taking on the bigger obstacles next season and this could be hurdle swansong, im not sure if push comes to shove dickie johnson will knock him about too much, espec after injury (no matter how severe).

    this race has been known to throw up some big price winners (shocks) and theres many a danger lurking, looking forward to it and the topham the most
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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2012
    i think knockahand will be up there,my only rservation with fingal is its been on the go from early season although its not run for a while,and how soft is the ground,iwiill be backing fingal but im not as confident
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  • ALFIE123ALFIE123
    edited April 2012
    FWIW i have done a double on

    Albertas Run    (Melling Chase)
    Always Waining (Topham Chase) My pick originally for the National.

    Had a brainwave then and also went for Apt Approach in the Topham.
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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2012

    ive backed always waining ,i backed it last year bell,,no rain wanted

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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited April 2012
    good luck all.

    If you respect Henry De Bromhead have a gander at catchersinscratchers in 4.15 , currently 100-1.

    Ok no mare has won this for a few years but as such gets weight all round. Has won at this trip on good ground, they have watered selectively, so dont see it being soft. Lightly campaigned and ran on ground it doesnt like last time and blew up 3 out on comeback race. Will strip a lot fitter this time out. 

    Ok hot race and she might not win but she wont run like a 100-1 shot and at 20-1 a place sure is value.

    Father V 
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: IMPORTANT; HERE IS THE GRAND NATIONAL WINNER!!:
    good luck all. If you respect Henry De Bromhead have a gander at catchersinscratchers in 4.15 , currently 100-1. Ok no mare has won this for a few years but as such gets weight all round. Has won at this trip on good ground, they have watered selectively, so dont see it being soft. Lightly campaigned and ran on ground it doesnt like last time and blew up 3 out on comeback race. Will strip a lot fitter this time out.  Ok hot race and she might not win but she wont run like a 100-1 shot and at 20-1 a place sure is value. Father V 
    Posted by vaigret
    she could play a part and in the same race (again hinting to why i thought it was so hot) a case can actually be made for another 100/1 shot!! Netminder, unlucky not to beat subsequent Albertt Bartlett winner Brindis Breeze, with this one its a case being from unfashionable yard but horses outrun their prices all the time at this meeting, proof of that yesterday, and i expect could go very well indeed
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited April 2012
    i was having a look at always waining for a 3rd straight topham yesterday when pulled outta national, but will stick with my initial fancy Fabalu, injury prone throughout career but has a big one in him and this could be it

    just the 2 bets for me (well 2 races, gonna have netminder e/w a few shillings for the craic in same race a knock a hand)

    possibly have a flutter on its a gimme in the last, wanted to back this one at the festival before it was taken out of the decs.

    no bet next but would be no shock if an outsider wins it ahead of darlan (who ran a blinder in supreme to be fair) - id say theatre guide could provide a shock. probably will now my moneys not down!!! grrrrrr 
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited April 2012
    and thats a race where outsiders do well from memory, could bode well afterall for fingal and the other shorties today perhaps
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