I think we should just bet flop. People don't tend to 3x UTG out of a 20xBB stack at this stage of a ME without a pretty strong range. I think we need to assume JJ+ all bet the flop, so they're most likely holdings are things like AK/AQ which they'll either give up to 1 or two barrels especially as the flop hits us a lot better than it does them, so I think we should bet the flop.
As played it does look like a bluff although a lot of people still won't like calling with A high. Imo if we're gonna bluff this river, his range is capped to vv weak hands so we should just go really big on the river, maybe a shove, and we'll get folds almost 100% of the time
Agree with Lambo - assuming neither of you hit the flop, you are more likely to have hit than opponent - unless they have the overpair you should be able to push them off.
I think betting the flop is a good option - betting the turn after 2 checks and tons more equity with the flush draw is an absolute must.
You seem to already approeciate that was a mistake - not sure why you would call in position with a weaker range than an UTG raise if you are not prepared to try and take down the pot when opponent shows weakness.
River is too late and line too suspect to expect to get away with enough times to be profitable.
At these stages when you get a strong UTG raise (or a strong 3x in general) it usually is strong hand in the AQ/AK/JJ/QQ range. So calling isn't great. As played when the river pairs we cant really rep anything other than say 88 going for thin value. We just look so bluffy. But when he checks the wet board we have to think he has two high cards more often on a strong trappy one as no-one likes risking being outdrawn or losing out if the board runs out bad so this is a great spot to bet a reasonable amount on the flop knowing that you are going to follow through on any turn card.
i might have got a bit too obcessed with all in satsd today, overall i decided to enter myself into 11 of them and that was on top of two sats for the semi, overall it got me a bit confused with my final cash table totals because i was having a great time tonight, some tables had got my stack size two the buy ins worth yet my cash still came to a final total of -0.04.
I may have got a loss but overall, i'm thinking that ive got an idea of where i might be making all these losses, this afternoon i suffered lots of losses but this evening these same hands were now getting me winnings.
all in all i lost a total of £53.79
cash -4p but the last minute cooler was what give it that
SnG -£6.85
MTT -£46.90
I did for a a fair amount of time have a loss of about £43 looking to happen on 888 poker but then came some good coolers allowing me to finish on that site with £8.21
this year i am wanting to go to that DTD in newcastle, the trouble is i've never been to a live poker MTT, therefore i don't know how it work, so i would like to ask-
being a live event i would be expecting the MTT to be played through the weekend as a whole and as i live in spennymoor i could just get a bus back to my own house if i knew it finished at a certain time, so could someone tell me, do these live MTTs stop at around 11pm or will they continue on to a later time and leaving me to probably get a taxi (as taxis will cost about the same price as a hotel
this year i am wanting to go to that DTD in newcastle, the trouble is i've never been to a live poker MTT, therefore i don't know how it work, so i would like to ask- being a live event i would be expecting the MTT to be played through the weekend as a whole and as i live in spennymoor i could just get a bus back to my own house if i knew it finished at a certain time, so could someone tell me, do these live MTTs stop at around 11pm or will they continue on to a later time and leaving me to probably get a taxi (as taxis will cost about the same price as a hotel Posted by craigcu12
i was thinking tonight might have been a good looking night, first i got myself entry into the main event, then i gained a cash value of £33 due to a second entry into the main event, now i'm going to stop playing for the night before things get out of hand, DTD QQ, 4bet pre board Jxx(ccc), i goes Ch/RR T comes Kd i jam but event had i bet he would have shoved KJ leaving me to call now that so much was in. So i'm out DTD2 and think well i'll keep out of DTD 3 and put attention onto the main but what happens, i'm in the BB, button L/RR i've got KK so 4bet and he jams, like i thought it was AA he held and i now exit the main. Having had not one but two premiums loosing me the MTT i've beome a big frustrated with myself and started tossing my remaining chips away from DTD1.
In the end i've still finished with more than i start with because i got £66 worth of cash from sats therefore i'm going to quit whilst ahead and leave the game for tonight.
In Response to Re: craigcu12 diary----one off or just the beginning : Craig no matter how tilted you are you should not openly chip dump and advertise the fact in chat, asking players to call and you would fold Posted by Boxster
being on tilt, i got too frustrated with myself, as you said i shouldn't ruin an MTT for the rest, i came up with the first thing that come to my mind R/F.
I'll try and remember to just sit out next time.
as for the hand itself, maybe i caused the exit myself.
Q. knowing that he has R/F in the late stages of an MTT holding just 10BB, i don't expect him to be LAG. As they say, an MTT can't be won but it can certainly be lost in the early stages and nowing this L/RR has got high potential to be an AA, far more chance of that than QQ, should i therefore just fold my KK pre and wait for better times?
having played some plo and pl08, i've managed to put the bad hands to bed. the great thing about PLO and PL08 is even the 2nd nuts can so easily be beaten
What seemed to have been a bad day was saved in the last two hours when i decided to play a total of 13 tables at once!
Most of the day I had been playing 6 cash tables, My first session was looking likely to be an awful start with me constantly winning small pots and loosing big ones, the trouble was loose passive were calling with all sorts preflop, played monsters deceptive and were frequently calling flops then folding turns. When the site itself went down, i could still play cash tables as long as i was already on them and as recs were unlikely to reload, the tables themselves began consisting mainly of regs, i could now have an easier job hand reading, therefore it was easier to bluff, fold or call and during that period of time my awful game turned into a great one although i still did finish of with a loss of about £55.
My two evening sessions were once again looking very bad ones indeed, again i seemed to be playing like a feeding station and not getting myself decent value with the good hands, at 11pm i tried one final route, I decided to play 13 tables together and incredibly this worked an absolute treat, I was no longer becoming bored as i would be likely to have a hand to play nearly every minute, I also found the losses much easier to accept because it was most likely to have been a loss that was made up on the rest of the tables, in the end nl20 usually has more recs than it has regs per table and if i'm so concerned about my BR dropping then i shouldn't be playing as loose against recs.
There will be no busses running when play stops at Aspers Craig and a taxi to Spenny will be extortionate £40 minimum. Get a hotel or find someone who will come out and give you a lift home.
cash form may have dropped but MTT form seems to be getting better and better, on monday i managed to get into the main event and also won another £33 which i used for an entry into tonights main event. Now i didn't do much in monday's main event as i had a very early cooler. Tonight but i managed to make it all the way past the bubble finishing 36th overall.
In the early stages i did get myself down to 1060 chips, I remained patient and about 10 hands later doubled my stack having hit a set on the flop.
Having started to read the chris moorman book and following on from how that KJs played out, i've started to analyse the board more carefully and though more carefully about my plan of action on the next street.
You beat barely anything when he jams. It's never a worse Ace. If by some miracle you have the best hand, you're probably gonna be up against a combo draw like 89cc, which still has decent equity vs our hand.
I also don't think its necessarily an auto 3bet from the button, calling seems good with position.
That hand cost you a 1/3 of your stack, when it really should have just been a flesh wound (as Tikay would say).
You beat barely anything when he jams. It's never a worse Ace. If by some miracle you have the best hand, you're probably gonna be up against a combo draw like 89cc, which still has decent equity vs our hand. I also don't think its necessarily an auto 3bet from the button, calling seems good with position. That hand cost you a 1/3 of your stack, when it really should have just been a flesh wound (as Tikay would say). Posted by hhyftrftdr
As Craig said, would a strong ace normally bet a smaller amount in order to get a call from worse?
From the oppos pov if he shoves AQ then he's normally only getting called by better?
In Response to Re: craigcu12 diary----one off or just the beginning : As Craig said, would a strong ace normally bet a smaller amount in order to get a call from worse? From the oppos pov if he shoves AQ then he's normally only getting called by better? Posted by shakinaces
Gotta factor in we lose to A7, A6 and A2, along with AK/Q/J....and obvs chopping with A10. Hero them if you think A8/A9 3x's pre flop and bets pot/overbet jams turn....I'm far from convinced.
From villains perspective, we have to be reasonably confident with our hand. You could argue him shoving only gets called by better, or a monster combo draw maybe. It looks a little like a panic shove where he doesn't want to have to bet/call off the turn and is thus taking any decisions away himself by shoving.
If you wanna get into a levelling war, if villain thinks that hero thinks I wouldn't shove AQ, then its a great shove....
In Response to Re: craigcu12 diary----one off or just the beginning : Gotta factor in we lose to A7, A6 and A2, along with AK/Q/J....and obvs chopping with A10. Hero them if you think A8/A9 3x's pre flop and bets pot/overbet jams turn....I'm far from convinced. From villains perspective, we have to be reasonably confident with our hand. You could argue him shoving only gets called by better, or a monster combo draw maybe. It looks a little like a panic shove where he doesn't want to have to bet/call off the turn and is thus taking any decisions away himself by shoving. If you wanna get into a levelling war, if villain thinks that hero thinks I wouldn't shove AQ, then its a great shove.... Posted by hhyftrftdr
Gven craigs diary is full of reference to such thinking, this would seem a very likely scenario.....
now this might sound stupid but knowing how high stress levels can get through bordom, the last thing i want to be doing is playing poker after having a boring day. So my target for 2015 is to start getting myself more active with things during the day such as bike rides and cleaning the house. That way come the evening i'll be feeling alot more relaxing and instead of playing poker as a way to get myself out of bordom, i shall be playing poker more like a relaxing and fun manner.
my second target for this year is set myself a study day.
my plan for the next month is playing nl10p where the chip stacks are much more shallow, then i should be able to get myself back to winning again and shall move back towards my low stakes cash tables.
something tells me that in recent weeks, I should not have been playing poker at all. spending my whole day in the house i've became bored with myself and by the time i start playing in the evening, i'm already so bored, i've ended up playing too loose. most days i was getting on average a simpular amount of large losses as i was getting large wins.
what i found different today, I was happy, relaxed and had some time outside, I also now have started noting things that i see mentioned on deuces cracked s i've paid a fee to start watching the videos on that training site.
Today i got 5 losses over £5 and managed 6 wins over £5, my total outcome for the day was a loss of -£3.65.
cash was £1.38 MTT-£5.03
i had played som 888poker too and that one had today got me a win of $5.07
Now that I'm starting to go out more, I’ve been feeling more calm and relaxed during my poker session.
Today I had managed to make my way into the main event via a semi but didn’t last very long in the main event itself; I had lost one great chance to treble my stack in a way which can be debateable to some. Blinds were 30/60; my stack was 1820 and was in the SB holding A3s.The problem was UTG+1 had raised by 3BB, making it more risking of me making the call. 2BB or IP I might have called but I think 3BB was one too many for me to call OOP when it’s only really a flush draw I'm wanting. Unfortunately the flop came 833 and the BB, and UTG+1 both jammed their whole stacks.
MTTs were not any good but the cash games was a different story altogether. Normally I see these tables playing a very weak passive game. Today was anything but weak passive, one player got unlucky on a river, having 3bet pre and he cbets both the flop and turn, now I was in a very hard spot thinking surely my AQ is beaten, the river can happen to change the story altogether having come Q, the attempted river jam made by 34s was no good. Another player that got unlucky was someone with 33, he choose to Ch/R his pair on the flop 554ss, holding 1010 I make the call, unfortunately for him the turn give me a 10 and I decide to make the raise, he then went all in maybe thinking I hold the straight flush or nut flush draws.
I did receive 3heavy losses having gone all in with a nut flush draw 4 to the flush K high draw and over pair on the river Q8892 dd hh c, so to have still won £79.93 overall, I think it's a sign that I’ve been playing poker at the wrong times
what the hell i was thinking, i don't know 9K stack, just moved tables and i decide to play my hand like a maniac, i had been thinking carefully for most the MTT but then one minute of stupidness and i've exited it.
not much else to report really and knowing i've just did the stupidest of actions i'm going to call it a day.
again, i started with a great stack and i think it was likely that bordom kicked in and i end up attempting to steal chips from limps. The trouble is i'm not tomyD or mattbates so they will not be so worried about loosing chips and i've ended up feeding them my great stack.
all in all i've lost another £16.94 and who'd have thought i would come out and say, "i wish i never did so good in highroller!"
the truth is i've still not managed to get anywhere near booking this holiday, that money i won is still sitting inside my bank account all because of the fact i'll need the carer with me.
What i'm going to do now is give this social worker one last chance and if he doesn't respond to my aunty on monday, we're going to threat them with a complaint.
to sum up how long it can take these clowns, i had been missing some of my medication and was set to have a program in place, it happened to take the social worker over 8 months to resolve the issue! The chances are i would have still been waiting had the social worker not been threated with a complaint on that occassion.
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As played it does look like a bluff although a lot of people still won't like calling with A high. Imo if we're gonna bluff this river, his range is capped to vv weak hands so we should just go really big on the river, maybe a shove, and we'll get folds almost 100% of the time
I may have got a loss but overall, i'm thinking that ive got an idea of where i might be making all these losses, this afternoon i suffered lots of losses but this evening these same hands were now getting me winnings.
all in all i lost a total of £53.79
cash -4p but the last minute cooler was what give it that
SnG -£6.85
MTT -£46.90
I did for a a fair amount of time have a loss of about £43 looking to happen on 888 poker but then came some good coolers allowing me to finish on that site with £8.21
being a live event i would be expecting the MTT to be played through the weekend as a whole and as i live in spennymoor i could just get a bus back to my own house if i knew it finished at a certain time, so could someone tell me, do these live MTTs stop at around 11pm or will they continue on to a later time and leaving me to probably get a taxi (as taxis will cost about the same price as a hotel
In the end i've still finished with more than i start with because i got £66 worth of cash from sats therefore i'm going to quit whilst ahead and leave the game for tonight.
I'll try and remember to just sit out next time.
as for the hand itself, maybe i caused the exit myself.
Q. knowing that he has R/F in the late stages of an MTT holding just 10BB, i don't expect him to be LAG. As they say, an MTT can't be won but it can certainly be lost in the early stages and nowing this L/RR has got high potential to be an AA, far more chance of that than QQ, should i therefore just fold my KK pre and wait for better times?
Most of the day I had been playing 6 cash tables, My first session was looking likely to be an awful start with me constantly winning small pots and loosing big ones, the trouble was loose passive were calling with all sorts preflop, played monsters deceptive and were frequently calling flops then folding turns. When the site itself went down, i could still play cash tables as long as i was already on them and as recs were unlikely to reload, the tables themselves began consisting mainly of regs, i could now have an easier job hand reading, therefore it was easier to bluff, fold or call and during that period of time my awful game turned into a great one although i still did finish of with a loss of about £55.
My two evening sessions were once again looking very bad ones indeed, again i seemed to be playing like a feeding station and not getting myself decent value with the good hands, at 11pm i tried one final route, I decided to play 13 tables together and incredibly this worked an absolute treat, I was no longer becoming bored as i would be likely to have a hand to play nearly every minute, I also found the losses much easier to accept because it was most likely to have been a loss that was made up on the rest of the tables, in the end nl20 usually has more recs than it has regs per table and if i'm so concerned about my BR dropping then i shouldn't be playing as loose against recs.
In the early stages i did get myself down to 1060 chips, I remained patient and about 10 hands later doubled my stack having hit a set on the flop.
Having started to read the chris moorman book and following on from how that KJs played out, i've started to analyse the board more carefully and though more carefully about my plan of action on the next street.
I also don't think its necessarily an auto 3bet from the button, calling seems good with position.
That hand cost you a 1/3 of your stack, when it really should have just been a flesh wound (as Tikay would say).
From the oppos pov if he shoves AQ then he's normally only getting called by better?
From villains perspective, we have to be reasonably confident with our hand. You could argue him shoving only gets called by better, or a monster combo draw maybe. It looks a little like a panic shove where he doesn't want to have to bet/call off the turn and is thus taking any decisions away himself by shoving.
If you wanna get into a levelling war, if villain thinks that hero thinks I wouldn't shove AQ, then its a great shove....
now this might sound stupid but knowing how high stress levels can get through bordom, the last thing i want to be doing is playing poker after having a boring day. So my target for 2015 is to start getting myself more active with things during the day such as bike rides and cleaning the house. That way come the evening i'll be feeling alot more relaxing and instead of playing poker as a way to get myself out of bordom, i shall be playing poker more like a relaxing and fun manner.
my second target for this year is set myself a study day.
most days i was getting on average a simpular amount of large losses as i was getting large wins.
what i found different today, I was happy, relaxed and had some time outside, I also now have started noting things that i see mentioned on deuces cracked s i've paid a fee to start watching the videos on that training site.
Today i got 5 losses over £5 and managed 6 wins over £5, my total outcome for the day was a loss of -£3.65.
cash was £1.38
MTT -£5.03
i had played som 888poker too and that one had today got me a win of $5.07
Now that I'm starting to go out more, I’ve been feeling more calm and relaxed during my poker session.
Today I had managed to make my way into the main event via a semi but didn’t last very long in the main event itself; I had lost one great chance to treble my stack in a way which can be debateable to some. Blinds were 30/60; my stack was 1820 and was in the SB holding A3s. The problem was UTG+1 had raised by 3BB, making it more risking of me making the call. 2BB or IP I might have called but I think 3BB was one too many for me to call OOP when it’s only really a flush draw I'm wanting. Unfortunately the flop came 833 and the BB, and UTG+1 both jammed their whole stacks.
MTTs were not any good but the cash games was a different story altogether. Normally I see these tables playing a very weak passive game. Today was anything but weak passive, one player got unlucky on a river, having 3bet pre and he cbets both the flop and turn, now I was in a very hard spot thinking surely my AQ is beaten, the river can happen to change the story altogether having come Q, the attempted river jam made by 34s was no good. Another player that got unlucky was someone with 33, he choose to Ch/R his pair on the flop 554ss, holding 1010 I make the call, unfortunately for him the turn give me a 10 and I decide to make the raise, he then went all in maybe thinking I hold the straight flush or nut flush draws.
I did receive 3heavy losses having gone all in with a nut flush draw 4 to the flush K high draw and over pair on the river Q8892 dd hh c, so to have still won £79.93 overall, I think it's a sign that I’ve been playing poker at the wrong times
Cash £92.63
MTT -£12.70
not much else to report really and knowing i've just did the stupidest of actions i'm going to call it a day.
overall i lost -£36.16
all in all i've lost another £16.94 and who'd have thought i would come out and say, "i wish i never did so good in highroller!"
the truth is i've still not managed to get anywhere near booking this holiday, that money i won is still sitting inside my bank account all because of the fact i'll need the carer with me.
What i'm going to do now is give this social worker one last chance and if he doesn't respond to my aunty on monday, we're going to threat them with a complaint.
to sum up how long it can take these clowns, i had been missing some of my medication and was set to have a program in place, it happened to take the social worker over 8 months to resolve the issue! The chances are i would have still been waiting had the social worker not been threated with a complaint on that occassion.
Think of it this way, whats the point winning money if i can't use it?