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Abuse

edited July 2012 in Poker Chat
I play a lot of Dym's and and i'm shocked by the 'chat' that i keep seeing.

Just played a game and every time one player lost a pot he wrote 'Fxxx Off'.

How can people get so upset over poker let alone a £3 Dym?

In another of my games a player was accused of being 'not so smart' and (how original' 'a bingo player'.
This clearly upset him as he commented that he just fancied a game of poker in his lunch break and didn't like the comments.

What do we achieve by abusing players in this sort of manner?
Surely we want players to get their money in bad as over the long run we will win.
Yes of course they will win sometimes but we want the players that we perceive ourselves having an edge over playing poker.

If they just fancy a game but get a lot of grief when they do log on to the tables then they will just stop playing, who can blame them.

I have in the past occasionally let myself down and made comments and immediately felt bad afterwasrds.
I'm determined not to do this anymore and it would be great if others could do the same.

Poker is a wonderful game and and should be enjoyed, let's not put people off from joining in.

It is only a minority i realise and in the main there is  good 'banter' at the tables in most of my games, just a shame it can be spoiled by the few.
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  • edited July 2012
    i must admit that i am guilty o throwing the odd insult around after getting beat by someone who played the hand pretty bad. its a heat of the moment thing.

     i am getting slightly better at holding my tongue as i do realise that im going to win against these types of players in the long run.
     its just the short term that angers me. when you have spent say 3 or 4 hours in a tourny only to get ko'd by an absolute shockingly bad play.
     
     i dont think i'd be bothered about it so much in a dym as these are really short, really fast tournies. so no need to get so bothered about being sucked out on.

     i doubt it will ever change tho. you will always get people like that (me included :D , less often than before tho,lol) that will always feel hard done by and be willing to tell the opponent how he feels about them.

    good luck on the felts
  • edited July 2012
    If you experience any abuse at the table, report it to Customer Care and they will deal with it accordingly.

    There's a big difference between venting frustration and outright abuse in my opinion, and nobody should be subjected to abuse whilst trying to enjoy a game of poker, regardless of the situation.
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    If you experience any abuse at the table, report it to Customer Care and they will deal with it accordingly. There's a big difference between venting frustration and outright abuse in my opinion, and nobody should be subjected to abuse whilst trying to enjoy a game of poker, regardless of the situation.
    Posted by Slykllist
    oh yeah, i must add. i never ever call anybody personally offensive things. i think that is totally wrong. i just comment on how bad they played that hand and how lucky they are lol.

     i hate that sort of stuff.
     i mean i ko'd someone before after sucking out(didnt play the hand bad, just got lucky)
     and the guy was fuming and started calling me allsorts and then wished my kids would die. i was absolutely upset about this as i have a 2year old girl. i thought this was totally outrageous and so uncalled for.

     i dont know how anyone can come out and say things like this ever. let alone after only getting ko'd from a $1 tournament. there are some horrible people out there.

    good luck and hope you never have this sort of abuse aimed at you. no one should ever have to experience such things.
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  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    I just comment on how bad they played that hand and how lucky they are lol. 
    Posted by Hurley00
    I think this is just as annoying.

    Find people who are arrogant enough to tell others how to play, one of the most annoying things on site. 

    Ironically most of the times I see people accused of calling bad, it's usually almost a 50:50 flip like a pocket pair against 2 over cards. Then the loser decides to ridicule the other guy over their call.

    See it all the time and it's cringe worthy. PLAY YOUR OWN GAME!
  • edited July 2012
    IMO there should be a report abuse button on each table where it will send info to sky and they can then deal with it whichever way they feel appropriate.

    I know its only words etc etc but alot of players play the game for fun and to chill out and having someone cursing and swearing at you in chat for whatever reason is just not called for.
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    IMO there should be a report abuse button on each table where it will send info to sky and they can then deal with it whichever way they feel appropriate. I know its only words etc etc but alot of players play the game for fun and to chill out and having someone cursing and swearing at you in chat for whatever reason is just not called for.
    Posted by _ARAZI_
    I couldn't agree more.

    I also feel that criticism of another's play is both arrogant and ill-mannered and should not be tolerated.
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    In Response to Re: Abuse : I couldn't agree more. I also feel that criticism of another's play is both arrogant and ill-mannered and should not be tolerated.
    Posted by 4EVERGREEN
     Just because criticising someone else's play is arrogant and ill-mannered, it does not mean it should not be tolerated.

     Have you got a good reason why it should not be tolerated?
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Abuse:
    I agree abuse concerning Poker should not be tolerated!!!.When you have players who cannot tell the difference between,the lottery, bingo and poker, it's not their fault, be nice to them,in fact praise them,they are just having fun,after all Poker is just a fun game.
  • edited July 2012
    "Poker is a wonderful game" I agree, but its also a game for adults.

    Do we all act on our best behaviour at football matches, or competitive sports in general?

    Obv people can cross the line and ought to be penalised if they do so.  But there is always going to be an accepted under-current of ego, bravado, testosterone, kneedling and psychology to the game. 

    Plus NLHE is a mentally challenging game and you almost have to be a robot not to react.

    But this is all part of the draw of the game and I wouldnt have it any other way.  Think long about your most satisfactory moments in poker and how they perhaps relate to owning certain player types..........

    I would say that most people need to develop thicker skin, but seems the WSOP are pandering to this mentality over the last 2 years so what do I know........

    5 years from now all players will be sat behind a screen with a HUD of stack size, bet size and VPIP %. The only verbal communication allowed (and demanded) being intentions of actions - in a likely stephen Hawkings esque synthesized voice.
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    In Response to Re: Abuse :  Just because criticising someone else's play is arrogant and ill-mannered, it does not mean it should not be tolerated.  Have you got a good reason why it should not be tolerated?
    Posted by oynutter
    I obviously phrased my post badly and should have added the words, "in my opinion", so I so I suppose it depends on whether you consider a personal opinion a good reason.

    I should add that I haven't been the recipient of such treatment and haven't been guilty of it, I just find  arrogance and bad manners offensive on general principles and don't think it should ever be considered acceptable.

    As I say, a personal view.
  • edited July 2012
    intolerance is offensive imo
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    intolerance is offensive imo
    Posted by oynutter
    If by that you mean that you feel I'm intolerant of bad manners and and you find that offensive, then I apologise but I plead guilty as charged.

    However, I have no intention of getting into a lengthy argument about it, life's too short and I have to go to work now anyway so this will be my last word on the subject.

    Have a good night on the tables.
  • edited July 2012
    People with bad manners should be shot on sight, unless they ask politely to be allowed to live, and promise to go straight back to finishing school !!!
  • edited July 2012
    Couldn't agree more. Report them. I do and don't hesitate. If they ruin your fun and no doubt others then why put up with them 'chatting'. They will get a ban.
  • edited July 2012
    A chat ban isn't good enough for them, shooting isn't good enough!!-- Tie them to a tree and let them politely ask a lion not to eat them I say!!!
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    A chat ban isn't good enough for them, shooting isn't good enough!!-- Tie them to tree and let them politely ask a lion not to eat them I say!!!
    Posted by oynutter
    +1
  • edited July 2012
    A lion isn't good enough!!--- Let them ask a hippo with blunt teeth not to eat them!!!!
  • edited July 2012
    I think abusive players should be banned or at least chat banned.

    I play on here for a bit of fun after working hard all day.  Last thing I want is some idiot swearing at me in the chat box because they lost two quid.

     It's funny that the abusive players are happy to shout abuse and criticise other people's game, when they clearly don't have the ability to step themselves tilting which is an important part of the game.
  • edited July 2012


    Rest assured we do take appropriate action against people we spot being abusive as well as those reported to us. Please do help us by reporting anything you think goes too far to customer care.

    Thank you
    Sky Poker
  • edited July 2012
    "gone to far" being pretty relevant.

    Had to listen to two players rant at each following one say NH at showdown after hand played out AIPF (until I remembered there is a mute button).

    Abuse is subjective and open to common sense.

    But if people cant have thick skin or just click MUTE over a player, how do they expect to deal with prickly characters live?

    Frustration and grudges/history is good for the game.  Have to be clear what is abuse and what is standard.  ABUSE needing consequences, but the rest....myeh.

    Often people are abusing themselves or how unfortunate they are a board ran out certain ways, people often mistakenly believe the abuse is directed at a player/opponent.  When often times its just at the poo situatiom.
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    IMO there should be a report abuse button on each table where it will send info to sky and they can then deal with it whichever way they feel appropriate. I know its only words etc etc but alot of players play the game for fun and to chill out and having someone cursing and swearing at you in chat for whatever reason is just not called for.
    Posted by _ARAZI_
    +1

    this must makes so much sense to skypoker.  simple logic...

    abusive language /> ease to alert /> more alerts > more bans > less abuse > fewer players leave > more players join in

    and all they need to do is have an abuse alert button that registers against a player's name.  investigated.  three abuses = 1 month ban.  re-offenders = complete ban.

    it is in skypoker's interest too

    abuse button = increased revenues



  • edited July 2012
    That aussie09 dosn't get enough abuse imo!
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    If you experience any abuse at the table, report it to Customer Care and they will deal with it accordingly. There's a big difference between venting frustration and outright abuse in my opinion, and nobody should be subjected to abuse whilst trying to enjoy a game of poker, regardless of the situation.
    Posted by Slykllist
    sadlly customer care team are not doing what they can on some occations. a well know abusive player on the site started on a table my wife was playing at even though he had been taken out of the game for well over an hour he just kept on spewing abuse at people including my wife this was reported because the chat turned realy vile the next two days later same player on site dishing out abuse. as a result she will only occationaly play on here. its a real shame as generaly its all very pleasant on here. but it is like that also on some over sites there always is a certain number of bad losers every place..
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    In Response to Re: Abuse : sadlly customer care team are not doing what they can on some occations. a well know abusive player on the site started on a table my wife was playing at even though he had been taken out of the game for well over an hour he just kept on spewing abuse at people including my wife this was reported because the chat turned realy vile the next two days later same player on site dishing out abuse. as a result she will only occationaly play on here. its a real shame as generaly its all very pleasant on here. but it is like that also on some over sites there always is a certain number of bad losers every place..
    Posted by rosjim1
    Please PM us the details rosjim and we will look into this.
  • edited July 2012
    Seriously people it's a comptetive game there is going to a bit of 'abuse' thrown at you from time to time. If you can't deal with seeing a naughty word in the chat box or someone calling you a 'donk' I think you need to take a look at yourself before even thinking about reporting someone!
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    Seriously people it's a comptetive game there is going to a bit of 'abuse' thrown at you from time to time. If you can't deal with seeing a naughty word in the chat box or someone calling you a 'donk' I think you need to take a look at yourself before even thinking about reporting someone!
    Posted by Curt360x27

    totally agree. i am certain though that you don't believe that abuse is limited to that, surely? if it is you have a valid point.


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  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    In Response to Re: Abuse : totally agree. i am certain though that you don't believe that abuse is limited to that, surely? if it is you have a valid point. .
    Posted by aussie09
    Of course not. There are people out there who will say some disgraceful things in the chat box and over step the mark by a long way.
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Abuse:
    In Response to Re: Abuse : Of course not. There are people out there who will say some disgraceful things in the chat box and over step the mark by a long way.
    Posted by Curt360x27

    yes, exactly.


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