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was their any mistakes in this
1. I 1ike the raise pre.
2. I probab1y just ca11 the f1op bet. Your raise wont get anyone to fo1d and I dont want to inf1ate the pot with a semi decent hand.
3. Fine to bet when checke to, a1though your sizing needs some work. I dont rea11y 1ike sticking to ru1es when we p1ay poker, but try to keep your bets above 1/2 pot.
4. I wou1d probab1y check the river with showdown va1ue. At this 1eve1 you cannot get a better hand than QJ to fo1d here.
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this hand here is one i am a bit unsure about.
as for the flop onwards was i correct with all my play from their and basically just a case of being trapped or could a pot size river bet have got the guy with AQ to have folded
what he said ^
i think some of you are mis understanding what i mean saying first to bet
basically what i mean by first to bet is those who were before me folded i don't know every fance poker name yet i just know the position names- under the gun SB BB and on the button
basically on this preflop i was in a late position only the button and blinds were left.
i will change edit it
At a Six-Max table, moving clockwise starting from the Small Blind the positions are:
Small Blind,
Big Blind,
Under The Gun,
The Hijack (Or UTG+1),
The Cut-Off,
The Button.
These don't change in relation to players folding or raising, etc.
Never limp (call for the value of the Big Blind) in an unopened pot. In fact, just never limp at all.
Flop is fine to raise cos the min bet might aswell be a check (until you get nots they do this with monsters etc).
On the turn you should bet a lot more, something like 85p.
Checking river is fine.
And yes you are the Cut-Off (the person before the button), think Larry is confused
on these 2p/4p tables i have came up with a new way to play. this was TBH my first year and was making a lot of mistakes, but now that i am posting my hands into this forum i've learned quite a lot and have come up with a few things i think could help me build a decent bankroll
1. be more sensible with my hands and position combined before making any call
2.start making bets of atleast 16p with hands preflop.
3. stop calling these 4p bets on the flop and turn instead either raise to a 20p+ size bet or fold
4. accept low profits such as £2 and rather than waiting until i get double figures all the time.
Beating Small Stakes Cash Games - Part 1
Pre-flop I like your raise size. From the cut-off and button in an unopened pot 3x is fine even at NL4 unless you have a monster hand and reads that players in the blinds will call big bets very wide. It is definatly +ev to steal blinds from the CO and BTN at NL4 if you pay attention to who is in the blinds so you can really open up your range from these possitions. As a result you should make your raises in these spots smaller because a) you are more likely to get played back at and b) you will be raising with junk a lot of the time. Just don't get sucked into betting multiple streets with suited connectors when you flop a pair and you'll do fine.
Another good stratergy on these tables is to bet when you have top pair until you get raised, then fold. Sometimes you may bet called by a player who has you out kickered (like in this hand) and sometimes a player will raise you on the turn as a bluff and you fold the best hand. But more often than not players at NL4 will call with any pair/any draw. Since I've started doing this I've been amazed at how often I've played a rag ace from the button and been called on three streets by 2nd pair.
Some players will say always raise to /> 20p, which is fine too. But I think that you only need to do this from early possition and/or with monster hands vs players who you know will call anyway.
what allowed you to make that call which is something i have most of the time folded to.
And QJo is in the top 30% which was my point. It's also in the top 15%
Those top % thingy of hands always seems kinda irrelevant to me. There are situations I would feel more comfortable opening 46s in than QJo. I assume stuff like Q3 is ranked as a beter hand than 78s, (maybe not?) I know which I would rather play unless we get it all over the line pre
,( most of the guys posting here are playing bigger stakes £2 + tables, and have the experience,money and confidence to blow a few hundred quid + on 1 hand making these calls and the raise or fold style of play comes with experience)....and the post did say unless you are on a good run, when obviously the % hands played would be higher..also there is not much info on other players or the guys style of play..so my point was... raising with QJ in what looks to me like UTG is what put him on a cooler.. (if you look at the table its SB BB and the raiser with QJ) then folded round to the SB and BB who called..or am I reading the table wrong?
The main point I was making was...if his play was loose,,then he would be target for the way the AQ played out against him with the flat calls and checks...and what everyone on here has told him is.."YES SON YOU'RE RIGHT..GET YOUR CHIPS IN THERE..."...sorry but I think when you are learning, you need to think about what hands are beating you pre-flop,your position on the table,the way your opponents play (he had a fish and a player waiting to pounce in that hand), what bets have gone before and bet accordingly...I dont see how thats wrong????..thats why I put the post I did..he's got to be able to way up all options...personally I have learnt that raising early with jq o/s has leeched me more chips than its made..but we are all entitled to an opinion on how certain cards should be played in what positions... at the end of the day it's all about who you are playing against,how aggressive you want to be at the table and the fall of the cards...