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Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!

bckneilbckneil
edited April 2012 in Poker Chat
Was in the Vegas semi direct tv tourney tonight was doing ok slowly getting chips, it was level 5 I think big blind was 150. Got dealt QQ flopped quads, the other guy bet into me and ended up shoving his stack in, that was ok. About  4 hands later I got QQ again thought might be my lucky night raised 450, every body folds, oh well not to bad got the blinds better than a kick in the balls. The very next hand get KK, am thinking wtf, raise 3x bob again, one of the shorter stacks goes all in I call he turns over AA, I loose almost half my stack. The very next hand again get dealt KK, actually wasn't to happy had a bad feeling this time, some crazy player that was basically playing every hand bet 1000, which I think was about 6 x the bb , was a third of my stack to I just thought shove all in, he has ak, all the cards till the river were low cards but u guest it the imfomas ACE ON THE RIVER, new it was gona happen, not too fed up I know variance ect but that 4 hands in the space of Mabey 7 I thought it was weird , anybody else have similar hands delt
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited April 2012
    I was once at a live cash game where the same player got Aces FOUR times in a row.

    If it can happen, it will happen.  Poker is essentially a game of statistics and thats how they just work.  Sometimes these things come across in a short space of time and you notice them...

    You notice them less in live poker because a) you get dealt less hands per hour....b) live poker is usually 9/10 handed meaning big hands are that much rarer c) showdown is a lot more rare as its generally harder to get all your money in a live game than it is online and d) when we play live we usually have a chat with other people and don't pay as much attention to the game.

    Please just enjoy the game and don't let these conspiracy theroies ruin the game for you!


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  • oynutteroynutter
    edited April 2012
    Don't listen to Scotty, crazy hands never happen in a live game of poker. Just go to youtube and search "crazy poker hand" if you don't believe me!
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  • kb245kb245
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    Was in the Vegas semi direct tv tourney tonight was doing ok slowly getting chips, it was level 5 I think big blind was 150. Got dealt QQ flopped quads, the other guy bet into me and ended up shoving his stack in, that was ok. About  4 hands later I got QQ again thought might be my lucky night raised 450, every body folds, oh well not to bad got the blinds better than a kick in the balls. The very next hand get KK, am thinking wtf, raise 3x bob again, one of the shorter stacks goes all in I call he turns over AA, I loose almost half my stack. The very next hand again get dealt KK, actually wasn't to happy had a bad feeling this time, some crazy player that was basically playing every hand bet 1000, which I think was about 6 x the bb , was a third of my stack to I just thought shove all in, he has ak, all the cards till the river were low cards but u guest it the imfomas ACE ON THE RIVER, new it was gona happen, not too fed up I know variance ect but that 4 hands in the space of Mabey 7 I thought it was weird , anybody else have similar hands delt
    Posted by bckneil
    cant c y u are complaing.
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  • bckneilbckneil
    edited April 2012
    Yeah av seen some crazy poker videos, was just a mental 5 mins were I thought I was gona get some more chips but ended up knocked out lol, onto the next tournament though ;)
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  • 12671267
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    I was once at a live cash game where the same player got Aces FOUR times in a row. If it can happen, it will happen.  Poker is essentially a game of statistics and thats how they just work.  Sometimes these things come across in a short space of time and you notice them... You notice them less in live poker because a) you get dealt less hands per hour....b) live poker is usually 9/10 handed meaning big hands are that much rarer c) showdown is a lot more rare as its generally harder to get all your money in a live game than it is online and d) when we play live we usually have a chat with other people and don't pay as much attention to the game. Please just enjoy the game and don't let these conspiracy theroies ruin the game for you!
    Posted by scotty77
    This maybe a stupid question.   But whyy?   howw?
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited April 2012
    Sorry I expressed that wrong.  The odds are the same obv.  What I meant was that the games tend to play a bit more passive....a lot of live players don't even like getting in KK AIPF.
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  • GELDYGELDY
    edited April 2012

    At least you got action - I remember a Sky Roller tournament last year in which I had my best hands ever. As I said at the time:
     
    "You gave me the best hands I have ever had in such a tourney AA 5x KK 2x But (damn you Sky!) I only saw action on one of the hands, and just got a check raise out of it. Played very standard 3x bets but no callers or folded to the BB"
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner
    edited April 2012
    Jeez... people will complain about anything! "I got loads of big hands last night! What is the meaning of this!?!? SORT IT OUT SKY!!!" 

    Apologies bckneil, I know you're not really complaining. It's just funnier that way.

    It's not that weird really. The odds say it's highly unlikely but it has to happen sometimes. Just be happy...
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  • JockBMWJockBMW
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    I was once at a live cash game where the same player got Aces FOUR times in a row. If it can happen, it will happen.  Poker is essentially a game of statistics and thats how they just work.  Sometimes these things come across in a short space of time and you notice them... You notice them less in live poker because a) you get dealt less hands per hour....b) live poker is usually 9/10 handed meaning big hands are that much rarer c) showdown is a lot more rare as its generally harder to get all your money in a live game than it is online and d) when we play live we usually have a chat with other people and don't pay as much attention to the game. Please just enjoy the game and don't let these conspiracy theroies ruin the game for you!
    Posted by scotty77

    If anyone is interested the odds of this happening are 2,342,560,000 to 1 aganst ;o)

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  • djblacke04djblacke04
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!! : If anyone is interested the odds of this happening are 2,342,560,000 to 1 aganst ;o)
    Posted by JockBMW

    actually its 10,648,000-1...




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  • MyZoMyZo
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!! : actually its 10,648,000-1...
    Posted by djblacke04
    £2.50 Each Way please
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited April 2012
    Glad to see ur accounts been sorted myzo :)
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  • Sky_DaveSky_Dave
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    I was once at a live cash game where the same player got Aces FOUR times in a row. If it can happen, it will happen.  Poker is essentially a game of statistics and thats how they just work.  Sometimes these things come across in a short space of time and you notice them... You notice them less in live poker because a) you get dealt less hands per hour....b) live poker is usually 9/10 handed meaning big hands are that much rarer c) showdown is a lot more rare as its generally harder to get all your money in a live game than it is online and d) when we play live we usually have a chat with other people and don't pay as much attention to the game. Please just enjoy the game and don't let these conspiracy theroies ruin the game for you!
    Posted by scotty77
    Didn't something like this happen on the cash table at SPT Cardiff last year? I think Thewy and The Don were on the same table and something similar happened...
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  • EvilPinguEvilPingu
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!! : Didn't something like this happen on the cash table at SPT Cardiff last year? I think Thewy and The Don were on the same table and something similar happened...
    Posted by Sky_Dave
    Having Thewy at the table significantly increases the chances of someone getting dealt Aces four times in a row.
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    Was in the Vegas semi direct tv tourney tonight was doing ok slowly getting chips, it was level 5 I think big blind was 150. Got dealt QQ flopped quads, the other guy bet into me and ended up shoving his stack in, that was ok. About  4 hands later I got QQ again thought might be my lucky night raised 450, every body folds, oh well not to bad got the blinds better than a kick in the balls. The very next hand get KK, am thinking wtf, raise 3x bob again, one of the shorter stacks goes all in I call he turns over AA, I loose almost half my stack. The very next hand again get dealt KK, actually wasn't to happy had a bad feeling this time, some crazy player that was basically playing every hand bet 1000, which I think was about 6 x the bb , was a third of my stack to I just thought shove all in, he has ak, all the cards till the river were low cards but u guest it the imfomas ACE ON THE RIVER, new it was gona happen, not too fed up I know variance ect but that 4 hands in the space of Mabey 7 I thought it was weird , anybody else have similar hands delt
    Posted by bckneil
    lol that crazy player was me.........i was chip leader with about 8k when we clashed and i got the ace.......i was also getting massive hands had aa twice and kk once before the ak.....if it makes you feel any better about 30 mins later i have aj v a;10 he hits 10 on flop....two hand later my kk v 66 ...6 on flop and i am now 45th out of 60....hero to zero massively dominating 2 hands,

    i then went out when i shoved into kk with a9 (same guy who had 66).......chiiiiiiiiipppps!
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  • MyZoMyZo
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    Glad to see ur accounts been sorted myzo :)
    Posted by scotty77
    And I dare say you speak on behalf of everyone's bank managers when you say that...... Every bit of new value helps. :p

    Thanks m8
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  • JockBMWJockBMW
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!! : actually its 10,648,000-1...
    Posted by djblacke04

    That is the odds of hitting the same pair 4 times in a row, assuming the first pair is given, Ie you are dealt AA then you get it another 3 times.  The odds of getting the first AA is 100% because you already have it.

    But the odds of getting dealt it initially is 220-1 so multiply 10,648,000 x 220  and you get the figure I posted 2,342,560,000 to 1

    We're both doing the same calc, it's just, do you say the first pair is a given or not.  either way.  LONG LONG LONG Odds ;o) 



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  • djblacke04djblacke04
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!! : That is the odds of hitting the same pair 4 times in a row, assuming the first pair is given, Ie you are dealt AA then you get it another 3 times.  The odds of getting the first AA is 100% because you already have it. But the odds of getting dealt it initially is 220-1 so multiply 10,648,000 x 220  and you get the figure I posted 2,342,560,000 to 1 We're both doing the same calc, it's just, do you say the first pair is a given or not.  either way.  LONG LONG LONG Odds ;o) 
    Posted by JockBMW

    for someone to have them consecutively,it would mean that AA was  the first hand,so each subsequent AA is @220-1.. so there fore the odds of getting it 4 times consecutively are 1x220x220x220...
    but however if we were to ask what are the odds on the next 4 hands being AA your calculation is correct....

    but the odds on getting AA 4 times in a row are one in  10,648,000  ( for any PP 4 times in a row.)

    :)


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  • neil1970neil1970
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    In Response to Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!! : lol that crazy player was me.........i was chip leader with about 8k when we clashed and i got the ace.......i was also getting massive hands had aa twice and kk once before the ak.....if it makes you feel any better about 30 mins later i have aj v a;10 he hits 10 on flop....two hand later my kk v 66 ...6 on flop and i am now 45th out of 60....hero to zero massively dominating 2 hands, i then went out when i shoved into kk with a9 (same guy who had 66).......chiiiiiiiiipppps!


    Well davey mate that was me that took your chips and if it makes you feel any better those 6's was my only time i sucked out few hands later hursty joined are table i was on about 35k had AK on the button 3x it hursty shoves for 25k i sigh called he flips over K8 suited 8 on the flop got back upto about 17k exit hand AQ in the blinds i open shove BB calls flips over KQ flop comes a Q i went yeha turn K same as yourself hreo to zero out in 9th gutted...
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  • cinnanaticinnanati
    edited April 2012

    that very seldom if any happens in live poker sky poker is completly different.think about it thev got 200 runners in a tourny they cant go on all night so in my opinion its fixed so so many runners get knock out in a certain amount of time dont care wot sky say or who ever sticks up for them but its trure av been on this site for 4years and im not the only 1 who says this although a would say its the best site av played on just my opinion lol

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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    that very seldom if any happens in live poker sky poker is completly different.think about it thev got 200 runners in a tourny they cant go on all night so in my opinion its fixed so so many runners get knock out in a certain amount of time dont care wot sky say or who ever sticks up for them but its trure av been on this site for 5 years and im not the only 1 who says this although a would say its the best site av played on just my opinion lol
    Posted by cinnanati
    No that's what the jobs of the blind increases are sir....to make people get knocked out.

    Also it doesn't matter at all to sky how long a tournie goes on for.  In fact they probably want people grinding tournies on here more, as they may play blackjack roulette or cash games on the side.


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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    that very seldom if any happens in live poker sky poker is completly different.think about it thev got 200 runners in a tourny they cant go on all night so in my opinion its fixed so so many runners get knock out in a certain amount of time dont care wot sky say or who ever sticks up for them but its trure av been on this site for 5 years and im not the only 1 who says this although a would say its the best site av played on just my opinion lol
    Posted by cinnanati
    why?...do sky players have to get to bed before midnight incase they turn into pumpkins?...............pokerstars have tourny's that get 30/40k runners
    and last up to 24 hrs....
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  • IDONKCALLUIDONKCALLU
    edited April 2012
    fact is even tikay said it last nite the reason we get more bad beats online is because u get more hands dealt per hour thousnads of hands online where as live be about 20 - 30 hands per hour live so of course u are going to get  more bad beats and more hands u think omg that just cant happen it happens if u think its fixed or rigged so on play live poker ;)
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!! :
    In Response to Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!! : lol that crazy player was me.........i was chip leader with about 8k when we clashed and i got the ace.......i was also getting massive hands had aa twice and kk once before the ak.....if it makes you feel any better about 30 mins later i have aj v a;10 he hits 10 on flop....two hand later my kk v 66 ...6 on flop and i am now 45th out of 60....hero to zero massively dominating 2 hands, i then went out when i shoved into kk with a9 (same guy who had 66).......chiiiiiiiiipppps! Well davey mate that was me that took your chips and if it makes you feel any better those 6's was my only time i sucked out few hands later hursty joined are table i was on about 35k had AK on the button 3x it hursty shoves for 25k i sigh called he flips over K8 suited 8 on the flop got back upto about 17k exit hand AQ in the blinds i open shove BB calls flips over KQ flop comes a Q i went yeha turn K same as yourself hreo to zero out in 9th gutted...
    Posted by neil1970
    lol serves you right for beating me :)........its a fine line between winning a tourny and crashing out,mant times i have looked back and thought "if i had won that hand i would of won the game".........on the flipside i have gone in behind at a crucial time and won then gone on to cash/win......gl next game....and wp!
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  • jonjo75jonjo75
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    that very seldom if any happens in live poker sky poker is completly different.think about it thev got 200 runners in a tourny they cant go on all night so in my opinion its fixed so so many runners get knock out in a certain amount of time dont care wot sky say or who ever sticks up for them but its trure av been on this site for 4years and im not the only 1 who says this although a would say its the best site av played on just my opinion lol
    Posted by cinnanati
    Why cant they go on all night, they haven't got a man sitting in the office waiting to go home but can,t because a tourney is going on.
    Lots of people get knocked out at similar stages because of the blinds and circumstances such as straight after the bubble .
    I will never understand that if you really think SKY are doing this why have you been playing on here for 4 years and why do you think its the best site .
    And why is there a "lol" after "its just my opinion" are you saying you dont really believe what your saying or am i missing the funny bit.
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  • AMYBRAMYBR
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    Sorry I expressed that wrong.  The odds are the same obv.  What I meant was that the games tend to play a bit more passive....a lot of live players don't even like getting in KK AIPF.
    Posted by scotty77
    Probably the daftest thing I've ever heard you say :p
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  • cinnanaticinnanati
    edited April 2012

    ok then a must be wrong and scotty thanx for calling me sir

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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!! : Didn't something like this happen on the cash table at SPT Cardiff last year? I think Thewy and The Don were on the same table and something similar happened...
    Posted by Sky_Dave
    alls i  can rememer of that table was me folding every hand for 6 hours. Although the odds of that happening again i would imagine are even rarer than being delt aces 4 hands in a row.
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  • bckneilbckneil
    edited April 2012
    Hello dave, when i said crazy player didnt meen nothin by it just ment u were playing lots of hands, but i do remember u showing alot of big hands so understand y u were playing alot. I didnt start this thread as a complaint on skypoker, out of the poker sites av tried once i started playing on sky poker i have never went on any other site, good poker and freindly community, u get the odd priiick lol. Not played much live poker so was just wondering if this kind of things happen live also.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!!:
    In Response to Re: Crazy hands, would the same happen in live poker!!! : for someone to have them consecutively,it would mean that AA was  the first hand,so each subsequent AA is @220-1.. so there fore the odds of getting it 4 times consecutively are 1x220x220x220... but however if we were to ask what are the odds on the next 4 hands being AA your calculation is correct.... but the odds on getting AA 4 times in a row are 10,648,000  ( for any PP 4 times in a row.) :)
    Posted by djblacke04
    Forget the odds

    Did anyone get the dealers name?

    I want to sit at their table if I ever make an SPT!
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