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The Derby

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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2012
    EATING HUMBLE PIE

    tremendous performance by Camelot
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  • IDONKCALLUIDONKCALLU
    edited June 2012
    i said it would win not hard to tip odds on shots but this was a good bet i dont back odds on shots tho woulda snapped your 7/4 up tho lol
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited June 2012
    won it well but new frankel my eye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • IDONKCALLUIDONKCALLU
    edited June 2012
    loooooool was a funny comment never a new frankel tbf camelot didnt beat a great deal frankel would beat camelot easily :)
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2012
    we will see  it will win st.ledger (triple crown) when wins st.ledger,
    did frankel win triple crown, NO as they knew it wouldn't stay distance,
    so if CAMELOT wins st.ledger surly must at least be as high as FRANKEL ifnot surpass it.

    we will see, cant wait to see CAMELOT again and hopfully be kept in training next year to see against the mighty FRANKEL.
    i very much doubt the 2 will race each other but you never know.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2012
    oooo btw  best price 1/2 for st.ledger,

    way too skinny, but what will beat it if runs?????
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited June 2012
    point taken about staying a longer trip but pound for pound and over a mile its a non contest.

    still camelot won very handily today was impressed how he handled the extra half mile very well, won very cosily

    and regards to where he runs next then nothing to my mind will beat him, in hindsight hed have made for a nice double with st nich who as a single was 2/11 this morning returned 8/11!!
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  • Curt360x27Curt360x27
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: The Derby:
    we will see  it will win st.ledger (triple crown) when wins st.ledger, did frankel win triple crown, NO as they knew it wouldn't stay distance, so if CAMELOT wins st.ledger surly must at least be as high as FRANKEL ifnot surpass it. we will see, cant wait to see CAMELOT again and hopfully be kept in training next year to see against the mighty FRANKEL. i very much doubt the 2 will race each other but you never know.
    Posted by ms-tree
    Frankel will stay all day long. He'll easily get 10f and 12f. If they had any doubts about him staying they would have snapped retired him at the end of his 3yo career.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2012
    curt i was ment to point out that i dont think FRANKEL would stay the 1m6f st ledger, ifso why didn't they go for triple crown last year with him???

    CAMELOT will stay this far, better race would be to see the two in next years coronation, but i know it will not happen. as CAMELOT will retire after st.ledger (as owners would have a horse to bred, as lost mountjeu which died this year)   just cant belive o'brein has got a horse to sire so quickly all happy days in the o'brien camp.

    gl all if having bet today.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2012
    ms tree

    Love your love of Camelot and if he wins St Ledger he will be first colt since Nijinsky to do it so will go down in history. As to your hope of a race against Frankel, it wont happen because Frankel will be retired at end of this season and anyway he didnt even run in Derby let alone St Ledger so he isnt the same kind of horse as Camelot.

    However I suggest that Frankel at his optimum distances 6f to one mile 2f will be the best horse of his generation, if not of all time. By the way I think Black Caviar will also go down as the best female. Cant wait for them to be mated.

    Camelot might turn out well but will not be seen in the same light as Frankel in the future.  Just like Nijinsky could never be held in the same esteem as the great Brigadier Gerard.

    By the way Frankel rating at end of last season 143 only one point behind the Brigadier and Tudor Minstrel and two behind Sea Bird the greatest so far. That will rise if he continues to win everything. Camelot rated 130 after his Derby win.


    Father V
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2012
    father regarding black caviar, i have my reservations over this horse until the horse wins over here.

    hope black caviar does race at royal ascot, as like many inc. myself  not the great it should be unless beats best of europe.

    we will see, gl all having a bet.
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  • IDONKCALLUIDONKCALLU
    edited June 2012
    imo it was a very weak derby u had a group 3 horse that was 2nd favourite in the race says it all really camelot is not in the same league as frankel 
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2012
    I agree ms tree about Black Caviar but from what i have seen so far , never off the bridle. I also wonder what she will find if put under pressure.
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