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When is enough enough

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  • edited November 2009
    Unfortunately, you will never get rid of the fish because you will find them at every level. Your game appears to be good so there's no need to change it much. We all go through stages like the one you're going through now, I spent the whole of October throwing my laptop around the room wondering how I could be so unlucky!! Full houses being beaten by quads on the river, sets beaten by straights, straights beaten by runner runner flushes..... the list goes on and on! Sometimes the poker gods just aren't with you. All it takes is one good run in a tourney and you'll be back to your best....HONEST!!

    IT'S ALL IN THE MIND!!!

    GL in the Primo, hopefully we'll see you on the final table and all will be well again! ;-)
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: When is enough enough:
    In Response to Re: When is enough enough : i did not raise much larger because i was waiting to see what the flop produced (Ace) but seen as tho no card were on the table at this point his raise was 3X the BB, my raise was in theory 5X the big blind (or does it not work like that)..still no cards on the table....the flop gave me the 3rd king....at that time Mr C was fishing for the straight based on the flop. This was early in the MTT & every1 was pretty even with the chips..... My beef being this has been happening alot to me just recently....i choose my cards (dont play every hand) & the flops are poor. I fold my cards & the flop produces???? Does playing larger price MTT guarantee me a better quality of player, as loosing smallamount regular doesn't seem to be paying off at the mo, or is that totally irrelevant also....
    Posted by borobabe09
    I'm not sure what the Sky guys advocate here, but it seems a couple of poster have stated that they felt your reraise was a bit on the light side.

    What I was always told was if you are the first into the pot pre flop then you raise by x BB.

    However if you are looking to raise a raiser pre flop then dependant upon how many players are to act behind you then you should be looking to raise between 2 -4 times the initial raise, so in this case between 600 and 1200. Now with a premium hand you want a customer so you may look to raise to 600, however given that you have 2 players still to act as well as the blinds a raise of 900 may have been more appropriate.

    With your raise of 500, player E was getting odds of approx 2-1 to call, which that player may have considered decent odds for his hand ( we dont know what this player had), once he came in pre flop then player c only needed to call 200 into a pot of apporx 1500, so had pre flop odds of 7-1 to call your raise. Once the flop came down you were going to struggle to get rid of him.

    If you had made your raise 900 pre flop instead of 500, then player E would only be getting odds of 1.5 to 1, your reriase suggests strength and hence he would probably fold, or reriase you but unlikely to call. Player C would then be left with having to callout of position a bet of 600 for odds of approx 2-1. That in itself would get rid of a lot of players, but there are players like myself who in that situation look down and see a hand like 7,8 or 9 T and think for the 2-1 odds its worth calling pre flop, dependant upon how we view the reraiser, and see what the flop brings, however this wouldnt be based on what my cards are, but on how I view your game, and the likelyhood of getting paid if I hit big, as well as my chip stack.

    I cant comment too much upon your style of play as Ive never played you, but cant argue with the advice given by others so far. The one post I would like to emphasise is the one by Big Bluster

    Poker is a game of people played with cards. It is not a game of cards played by people.
    Play the person, not the cards.


    I know you have not read any books, but if you do get a chance read page 18 of volume 1 of Harrington on Hold Em.

    He states that there are 11 elements that need to be considered to justify if you have a playable hand or not. The cards you hold is the 11th thing he considers or says he considers, and that is why I wanted to quote Big Blusters post

    I wish you the best of luck in the future and rest assured that proper play is more profitable than fishy play in the long term.

  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: When is enough enough:
    Unfortunately, you will never get rid of the fish because you will find them at every level. Your game appears to be good so there's no need to change it much. We all go through stages like the one you're going through now, I spent the whole of October throwing my laptop around the room wondering how I could be so unlucky!! Full houses being beaten by quads on the river, sets beaten by straights, straights beaten by runner runner flushes..... the list goes on and on! Sometimes the poker gods just aren't with you. All it takes is one good run in a tourney and you'll be back to your best....HONEST!! IT'S ALL IN THE MIND!!! GL in the Primo, hopefully we'll see you on the final table and all will be well again! ;-)
    Posted by DiggerMan

    can you please tell me where i can find one of these laptops,

  • edited November 2009

    Like the majority above have said you are playing the way the game should be played... but on the flip side you sometimes need to mix your game & play those hands you wouldn't normally in order to confuse & bluff the other players.  Just stick at it & try not to get wound up by bad beats, a lot of these fish's will be looking for you to go on tilt & you'll be playing right into their hands.

    Good Luck!!! :)

  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: When is enough enough:
    In Response to Re: When is enough enough : can you please tell me where i can find one of these laptops,
    Posted by IRISHROVER
    Of course IRISHROVER, you'll find most of them in the bin!
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: When is enough enough:
    In Response to Re: When is enough enough : Of course IRISHROVER, you'll find most of them in the bin!
    Posted by DiggerMan
    ty for your help lol
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: When is enough enough:
    babe oh babe oh babe you is my m8y but, you is a feather in a windy day , but when this wind goes, to be sure to be sure your game will be one of greatness, you shall go forth and sometimes even better , maybe first, so now go my a little feather friend, and do not let these fish get to you , on a serious note , dohhhhhhhhh , you are a good player do not change your game, bet big from the off and take down the pots before the dreaded river . yours forever ,                         the roving Irishman
    Posted by IRISHROVER
    Lol Thanks IRISH you make me giggle
    from your little Feathered friend
    xx
  • edited November 2009
    it sounds like uve "read" to much about poker, i play my own game and follow my instincts.
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