Even still though I think if we let someone who is clearly uneducated and has nothing better to do with there time effect us (no matter how bad there abuse is) I think we need to toughen up a little. Just my opinion.
separate to that though is the plea to sky to make it easier to report those who are abusive. the end result will be to make the playing environment more attractive to new players and those less thick skinned than you and me. the end result is to our collective benefit.
the only problem with the abuse button is that it will get abused by people. some people will use it even if there has been no abuse. people will just press it because joe bloggs just rivered them out of a tourny and they think it will be fun to press the button, this will give sky customer services even more on there plate and not being funny its not the greatest service at the moment. I am all for something along those lines to make it easier for you to complain about these people
Yes, excellent point! Along with an abuse button we need an abuse of the "abuse button" button.... then an abuse of the "abuse of the "abuse button" button" button... and so on.
I like to get creatvie with my abuse. One of my favourites is:
"Sir! I am most perturbed by your outdrawing of me! I must insist that you return my chips forthwith and make a donation in my name to a fluffy bunny charity!"
Donkey charities work just as well but that implies I have some sort of affinity with donkeys... and I don't.
the only problem with the abuse button is that it will get abused by people. some people will use it even if there has been no abuse. people will just press it because joe bloggs just rivered them out of a tourny and they think it will be fun to press the button, this will give sky customer services even more on there plate and not being funny its not the greatest service at the moment. I am all for something along those lines to make it easier for you to complain about these people Posted by ste1722
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As in the example above, there is a report abuse for posts in the forum. I'm sure this is not abused, but if we had a "report abuse" button at the tables, I could see that unless changes in the "Terms & Condition" were implemented right from the start it would be easy for people to abuse it.
If the "Terms and Conditions" stated "Anyone found using the "Report Abuse" button without due cause, will immediately have their chat privileges suspended" then I think this would resolve any misunderstandings as to its use.
I for one will not tolerate abuse at the tables, whether it is directed at me or anyone else at the table and I always write this in the chat box if I see anything getting out of hand:
"Please refrain from using offensive language in the chat box, your chat will be logged and reported"
This seams to work on majority of time and stops abuse from getting out of hand. It also sends a little reminder to the frustrated player/players and helps them calm down. In alot of instances we have had some very pleasant chats after and the table is at pease once again
In Response to Re: Abuse : New post Reply to this post Report Abuse Ignore aussie09 Contact aussie09 As in the example above, there is a report abuse for posts in the forum. I'm sure this is not abused, but if we had a "report abuse" button at the tables, I could see that unless changes in the "Terms & Condition" were implemented right from the start it would be easy for people to abuse it. If the "Terms and Conditions" stated "Anyone found using the "Report Abuse" button without due cause, will immediately have their chat privileges suspended" then I think this would resolve any misunderstandings as to its use. I for one will not tolerate abuse at the tables, whether it is directed at me or anyone else at the table and I always write this in the chat box if I see anything getting out of hand: "Please refrain from using offensive language in the chat box, your chat will be logged and reported" This seams to work on majority of time and stops abuse from getting out of hand. It also sends a little reminder to the frustrated player/players and helps them calm down. In alot of instances we have had some very pleasant chats after and the table is at pease once again Posted by POKERTREV
perfect trev.
i do the same by warning if they continue etc. strangely sometimes they do continue.
so all that is left is for skypoker to implement and operate such a system.
Can Sky not add a button to a player avatar, to disable individual chat? Other sites have a function where you can switch off any players chat. Better if an avatar had upto 9 symbols to show how many players had blocked chat.
the abusive player should have their chat privileges taken away. there can be a button on the table to initiate a report.
i am not in favour of a solution that merely masks the abuse. that's like sepp blatter suggesting a handshake after a match will resolve football racism.
abusive player /> simple reporting mechanism > abusive player no longer able to be abusive > nicer tables > nicer players on skypoker > more players on skypoker > increased revenues to skypoker
abusive player /> no simple reporting mechanism > abusive player able to be abusive > not nice tables > nicer players on other sites > fewer players on skypoker > decreased revenues to skypoker
I'm pretty sure Skypoker have looked deeply into this problem. It is impossible for us to see the problem from skypokers point of view-- we don't know the numbers---- we also have no real idea where they draw the line--- is it 35% above the average level of general abuse?--- Surely Britain and Ireland are far too rude to have a zero tolerance approach.
Imagine the Man/woman hours involved in investigating every press of a button, It would probably require a whole new department--- personally, I do feel assured that Sky have done their sums on this one, and have come up with the best solution under the circumstances---- And lets face it--- These are circumstances we know very little about.
I have abused players in the past, I am sorry. Bad play annoys me, I know I want to play bad players but when they suck out in the short term it is very frustrating. If I abuse anyone reading this in the future please do not take my comments too seriously. I know there is much much more to life than a game of online poker.
I have abused players in the past, I am sorry. Bad play annoys me, I know I want to play bad players but when they suck out in the short term it is very frustrating. If I abuse anyone reading this in the future please do not take my comments too seriously. I know there is much much more to life than a game of online poker. Posted by BUFC
+1 It's impossible not to get a little frustrated sometimes on this site. I just laugh now, but in the past - my computer has nearly gone out the window a few times.
How about a NICE tournament, where everyone that wants to play must click on a button to promise to be really nice to everybody, and not write rude words in the chat box, not even wonkey
Don't get me wrong i'm not being overly sensitive. I play live and without a thick skin you would struggle to play at some places. I guess face to face it is easier to see see if it's just banter or a bit more than that. Being abused doesn't particulary bother me because generally it means you've just won a hand!
As a regular in the dym's what i don't like is when i see players who have rarely played before and are probably just trying out poker and enjoying themselves get the 'idiot' 'donk' and then the horrible ' hope you get ill' kind of stuff thrown at them. It serves no purpose other than to dissuade people from playing.
Interesting reponses. Don't get me wrong i'm not being overly sensitive. I play live and without a thick skin you would struggle to play at some places. I guess face to face it is easier to see see if it's just banter or a bit more than that. Being abused doesn't particulary bother me because generally it means you've just won a hand! As a regular in the dym's what i don't like is when i see players who have rarely played before and are probably just trying out poker and enjoying themselves get the 'idiot' 'donk' and then the horrible ' hope you get ill' kind of stuff thrown at them. It serves no purpose other than to dissuade people from playing. Posted by Jac35
These are the people that are just plain nasty people, no-one needs them around, not even a business--- I would say most of them get reported and banned quite early---- But calling people an idiot or a donkey is something that happens every day, on every table, on every site, and if sky banned them for that, how many people would still have chat privileges?--- If you look in "brags, beats and variance", and in "area51", you can see how frustrated some beginners get (especially young men), it seems they don't understand much about the odds (eg j-10 vs a-k-- 60-40 ish)-- These people mostly learn and settle down after a while--- Poker is probably the most frustrating game ever played for money---- I know for a fact that many of these frustrated young men are really nice people that are loved and respected by their friends and family---- They act extremely out of character whilst trying to learn poker by losing money--- I'd say most of them have never been so confused in their whole lives! (except perhaps by a lady)--- Give them a break I say-- A warning and some poker education will usually suffice.
One thing that would be easy to implement would be a warning that pops up in the chat box when a banned word is typed. Posted by oynutter
this happens already with asterisks.
on that basis, those who circumvent the censorsorship by using spaces (or the like) to be abusive are totally aware of their actions and should not be in doubt of the consequences.
so, good idea, the warning system is already in place, therefore immediate sanction.
In Response to Re: Abuse : this happens already with asterisks. on that basis, those who circumvent the censorsorship by using spaces (or the like) to be abusive are totally aware of their actions and should not be in doubt of the consequences. so, good idea, the warning system is already in place, therefore immediate sanction. Posted by aussie09
But they are not necessarily abusing anyone by typing in a banned word-- I just thought perhaps a verbal warning in the chat box at this stage might be enough warning to stop some people doing so in the future.
If i see someone going to far with abuse i,ll post in the chatbox that i,m reporting them. If they still don,t shut up i do then report them.
TBH it doesn,t bother me in the slightest although it did when i first started a few years back
It bothers me more when i see others getting the abuse as they could be new , just playing for fun or having there play mocked esp late on Friday or Saturday nights by drunken idiots who can,t take a bad beat
For me its difficult to understand how you can be offended by being verbal abused by someone who have never seen you, no idea of your gender, skin colour, religion, and probably live many many miles away from yourself, who btw will probably be the worst player at the table! and sitting in front of a computer screen litening to justin bieber!!
Also these "abuse" threads make the issue seem a much bigger problem than what it actually is, i have been here for ages and i rarely see any chat at the tables let alone abusive chat, maybe its only a problem at the micros? i don't know, but highlighting it on threads just make it seem its a huge problem on sky when it actually isn't.
you are unaware/unaffected yet conclude that all is fine? Posted by aussie09
You have probably misinterpret my post seeing that your assumption has quite a broad meaning; if " all is fine" as in everything is not out of the ordinary then yes! this is a poker room after all, you are bound to get a few hot-headed people about when money is involved, also these rants don't generally last long.
Still i don't think its fine when people abuse the chat with racist words, reg illnesses etc and they should be reported/banned, but this is very rare from my experience with sky in fact i cant think of a time that it has happened. Its not a big problem like these threads make out it to be, like its the cause of people leaving sky because of it, it's simply not true.
In Response to Re: Abuse : You have probably misinterpret my post seeing that your assumption has quite a broad meaning; if " all is fine" as in everything is not out of the ordinary then yes! this is a poker room after all, you are bound to get a few hot-headed people about when money is involved, also these rants don't generally last long. Still i don't think its fine when people abuse the chat with racist words, reg illnesses etc and they should be reported/banned, but this is very rare from my experience with sky in fact i cant think of a time that it has happened. Its not a big problem like these threads make out it to be, like its the cause of people leaving sky because of it, it's simply not true. Posted by WHOAMI196
How are you able to decide 'people leaving sky because of it, it's simply not true'? How do you know this? In a card room this would not be tolerated yet the 'brave' people in their living rooms are able to do this.
It happens on all sites and is not just peculiar to SKY. I understand what you are saying mainly but to say it is very rare and some of things said you have never seen happen, really? I feel it probably is an issue far more at the low stakes as the higher you go the more likelihood of experienced players who have seen all the bad beats etc before and are more serious about the game and profits then bothering with the rants.
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separate to that though is the plea to sky to make it easier to report those who are abusive. the end result will be to make the playing environment more attractive to new players and those less thick skinned than you and me. the end result is to our collective benefit.
misuse of the "abuse button" will mean the service is withdrawn (ignored).
I like to get creatvie with my abuse. One of my favourites is:
"Sir! I am most perturbed by your outdrawing of me! I must insist that you return my chips forthwith and make a donation in my name to a fluffy bunny charity!"
Donkey charities work just as well but that implies I have some sort of affinity with donkeys... and I don't.
Wondered why everyone is so nice to me ! :-)
As in the example above, there is a report abuse for posts in the forum. I'm sure this is not abused, but if we had a "report abuse" button at the tables, I could see that unless changes in the "Terms & Condition" were implemented right from the start it would be easy for people to abuse it.
If the "Terms and Conditions" stated "Anyone found using the "Report Abuse" button without due cause, will immediately have their chat privileges suspended" then I think this would resolve any misunderstandings as to its use.
I for one will not tolerate abuse at the tables, whether it is directed at me or anyone else at the table and I always write this in the chat box if I see anything getting out of hand:
"Please refrain from using offensive language in the chat box, your chat will be logged and reported"
This seams to work on majority of time and stops abuse from getting out of hand. It also sends a little reminder to the frustrated player/players and helps them calm down. In alot of instances we have had some very pleasant chats after and the table is at pease once again
i do the same by warning if they continue etc. strangely sometimes they do continue.
so all that is left is for skypoker to implement and operate such a system.
it's a win/win/win solution.
Other sites have a function where you can switch off any players chat.
Better if an avatar had upto 9 symbols to show how many players had blocked chat.
the abusive player should have their chat privileges taken away. there can be a button on the table to initiate a report.
i am not in favour of a solution that merely masks the abuse. that's like sepp blatter suggesting a handshake after a match will resolve football racism.
abusive player /> simple reporting mechanism > abusive player no longer able to be abusive > nicer tables > nicer players on skypoker > more players on skypoker > increased revenues to skypoker
abusive player /> no simple reporting mechanism > abusive player able to be abusive > not nice tables > nicer players on other sites > fewer players on skypoker > decreased revenues to skypoker
Imagine the Man/woman hours involved in investigating every press of a button, It would probably require a whole new department--- personally, I do feel assured that Sky have done their sums on this one, and have come up with the best solution under the circumstances---- And lets face it--- These are circumstances we know very little about.
woops, wrong thread !
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Don't get me wrong i'm not being overly sensitive. I play live and without a thick skin you would struggle to play at some places.
I guess face to face it is easier to see see if it's just banter or a bit more than that.
Being abused doesn't particulary bother me because generally it means you've just won a hand!
As a regular in the dym's what i don't like is when i see players who have rarely played before and are probably just trying out poker and enjoying themselves get the 'idiot' 'donk' and then the horrible ' hope you get ill' kind of stuff thrown at them. It serves no purpose other than to dissuade people from playing.
on that basis, those who circumvent the censorsorship by using spaces (or the like) to be abusive are totally aware of their actions and should not be in doubt of the consequences.
so, good idea, the warning system is already in place, therefore immediate sanction.
TBH it doesn,t bother me in the slightest although it did when i first started a few years back
It bothers me more when i see others getting the abuse as they could be new , just playing for fun or having there play mocked esp late on Friday or Saturday nights by drunken idiots who can,t take a bad beat
you are unaware/unaffected yet conclude that all is fine?
In a card room this would not be tolerated yet the 'brave' people in their living rooms are able to do this.
It happens on all sites and is not just peculiar to SKY.
I understand what you are saying mainly but to say it is very rare and some of things said you have never seen happen, really?
I feel it probably is an issue far more at the low stakes as the higher you go the more likelihood of experienced players who have seen all the bad beats etc before and are more serious about the game and profits then bothering with the rants.