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£33 mains

edited August 2012 in Poker Chat
Please can some one tell us y all the main are going up to £33
is the site trying to push a lot off the lower limt players away from playing ???????
It is not like the gu has gone up to make more come and play
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  • edited August 2012
    Please can u add your comments so we can see what people think ty
  • edited August 2012
    Are all the mains going up to £33... I didn't realise.

    If what you say is true, then it is a shame yes. I know alot of people want bigger MTTs because there's nothing much inbetween a £10 BI and a £110 BI but I don't think these should come at the cost of the mains.
  • edited August 2012


      yes have noticed the mains are going up in price

      problem is the guarentee prize pool is not going up

      surely if one goes up so should the other

      thats my opinion
  • edited August 2012
    i dunno why they are up the buying i know as its summer they dnt get as many players but y not lower the guarentee and stick to the £22 buy in ?
  • edited August 2012
    well 2 mins to start of tusdays main and only 165 in not great i dont think
  • edited August 2012
    Dint even reach prizepool. Unless a few ppl late reg i guess
  • edited August 2012
    11 mins in, 203 regged
  • edited August 2012

    Another decision taken with no consultation with the community.  Well done sky.  Clap.  Clap.   Clap

  • edited August 2012
    love how the old "drive lower stakes players away" line comes out everytime. Have they put the price of the mini main up too? 

    You realise that even @ £22, this is the most expensive daily MTT on the site? 

    --------------------------------------

    It's the turbo/donkey/fish players that are losing out, where has the Thews @ 10, the 500gtd velocity and the 250 gtd velocity gone?

  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: £33 mains:
    love how the old "drive lower stakes players away" line comes out everytime. Have they put the price of the mini main up too?  You realise that even @ £22, this is the most expensive daily MTT on the site?  -------------------------------------- It's the turbo/donkey/fish players that are losing out, where has the Thews @ 10, the 500gtd velocity and the 250 gtd velocity gone?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    OMG!

    please bring these back asap!

  • edited August 2012
    DOHHHHHHH i am not saying that there should not be bigger games. But how can u put the buy in up but keep the gu the same ??????
  • edited August 2012
    Thought id defend my title from last tuesday(brag lol) but a 50% increase  now theres inflation and theres taking the mick
  • edited August 2012
    Didnt know they were going up without pot increase does feel like using there reg players who are here still playing during summer as a poor decision.

    Of course in the BH it does offer some extra bounty value but not enough.

    I totally understand from a business point of view they need to reach the gtn but doing this could drive the numbers down so therefore defeating the object.

    I totally agree bring back the Velocity as it did used to a few years ago was what got a lot of us from new players to sky reg but that needs to have a decent gtn like it used to.

    Hope someone has another look at this and look at different options to get the gtn from rebuys unlimted to thews at 10 rebuy format. Personally more rebuy and freezout tornys will attract more players
  • edited August 2012

    Best to judge guarantees once we reach the autumn.
    Inevitable that numbers will drop in the summer, therefore follows that guarantees will be lower.

    As for increasing the cost of the buyin, personally I'm ok with it, but understand that it could start to exclude players who have been thus far, loyally playing the main each night.
    I guess the answer lies in the numbers - if, on average, entries decline, Sky will have to have to look at whether £33 vs £22 is the reason.

  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: £33 mains:
    love how the old "drive lower stakes players away" line comes out everytime. Have they put the price of the mini main up too?  You realise that even @ £22, this is the most expensive daily MTT on the site?  -------------------------------------- It's the turbo/donkey/fish players that are losing out, where has the Thews @ 10, the 500gtd velocity and the 250 gtd velocity gone?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH



    well said, £33 main events is the way forward!
  • edited August 2012
    I'm ok with £33 too, but understand that the increase may deter a few.  Of course it is the rake that matters to Sky, and an increase from £2 per player to £3 per player.  Therefore if the numbers fall from 300 (300@£2 = £600) to 200 (200@£3 = £600) during the summer they maintain their turnover, and increase when the numbers go back up after the olympic and holiday period. 
  • edited August 2012
    For those asking about why the GTD prizepool didn't go up, it did, although not directly in line with the buy-in increase. I imagine - as do those on the numbers side of our business - that the guarantee will increase in the future. For now it's a case of being gently as it goes, but they're certainly aiming to get five-figure prizepools guaranteed within a couple of months.

    We're are still offering satellites into the mains, and the tournaments affected are only the Tuesday and Wednesday main events.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: £33 mains:
    I'm ok with £33 too, but understand that the increase may deter a few.  Of course it is the rake that matters to Sky, and an increase from £2 per player to £3 per player.  Therefore if the numbers fall from 300 (300@£2 = £600) to 200 (200@£3 = £600) during the summer they maintain their turnover, and increase when the numbers go back up after the olympic and holiday period. 
    Posted by SoLack
    a good point solack but any business can see if your are obtaining say £600 no matter what from a main event then the way to go would be 300@£2=£600 (the cast your net wide option ) as a percentage of the EXTRA 100 players will stay on the site and play addional games generating EXTRA income.
    i belive in the main most people are recreational players and a 50% increase in a time when a lot of peoples disposable income is falling can not be good long term. i know i didnt load skypoker up untill 9pm last night as there was a better option (for me) elsewhere at 8pm.
  • edited August 2012
    Just my opinion and im a satelette or not playing guy, br and my logic. 

    How many live events will you play in any local casino for less than £33 ? 
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: £33 mains:
    Just my opinion and im a satelette or not playing guy, br and my logic.  How many live events will you play in any local casino for less than £33 ? 
    Posted by The_Don90
    you can play every night live in leeds for less than £33  why?
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: £33 mains:
    In Response to Re: £33 mains : you can play every night live in leeds for less than £33  why?
    Posted by rosjim1
    Almost all the ones below £33 at my local are rebuys. Even the ones around that have re-entry. 
  • edited August 2012
    I do think the community side of sky is great etc etc etc

    But i don't understand where this ethos of 'poker should be accessible to all'.. I mean that is just ludacris (i'm not sure if that's the correct spelling, but that's how the rapper spells it).

    Poker is cut throat, you play to take other peoples money and pay a cut to the platform that gives you the privelige.
     
    If you can't afford the main event, unlucky. You either have to find the money from life, or get better at poker.

    Sky offers plenty for al bankrolls and nobody has an entitlement to play in any poker tournaments. If sky persistently fails to offer a lower stakes player what they want then they can ultimately leave, but across the board sky looks after the small bankrolls. 

    There are alot more considerations for a site when looking at tourney schedules and as such not everyone can be happy all the time.  
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: £33 mains:
    I do think the community side of sky is great etc etc etc But i don't understand where this ethos of 'poker should be accessible to all'.. I mean that is just ludacris (i'm not sure if that's the correct spelling, but that's how the rapper spells it). Poker is cut throat, you play to take other peoples money and pay a cut to the platform that gives you the privelige.   If you can't afford the main event, unlucky. You either have to find the money from life, or get better at poker. Sky offers plenty for al bankrolls and nobody has an entitlement to play in any poker tournaments. If sky persistently fails to offer a lower stakes player what they want then they can ultimately leave, but across the board sky looks after the small bankrolls.  There are alot more considerations for a site when looking at tourney schedules and as such not everyone can be happy all the time.  
    Posted by pr1nnyraid
    +1 to this overall post btw

    Option C in highlighted bits is sats. You can qualify for Nottingham from £3.60 and Primo for £2.64. Im sure a sat to a £33 event will be even less. thats affordable even for me. 

    Poker is a cut throat world, Simply on another site the ME is $200, not sure what that converts to but its a lot more than what we have. 
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: £33 mains:
    Just my opinion and im a satelette or not playing guy, br and my logic.  How many live events will you play in any local casino for less than £33 ? 
    Posted by The_Don90
    It's well known that buy-ins tend to be large live though, most people aren't going to drive a to a casino to play a £2 BH where they might take it for £30.

    But it's like saying, 'when was the last time you played 2p/4p cash live?' so let's get rid of that too lol.
  • edited August 2012
    Im happy with it bein £33 entry eg if it pushes out the lower stakes then so be it thats what satelites are for

    Personally im glad there are less runners i wouldnt play if they wer 400 player fields unless its a BH where the field drops dramatically so quick!

    Thats why the mini was introduced for the lower stakes i only play this due to there bein a jackpot on offer

    Im happy with it bein £22 or £33 either way its okay
  • edited August 2012
    well ty u all for your points
    some i like some i dont but ty all
    But i still think that is is wrong that it goes up 50% and there is no added fund to the ppool.
    And on the point from sky dave that it is only tusday and wednesday is a bit odd because that monday and thruday and saturday is allready £33 any way so the only 2 that are not are sunday at £55 and friday being £11 rebuy.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: £33 mains:
    In Response to Re: £33 mains : you can play every night live in leeds for less than £33  why?
    Posted by rosjim1
    ^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^


  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: £33 mains:
    In Response to Re: £33 mains : It's well known that buy-ins tend to be large live though, most people aren't going to drive a to a casino to play a £2 BH where they might take it for £30. But it's like saying, 'when was the last time you played 2p/4p cash live?' so let's get rid of that too lol.
    Posted by Lambert180
    Yes but sky need to compete with the market of live players. I mean if i had a BR like some do, and my choice was an £11 tourny where i could win £1000 or i could go to a live, probably softer tourny have a social night and win the same for £33 i know what id choose. And sorry but it aint the £11 one. 

    Yes i admit i dont have a BR, but as i said i can sat in for little. I challenge you to look at the tournament lobby at 8am tomorrow morning look at the full day and look at how many tournaments are avalible above £11. Ill think youll find that us lower staked players are very well catered for. 
  • edited August 2012
    I play at a level where I will play Buy ins up to £20 on line. I am out Wednesdays so only play the main Event on Tuesdays & Fridays.

    I have enjoyed playing the Main Event on a Tuesday & enjoy playing on SKY, partly because you can feature on TV in a £20 event. I suspect that there will be less players now on Tuesdays & Wednesdays although there will be some that creep back over the months while other will move to other sites. I always thought that the varying buyins for the Main Events meant that more players could access them without tying themselves up for hours in satelites.

    If SKY are so confident that £30 on a Tuesday is such a good idea, why not put a £20 event & a £30 event on at the same time & see which provides the most revenue. Probably they will have done this. Business don't just raise prices by 50% without market testing it first.

    One thing I have noticed over the last months is a growing hostility to SKY Poker & some of their decisions. I am not sure why this is but it is something that I have not been aware of until recently. I am sure that SKY are aware of this too so I am surprised if they took this decision without making community members aware of it in advance (I totally missed it). It was only after I had entered last night that I realised that the price had gone up. I was trying to work out why there were so few players. Good job I cashed then.

    I think a spin off effect of the reduced numbers may be reduced viewers for the TV show particularly on a Tuesday night. There may be plenty of £20 tournaments & there may be plenty of £30 tournaments, I don't know. The only one I looked for was the 8.00 one because that was the only one I wanted to play.

    On the point about prices at casinos. Walsall have now stopped all their high buyins. Their highest tournament of the month is now £30 with most nights at £15 or £20. They are looking to get more players in at lower buyins. Time will tell which strategy is right.

    Although the majority of players seem to be upset with this move, experience has taught me that SKY don't get much wrong. People said that satelite TV would never take off. Look at it now.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: £33 mains:
    For those asking about why the GTD prizepool didn't go up, it did, although not directly in line with the buy-in increase. I imagine - as do those on the numbers side of our business - that the guarantee will increase in the future. For now it's a case of being gently as it goes, but they're certainly aiming to get five-figure prizepools guaranteed within a couple of months. We're are still offering satellites into the mains, and the tournaments affected are only the Tuesday and Wednesday main events.
    Posted by Sky_Dave
    EXCELENT NEWS! and as DOHHHHHH says everyone loves to jump on the lets kick out the lower stakes player bandwagon, theres still plenty of satelites, still plenty of chapea ways in. For heaven sake you can get into the SPT Grand final for £3! . 

    Sites getting bigger and growing therefore bigger tourneys bigger buy ins, bigger prize pools

    KIN MON THE BIG TOURNEYS

    no 30p dyms for me
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