Ok, so I'm seriously thinking of stopping playing high stake DYMs while this is happening and getting in the final playing low level games just to show if it is possible.
You guys choose the rules.
Give me the highest level you think reg SnG players are being excluded at by this promotion, don't just say 60p unless you honestly think that. From these discussions I think the line is somewhere between £11-£22
Going to re open the grind in an hour. When I get a chance I'll post all the games I've played and people can make adjustments as they wish, hopefully we will get a points total at the end and we'll see if I could have done it without the 55ers and 82.5ers I've played today.
I've just signed up for every DYM £5.50 and less. I think we can agree these are below the line, let me know how far I can go up. Posted by TommyD
Tommy, I think you should play every game below £11 this week so I can avoid playing you and hopefully make a nice profit without us beating each other up
It still doesnt get away from the fact that sit and go "champ" is hardly the right name for this comp, the whole promotion tickles me tbh "Are you a sit and go champ???".....no, I'm someone who plays more stts than anyone else win OR lose (I know that the likes of tommyd and pat do actually crush the dyms.....just saying)
In Response to Re: sit and go champ : I'm willing to lay a prop that this can't be done at £5.50 or less. And willing to just bet, and not put any money down that it still can't be done at the £11s. Posted by patwalshh
Not prop betting (that's gotten threads in trouble before). It's for the prestige and to prove a point, whoever's point is proven, don't mind which.
Tommy you don't have to grind the lower levels to prove anything I can tell you now that if you 10 table £3&£5 dym's you will average 80 points an hour a higher stakes player will get that from just 1 £50 & 1 £30 sum which will last 45 mins tops.
Also to my knowledge there are only 3 players that play 10 or more low level dym's at a time as playing more than 6 is out of most players capability.
In Response to Re: sit and go champ : I'm willing to lay a prop that this can't be done at £5.50 or less. And willing to just bet, and not put any money down that it still can't be done at the £11s. EDIT: I'd actually bet it can't be done at the £11s Posted by patwalshh
Cool Pat, I'll set the line at £11 and under for now. Open for anyone else to give their opinion.
Tommy you don't have to grind the lower levels to prove anything I can tell you now that if you 10 table £3&£5 dym's you will average 80 points an hour a higher stakes player will get that from just 1 £50 & 1 £30 sum which will last 45 mins tops. Also to my knowledge there are only 3 players that play 10 or more low level dym's at a time as playing more than 6 is out of most players capability. Posted by kevcoke69
I'm curious to see if it can be done, that's all. Also always nice to have a challenge
Best of Luck with this Tommy. If nothing else, I admire the attempt.
I'd say you don't wanna set the bar too low because we all know it's unfair to expect you to do it in tiny ones like £2s. I'd say the £11s and anything under that are definitely fair game.
I did a few quick calcs earlier in this thread and I reckon it can be done if you're a sick grinder.
Tommy your on a hiding to nothing here mate I just checked the lobby and there were 3 £50 games runner and 3 players were in all of them that's 150 points which means you got to 15 table £10 dym's to keep up which is not going to happen as 10 is the most you normally get at the peak
Best of Luck with this Tommy. If nothing else, I admire the attempt. I'd say you don't wanna set the bar too low because we all know it's unfair to expect you to do it in tiny ones like £2s. I'd say the £11s and anything under that are definitely fair game. I did a few quick calcs earlier in this thread and I reckon it can be done if you're a sick grinder. Posted by Lambert180
You literally have to turn your brain off for 6 days, and press buttons. Grind out the mental trauma and vitamin D deficiency............. But it's a possibility. You'd have to play 12 hours a day+ though.. I'd bet against anyone trying to do it (apart from 1 or 2 individuals).
In Response to Re: sit and go champ : I'm curious to see if it can be done, that's all. Also always nice to have a challenge Posted by TommyD
I'm all for a challenge as well mate and good luck with this but just be warned mate that some of the sites names are playing the high stakes games and having a crack at this your really up against it
In Response to Re: sit and go champ : I'm all for a challenge as well mate and good luck with this but just be warned mate that some of the sites names are playing the high stakes games and having a crack at this your really up against it Posted by kevcoke69
Cheers mate.
I'm well aware of the odds and volume required. Also know about the big names playing high stakes. Hopefully some league is put up tomorrow for the progress so far, would really help me.
What doesn't help is going deep in the £100 bher (thin) and Andy Murray going two sets up (I'm a big tennis fan, really hope he does this, gotta watch).
The trouble with any promo etc is you will never appeal or make everyone happy. I know what everyone is saying but if this would have been done on a format as suggested ie 2 from each section I think you would have seen a very angry forum here why, because how would the £5 DYM players have felt when for example Tommyd turned up at your table because he knew that way he would be gtn a final freeroll place due to his edge? Also I know a lot of criticism that it benfits the higher level players but isnt their rake that will be the majorty of the money used to finance this? I am just trying to make people look at all sides and how hard it is to come up with a format that works and gets the higher level players to play enough to make this financial work and therefore can lead to more promos in the future, which is what players did ask for which is something for the STG players not just for cash play. Posted by MRBURNS4
I think you missing the point.Why should 80-90%(i think that is being generous i can only think of a few dozen players that will be vying for the top 6) of players be grateful for a prize draw?What we have been asking for is something to increase traffic at all levels permanently and not just for 1 week. If there are future promo's if they are based around this philosophy whats the point for the majority of players.
I think it is a great promotion, and agree with whoever said "you will never be able to please everyone". I am a low stakes DYM player, and although I don't think I am in with much of a chance this is mainly down to work commitments and not the stakes I play at. If you were a serious DYM player with a + ROI it would be the perfect opportunity to learn how to multi table 10+ tables, whilst potentially earning around 60 points an hour. If nothing else you would make a heap of Poker Points and get a nice cash bonus at the end of the month.
The league points would be better from the point of tracking progress against others, however it would still be the grinders and ultimately the people with the highest C4P at the top of the league.
Although a knock out tournament is a nice idea, it doesn't make good business sense as the volume of play generated by the promotion would be minimal. Also if you were knocked out in the first round the promotion would be over for you.
I will be interested to see if Tommy D can make it to the final, I would say the challenge could be done grinding the low stake games so £5.50 and under.
The trouble with any promo etc is you will never appeal or make everyone happy. I know what everyone is saying but if this would have been done on a format as suggested ie 2 from each section I think you would have seen a very angry forum here why, because how would the £5 DYM players have felt when for example Tommyd turned up at your table because he knew that way he would be gtn a final freeroll place due to his edge? Also I know a lot of criticism that it benfits the higher level players but isnt their rake that will be the majorty of the money used to finance this? I am just trying to make people look at all sides and how hard it is to come up with a format that works and gets the higher level players to play enough to make this financial work and therefore can lead to more promos in the future, which is what players did ask for which is something for the STG players not just for cash play. Posted by MRBURNS4
Hi MrB Fair point made fella. SKY POKER is a business after all and i'm not having a go at the likes of TommyD and hope he doesn't see it like that. (i wouldn't pick on a fellow maths teacher!!).I'm pleased to have a positive ROI from DYM's but there's no way i could get to the point levels needed. GL to all who try. GL to you Tommy. I don't really wish to multi table as i enjoy my poker for what it is...recreational fun. DTD is enough multi for me to be honest and occasiional staggered DYM's. I just thought that SKY could try another promo which gave a bit to low stakes/low volume players. I won't be throwing my dummy out of the pram 'cos of this guys. Just thought win rate should decides CHAMP not volume. 'No big deal as Anthony Holden wrote once and got me involved with poker...good book if you get chance guys!! GL at the tables...
In Response to Re: sit and go champ : Hi MrB Fair point made fella. SKY POKER is a business after all and i'm not having a go at the likes of TommyD and hope he doesn't see it like that.(i wouldn't pick on a fellow maths teacher!!).I'm pleased to have a positive ROI from DYM's but there's no way i could get to the point levels needed. GL to all who try. GL to you Tommy. I don't really wish to multi table as i enjoy my poker for what it is...recreational fun. DTD is enough multi for me to be honest and occasiional staggered DYM's. I just thought that SKY could try another promo which gave a bit to low stakes/low volume players. I won't be throwing my dummy out of the pram 'cos of this guys. Just thought win rate should decides CHAMP not volume. 'No big deal as Anthony Holden wrote once and got me involved with poker...good book if you get chance guys!! GL at the tables... Posted by profman15
Of course I don't think anyone is having a pop at me. I too hope I haven't offended anyone, not my intention. We were all talking about 'is it possible?' so I thought I'd go the 'put up or shut up' route.
So basically low stake players would have to play an absolute sick amount of volume to have anychance, while the high stakes players do not :S
An intresting delima, think you should be applauded for giving it a shot, but I am sure the DYM regs at them levels are not happy to see you there or maybe not !
Promotions like these just make me happy that I am not a sick grinder as I have to work 10-12 hours a day- you know a proper job unless I am posting here obviously )
Not sure how I missed the advertisements for this promotion, I only became aware of it last night when I stumbled across this thread.
If it was highlighted as one of the main promotions on the main page, my bad for not taking more notice.
If it was promoted on the show's last week it must have been when my wife had the remote.
If it was promoted at SPT at the weekend, it must have been when I was in a daze at some of the play I was witnessing.
If I understand correctly this is in essence a promotion to entice and reward high volume play in Sit and Go's between September 10th and September 16th, if this is the case and SkyPoker thought I might be tempted, why would SkyPoker wait until the promotion has started to send me an email promotion with the details?
Not the first time this has happened, I don't know why emails like this still go out after the event has started?
In Response to Re: sit and go champ : Sorry Tommy, still half asleep after the Tennis. ;o) Brilliant mate. I shall follow your progress with interest. GL with it. Posted by JockBMW
Cheers bud.
Yeah the tennis took it out of me as well. Great scenes.
This is the first Sit & Go promotion we've done for a while and there will be more to follow. As many of you have pointed out, it's hard to please everyone but we are trying this (giving away £4,000) with one clear and simple mechanism and will certainly learn from it.
Please remember that the money is split for the top six players who play off for £2,000 in a game on a Sky Poker TV show (to determine the 'Champ' part of this). The other £2,000 is available to everyone else taking part via a prize draw.
Please remember to enter the promo code CHAMP in 'may account.
It will be interesting to see how this goes, the final will be exciting.
Comments
You guys choose the rules.
Give me the highest level you think reg SnG players are being excluded at by this promotion, don't just say 60p unless you honestly think that. From these discussions I think the line is somewhere between £11-£22
Going to re open the grind in an hour. When I get a chance I'll post all the games I've played and people can make adjustments as they wish, hopefully we will get a points total at the end and we'll see if I could have done it without the 55ers and 82.5ers I've played today.
Post quickly, times awasting.
I've just signed up for every DYM £5.50 and less. I think we can agree these are below the line, let me know how far I can go up.
It still doesnt get away from the fact that sit and go "champ" is hardly the right name for this comp, the whole promotion tickles me tbh "Are you a sit and go champ???".....no, I'm someone who plays more stts than anyone else win OR lose (I know that the likes of tommyd and pat do actually crush the dyms.....just saying)
Still it is very generous of sky and gl to all
So Pat are you saying 5.5 or 11?
I'd say you don't wanna set the bar too low because we all know it's unfair to expect you to do it in tiny ones like £2s. I'd say the £11s and anything under that are definitely fair game.
I did a few quick calcs earlier in this thread and I reckon it can be done if you're a sick grinder.
I'm well aware of the odds and volume required. Also know about the big names playing high stakes. Hopefully some league is put up tomorrow for the progress so far, would really help me.
What doesn't help is going deep in the £100 bher (thin) and Andy Murray going two sets up (I'm a big tennis fan, really hope he does this, gotta watch).
If there are future promo's if they are based around this philosophy whats the point for the majority of players.
The league points would be better from the point of tracking progress against others, however it would still be the grinders and ultimately the people with the highest C4P at the top of the league.
Although a knock out tournament is a nice idea, it doesn't make good business sense as the volume of play generated by the promotion would be minimal. Also if you were knocked out in the first round the promotion would be over for you.
I will be interested to see if Tommy D can make it to the final, I would say the challenge could be done grinding the low stake games so £5.50 and under.
Fair point made fella. SKY POKER is a business after all and i'm not having a go at the likes of TommyD and hope he doesn't see it like that. (i wouldn't pick on a fellow maths teacher!!).I'm pleased to have a positive ROI from DYM's but there's no way i could get to the point levels needed. GL to all who try. GL to you Tommy. I don't really wish to multi table as i enjoy my poker for what it is...recreational fun. DTD is enough multi for me to be honest and occasiional staggered DYM's.
I just thought that SKY could try another promo which gave a bit to low stakes/low volume players. I won't be throwing my dummy out of the pram 'cos of this guys. Just thought win rate should decides CHAMP not volume. 'No big deal as Anthony Holden wrote once and got me involved with poker...good book if you get chance guys!!
GL at the tables...
This week is gonna hurt just a little.
littlelou
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Last: 10/9/2012
i think sit and go champ should be the person with the biggest win rate not the biggest bankroll.
So basically low stake players would have to play an absolute sick amount of volume to have anychance, while the high stakes players do not :S
An intresting delima, think you should be applauded for giving it a shot, but I am sure the DYM regs at them levels are not happy to see you there or maybe not !
Promotions like these just make me happy that I am not a sick grinder as I have to work 10-12 hours a day- you know a proper job unless I am posting here obviously )
If it was highlighted as one of the main promotions on the main page, my bad for not taking more notice.
If it was promoted on the show's last week it must have been when my wife had the remote.
If it was promoted at SPT at the weekend, it must have been when I was in a daze at some of the play I was witnessing.
If I understand correctly this is in essence a promotion to entice and reward high volume play in Sit and Go's between September 10th and September 16th, if this is the case and SkyPoker thought I might be tempted, why would SkyPoker wait until the promotion has started to send me an email promotion with the details?
Not the first time this has happened, I don't know why emails like this still go out after the event has started?
Yeah the tennis took it out of me as well. Great scenes.
Hi everyone
Thanks for the feedback.
This is the first Sit & Go promotion we've done for a while and there will be more to follow. As many of you have pointed out, it's hard to please everyone but we are trying this (giving away £4,000) with one clear and simple mechanism and will certainly learn from it.
Please remember that the money is split for the top six players who play off for £2,000 in a game on a Sky Poker TV show (to determine the 'Champ' part of this). The other £2,000 is available to everyone else taking part via a prize draw.
Please remember to enter the promo code CHAMP in 'may account.
It will be interesting to see how this goes, the final will be exciting.
Very best of luck to those taking part!
Thanks
Sky Poker