Velocity tourney what do we do here?

IDONKCALLU

no reads IDONKCALLUSmall blind 50.0050.005865.00diggerboyBig blind 100.00150.005300.00 Your hole cardsAJ   fozzaFold    smiffy88Raise 200.00350.005315.00IDONKCALLURaise 500.00850.005365.00diggerboyFold    smiffy88Call 350.001200.004965.00Flop  5A5   IDONKCALLUBet 600.001800.004765.00smiffy88All-in 4965.006765.000.00

percival09

I like pre and flop

You can't fold in a 3b pot here. Easy call

unknown_username

why is his pf call of your rr 350 not 300?

How long u been on table and whats your image from his pov? Have you been busy nicking pots?

Lambert180

@ Luv - because Donk has already put the 50 in for the SB, so when it says he raises 500, he raises 500 on top of his 50 so he raises to 550, so villian has to put another 350 in with his 200 to make it up.

It's a pretty easy call for me.

IDONKCALLU

played only 10 mins from what i see he plays alot of hands raises alot pre but not seen any hands in showdown so dnt know the holdings 

IDONKCALLU

thanks for ya feedback i thought alot of u would say fold so the call is the correct play i did call opponent had a q sigh

grantorino

Don't 3b pre without reads on his 3b calling range

I go broke on flop if I 3b pre, but this is why I don't 3b AJ just cos I see someone open a lot

percival09

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Don't 3b pre without reads on his 3b calling range I go broke on flop if I 3b pre, but this is why I don't 3b AJ just cos I see someone open a lot
Posted by grantorino

I have to disagree - although I think what you say is generally an accepted concept in poker, 4-handed I'm 3betting AJ vs a btn open almost 100% readless or not

grantorino

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In Response to Re: Velocity tourney what do we do here? : I have to disagree - although I think what you say is generally an accepted concept in poker, 4-handed I'm 3betting AJ vs a btn open almost 100% readless or not
Posted by percival09

Thats cool, but why?

percival09

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In Response to Re: Velocity tourney what do we do here? : Thats cool, but why?
Posted by grantorino

Because we can expect Sky players to call with worse 96% of the time and 4b 4% to which we can lay down. lololol.

waller02

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Don't 3b pre without reads on his 3b calling range I go broke on flop if I 3b pre, but this is why I don't 3b AJ just cos I see someone open a lot
Posted by grantorino

is there not a case to play more aggro due to the fast structure of the mtt???

IDONKCALLU

think 3 bet is the right play 

A) I win the hand if he just folds 

if he calls and most flops if we both miss i win as in position 

C) just unlucky on this flop that we both hit lol 90 per cent of time i win if u look at A n B  

grantorino

A) you don't want him to fold worse

you are oop

C) lol at spouting random numbers

Also by your logic you should 3b 100% of your range

Lambert180

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A) you don't want him to fold worse you are oop C) lol at spouting random numbers Also by your logic you should 3b 100% of your range
Posted by grantorino

Lol GT

+1

IDONKCALLU

lambert agreeing with grantorino lol 

he dnt even play poker on this site and most prob dnt even play at all so what does he know about mtt poker when it comes to small mtts think i have an edge against most players facts spk for themselfs 

percival09

LOL @ idcu making it personal. 

DOHHHHHHH

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lambert agreeing with grantorino lol  he dnt even play poker on this site and most prob dnt even play at all so what does he know about mtt poker when it comes to small mtts think i have an edge against most players facts spk for themselfs 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

What facts Stevie C ???

percival09

If you want to take a poll on whose analysis clinic posters prefer out of you two we can do it if you like? Only joking but gt posts great advice each hand - usually people take it on and try to improve - others, do not. 

Lambert180

I was lol'ing mostly at the fact one of your arguements was that you have position... when you don't lol.

But yeah I think GT is probably the number 1 poster on the clinic for best advice and one of the few who gives his advice on virtually every single thread in the clinic. It's laughable that you'd question someone's ability because they don't play on a particular site.

percival09

Fine. Who cares? GT who is probs the most knowledgable regular clinic poster on this site has just posted advice - my god he didn't ask u for your small mtt results. Congratulations. He might ask u for coaching. 

Lambert180

You do have a good record in tthe small MTTs here Donk, but none of us are perfect, and what's the point in posting a hand if you don't take the advice.

GT's points where that, you're surely 3betting to get called by worse so you don't want him to fold. If you're not 3betting to get called by worse and you're doing it as a bluff, then you might aswell do it with 72o.

percival09

I mean how defensive do you actually have to get? Read through the comments again and how you reacted is unbelievably ridiculous and immature

DOHHHHHHH

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i can take criticism i listen to what dohh tells me all the time  whenever i post gran torino never agrees what i have to say
Posted by IDONKCALLU

This explains alot  

Lambert180

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In Response to Re: Velocity tourney what do we do here? : This explains alot  
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Lol I was gonna make a joke about listening to you being a bad thing too, but thought better of it

murray69

im just mad for the banter

grantorino

Idcu

Feel free to take or leave my advice. 3betting pre isn't terrible here, I prob wouldn't and gave reasons for same, but w/e. there is a serious possibility of winning small pot or losing a big one. Percival gave decent reasons as to why you might 3bet. I disagreed with yours, I disagree with some of what you post as it doesn't make sense to me. You can decide what to do when I post

If you post hands here and just want People to post omg lol u is the bestest ever what's the point

NColley

lol @ IDCU, wheres your ego come from?

Your not half as good as you think you are, grantorino doesn't play alot on here but his advice is usually pretty solid and you could learn alot if you actually took on board some of it sometimes.

Why do you even bother posting hands up if you never take the comments on board, do you literally just do it for the times someone tells you that you played well? lols

IDONKCALLU

took all on board n colley u talk some sense there i like the honesty and being blunt like what ya say speak ya mind no holding back i listen to what ya have to say taken it all in pal good luck at the tables 

unknown_username

Hi guys

Read this this lot through and i think the Cold War had less rhetoric. GT, imo, is a good analyst of hands and i take note when he and others contribute. I don't agree sometimes but i state my case so that i can get a reply which will further my understanding. Treat it as a melting pot of ideas. Take the advice with good grace. Yes, state your case but be grateful for their attention otherwise people won't post mate.

What happened to the Plan to change attitude a bit...(BBV, REMEMBER?)
By the way, those one liners Dohhhhh....brilliant! They make me laugh out loud. Pay your scriptwriter more fella.

PS Cya today in The Boogie Woogie League, eh?
PPs Don't think i'll comment on the hand....because i don't know the best way to play it....

unknown_username

love the way u played it have to get it in in three bet pot and if he has aq or ak then so be it. but it is hard for him to have ak or aa coz you would think he would have 4 bet u.

IDONKCALLU

ta rob  yeah i be there profman gl at the tables