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Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker

edited August 2012 in Poker Chat
This post is one that i hope the sky poker team do not over look. We need bigger tournaments on sky poker. I am aware in order to have bigger tournaments you need more players to be taking part in such events but i am sure if there was bigger prize pools for the kind of money that would be closer to life changing sums then that would generate enough players. The prize pools seem to be going down, the tournaments seem to have less players and less money involved. Hopefully you have some fresh new ideas sky? I welcome a reply from the sky poker team
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  • edited August 2012
    I believe guarantees are going down at the moment because of the time of year. People tend to not play as much poker in the summer when it's sunny (yes, that's a bit of a joke in this country lol) and the Olympics is probably reducing traffic.

    To get a 1st prize which is really life changing, the buy-in will either need to be massive or the number of runners massive. Tourneys on here don't get over 500 runners so that leaves massive buy-ins which will only reduce the numbers of runners taking part.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    I believe guarantees are going down at the moment because of the time of year. People tend to not play as much poker in the summer when it's sunny (yes, that's a bit of a joke in this country lol) and the Olympics is probably reducing traffic. To get a 1st prize which is really life changing, the buy-in will either need to be massive or the number of runners massive. Tourneys on here don't get over 500 runners so that leaves massive buy-ins which will only reduce the numbers of runners taking part.
    Posted by Lambert180
    Yeah i can understand that but bigger prize pools will attract more players. Not even life changing but regular tournaments where you could win 10k or something. Offerering better welcome bonuses will get more players on the site. Would just like to see some bigger and better tournaments. The 25k roller ones that happen every now and then would be good every couple of weeks
  • edited August 2012
    Something different is needed, such as a 2 day tournament...
  • edited August 2012

    Dont think its a secret, and hope I'm not wrong, but think there is goin to start being a 'Super Roller' soon, once a month, with satelites into it, which hopefully I might qualify for one day?!

  • edited August 2012
    Elsewhere, there is jackpot that constantly grows until someone hits a royal flush with spades. I think something like that encourages people to play regularly. The current skypoker jackpot for the main and mini events is only available to people who play at the time of day when those tournies run. It is not available to all players
  • edited August 2012
    Youre basically saying "if you build it they will come" but the bigger buyin touneys have failed to consistently beat GTDs so this is clearly not the case. Sky just cant blow their whole budget offering massive GTDs praying that thousands will sign up and play regularly. It'll be a gradual process.
  • edited August 2012
    Yeah offshoot is right even though it is frustrating as an mtt players seeing the GTEs get lower and seeing how big they are on other sites where it is life changing. But it does have to be gradual, as much as id love to see bigger tournies with big GTEs and more runners its just not going to happen, no doubt the site will continue to grow and larger Mtts will eventually be drafted in but its not going to happen overnight.

    I for one hope the next step is to introduce some more freezeouts, with skys Mtts focus being on BHs it seems to me that growth in MTTs is being limited purely because people will not join the site if they dont like Bhs as there are not enough big freezeouts. Also the freezeouts (and Bhs mostly) range from 11 pounds tops for freezeouts and then suddenly one 110 pound one! The biggest BH is 33 pound and this now runs once at 6.30 and thats it apart from the MEs. Personally more 22-55 pound freezeouts are needed, they only need small GTEs to start.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    Something different is needed, such as a 2 day tournament...
    Posted by patwalshh
    Hmm, like this idea. More 15 minute blinds we need.
  • edited August 2012
    far too many micro tourneys here. I looked at the tournaments starting in the next hour about 6 hours ago and there was like 4 satellites, 1 £2 timed tournament and 1 turbo
  • edited August 2012
    There def needs to be a wider range of tournaments but for me its nice that tourny's dont go on all day and its nice that the majority are done within 3-4 hours but then i just play the smaller events online £1-10 and its offline where im prepared to pay bigger sum's ...

    The schedule is very "cramped" IMO but by bringing in late reg, it does mean prizepools get bigger and thats at all levels!
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    far too many micro tourneys here. I looked at the tournaments starting in the next hour about 6 hours ago and there was like 4 satellites, 1 £2 timed tournament and 1 turbo
    Posted by percival09

    +1
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    Something different is needed, such as a 2 day tournament...
    Posted by patwalshh
    Surely if you have the bankroll to enter all tournaments
    What good is a two day online tournament?

    I know you're one of the top players on the site and have a proven, winning track record.
    Surely, to commit yourself to a two day tournament when you know the field is not going to be large enough to compensate the potential winnings you could be making on the cash tables is a backward step?

    Higher value one day tournaments or a progressive tournament based on performance over say a month where the bulk of the tariff goes towards a monthly final table for all the top performers I can understand, but I just can't get my head round how you expect to get value from a two day tournament which realistically is unlikely to get more than a couple of hundred runners at best. I base my comment on bankrolls and time commitment.
    Am I missing the point? or are there significantly greater numbers in a position to enter such a tournament?
  • edited August 2012
    The ukops that come around a couple of times a year attract bigger players onto the site. However i don think that a regular big tournament will do the same thing. The two day tournament is a good idea as it will allow a nice deep structure such as the 2 day spt's and would get people more prepared for the bigger live tourneys out there.

    A £55 buy in might be a nice size of tourney once a week as well but that will have to wait for the summer to dissapate as numbers are drastically down on the site atm.
  • edited August 2012
    I'd say a 2 day tournament isn't particularly necessary. You can acheive the same quality of structure as a 2-day SPT online in 1 day because online play is so much faster. What might be 1hr blinds live, is only gonna be say 20 minute blinds online, so can't see any reason for 2 day unless it was an enourmous field which isn't going to happen on Sky for the time being.
  • edited August 2012
    £500 is "life changing" for me....:(
  • edited August 2012
    I like the roller once a month they have started i think that is a good start. I also like the £4000 bounty hunter with £110 buy in that is a very good tournament. But i do agree with the comment about more freezeouts are needed rebuys make the playing standard go down i think. Maybe making ukops every 2 or 3 months would help things
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    I like the roller once a month they have started i think that is a good start. I also like the £4000 bounty hunter with £110 buy in that is a very good tournament. But i do agree with the comment about more freezeouts are needed rebuys make the playing standard go down i think. Maybe making ukops every 2 or 3 months would help things
    Posted by River_Due
    I hate when that happens!! I only play tournies where the likes of Ivey and Negreanu are registered.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    This post is one that i hope the sky poker team do not over look. We need bigger tournaments on sky poker. I am aware in order to have bigger tournaments you need more players to be taking part in such events but i am sure if there was bigger prize pools for the kind of money that would be closer to life changing sums then that would generate enough players. The prize pools seem to be going down, the tournaments seem to have less players and less money involved. Hopefully you have some fresh new ideas sky? I welcome a reply from the sky poker team
    Posted by River_Due
    Morning Mr Due.

    You make some fair points there. The Bigger Tournaments will come, over time, but it is a gradual process, it would not work if it happened overnight.

    Incidentally, given that you & others on this thread think there needs to be BIGGER Tourneys on Sky Poker, you may wish to take a look at the thread
    HERE in which many players complain that there needs to be SMALLER Tourneys on Sky Poker.
     




     
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker : I hate when that happens!! I only play tournies where the likes of Ivey and Negreanu are registered.
    Posted by Lambert180
    your boring.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    Something different is needed, such as a 2 day tournament...
    Posted by patwalshh
    This could be great idea!!

    like A SUPER, SUPER ROLLER!!!!

    ......say 8pm till 12pm or after on a fri, Sat and/or Sun nite!! Over a bank hol week end could be great, potentially 5 hours a nite over 2/3 nites  10/15 hours!!

    Could have a Deep Structure, & buyin could be large[£100] & Small [£10], like the ME & mini, with a double win bonus!!

    This could be the closest to a Vegas WSOP Main Event structure Sky have put on!!

    PS. I would smash this of course!!
  • edited August 2012
    I like the idea of a 2/3 day tournament over a weekend or even Bank hol weekend but I dont know if numbers would be that high. How many people over a BH weekend would commit to playing poker every evening over that weekend? Maybe during the winter months this would be better but I dont think this would take off over for example the August BH as surely people have plans?!
  • edited August 2012
    A 2 day tournament just won't work ATM. The longest tourney I have ever seen go was the Easter roller which lasted about 8-9 hours (correct me if I'm wrong)? This sort of time is standard of one days play in other 2 day tourneys. There isn't any point splitting it into 5 hour days or something, just play it out, if the tourney was going to last over 9 hours then maybe make it 2 days but sky don't have the numbers for it. Ideally you need 700+ runners in a good structured tourney to make this work properly. Also with sky being a British based company an 8pm start time to finish at 4 just won't work! So what time would you start it? 4 or 5 wold be ideal but pore would still be working? So on a bank holiday? Kinda limits your options with only uk residents generally playing.
  • edited August 2012
    Points Accepted!!

    but...........you never know till you try!!

    If It is promoted like the UKOPS, I think it would work, prob a 2/day 5/6 hours/nite type structure!!

    I'd be interested, imagine the interest from Sky players old/new for a £220 BI over 2 days 50/100+ runners perhaps, could be 25K + prize pool !!

    maybe doubled with a MINI£10/20  BI, with 200/300+ runners !!


    Anyway just thoughts.....
  • edited August 2012
    Actually.....the more I think of it .....

    This could be The Highlite of The NEXT UKOPS!!


    but then again sanity left the Hitman building long ago!!
  • edited August 2012

    Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker

    posted at 11/8/2012 10:45 PM BST on SkyPoker.com

    Points Accepted!!

    but...........you never know till you try!!

    If It is promoted like the UKOPS, I think it would work, prob a 2/day 5/6 hours/nite type structure!!

    I'd be interested, imagine the interest from Sky players old/new for a £220 BI over 2 days 50/100+ runners perhaps, could be 25K + prize pool !!

    maybe doubled with a MINI£10/20  BI, with 200/300+ runners !!


    Anyway just thoughts.....

    Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker

    posted at 11/8/2012 10:49 PM BST on SkyPoker.com

    Actually.....the more I think of it .....

    This could be The Highlite of The NEXT UKOPS!!


    but then again sanity left the Hitman building long ago!!

    Priceless........nice one Leader....lol


  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    Actually.....the more I think of it ..... This could be The Highlite of The NEXT UKOPS!! but then again sanity left the Hitman building long ago!!
    Posted by HITMAN_RV
    Dont get me wrong capo id love to see it i really would but its just not worth it imo. If a 220 one was sorted and it got 200+ runners then maybe it would work who knows. I just think the site hasnt developed enough yet for 2 dayers, would love to be proved wrong though!
  • edited August 2012
    I believe that more micro tournaments are needed. You've got to remember that most players play small stakes and are just playing for a bit of fun. You need to encourage these people to deposit here rather than other sites. For example I deposit £10 on here I can play 4 £2.20 bounty's or 9 £20 guaranteeds, Theres not much lower than that so thats my limit ( I only really like playing MTT's and MTSNG's)
    On another site I can play 100 sng's for $10, remember I'm in it for the fun I'm eventually expecting to lose my money. So were am I gonna deposit? not a tricky one.

    Introduce some 10p, 50p and £1 tournies and more people will deposit because they get more game time for their money.

    How does this benefit the higher stakes players?

    Any players that make a bit of profit at these lower stakes will have a go at the £2.30 bounties.
    The £2.30 bounty's can have a first place prize up over a hundred pounds sometimes. Have these running regularly and you will have a low stakes players with a hundred quid who may try his/her luck at higher stakes and be easy meat for you higher stakes players which is what you really want.


    Oh and more people winning the smaller tournaments will mean more people playing the bigger ones which means sky will have the incentive to introduce more.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    Elsewhere, there is jackpot that constantly grows until someone hits a royal flush with spades. I think something like that encourages people to play regularly. The current skypoker jackpot for the main and mini events is only available to people who play at the time of day when those tournies run. It is not available to all players
    Posted by QUICKFEET

    Do like your post there QUICKFEET but the Jackpot that Sky Poker has created is for a regular with theory
    a 1500quid bankroll to win so if they do cash. The money is going to stay in house so to speak.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    I believe that more micro tournaments are needed. You've got to remember that most players play small stakes and are just playing for a bit of fun. You need to encourage these people to deposit here rather than other sites. For example I deposit £10 on here I can play 4 £2.20 bounty's or 9 £20 guaranteeds, Theres not much lower than that so thats my limit ( I only really like playing MTT's and MTSNG's) On another site I can play 100 sng's for $10, remember I'm in it for the fun I'm eventually expecting to lose my money. So were am I gonna deposit? not a tricky one. Introduce some 10p, 50p and £1 tournies and more people will deposit because they get more game time for their money. How does this benefit the higher stakes players? Any players that make a bit of profit at these lower stakes will have a go at the £2.30 bounties. The £2.30 bounty's can have a first place prize up over a hundred pounds sometimes. Have these running regularly and you will have a low stakes players with a hundred quid who may try his/her luck at higher stakes and be easy meat for you higher stakes players which is what you really want. Oh and more people winning the smaller tournaments will mean more people playing the bigger ones which means sky will have the incentive to introduce more.
    Posted by Claire8347
    Like what your saying Claire but sky are interested in regular who despoit regularly and not for chancers to play micros tournements/sats and hit the jackpot.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker:
    In Response to Re: Bigger Tournaments needed on sky poker : Like what your saying Claire but sky are interested in regular who despoit regularly and not for chancers to play micros tournements/sats and hit the jackpot.
    Posted by chopos180
    You have to create regulars, there not going to come from other sites. Sorry guys but theres nothing sky offers that will tempt regulars from elsewere.

    Oh and by the way these low players will lose there money and deposit again I know because I do it, whats not regular about that?
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