hmm yeah sorry you are right and I cant find the link to it to link it here Posted by MrWh1te
Hi It is under Sit & Go Strategy The first post - ABC of DYMS by John Connor- Tikay has a link to it in his first post. I think it is a permanent thread as the title is in red.
Been a while since i last updated but nothing much to report other than £3.30 getting lost in DTD 1 and 2 having fealt too keen on watching some of the shows on channel 5 this week.
kept myself on standard DYMS alone today and it did appear to make a better outcome, my DYM exits generally had a win between each and every one of them other than one occassion when i'd went 2 in a row. 6 tables were my limit 4 £1.15 and 2 £2.25. Prior to the sit and go i also did a late entry into a semi sat for £1.60 which didn't go well but that price was soon reduced to 60p loss from £1 cash in freeroll
Overall: £1.60 £2+25p: £2.00 5/8 £1+15p 20p 7/12-these were generally a cash then exit pattern
finally I've calmed myself down and feel relaxed enough to play some poker again and when a team loses 5-1 against palace and a former manager it certainly can be difficult to get over.
Tonight DYMs were based mainly on £2+25p DYMs more that anything with a total of 19 played and cashing out in 11, i did have 2 £1+15p DYM but neither were cashed and alongside those were 3 £+30 PL08 and 2 got cashed.
Although I kept myself away from the main poker yesterday did have $5 won on 888 when I decided to try some 7 card stud as those betting routes meant cash was never to increase or decrease in large chunks therefore i'm certainly at minimum risk of becoming more wound up.
edit: freeroll did have a guarentee problem, sky gave all the missing cash next morning. overall £3.05
Tonight those £1+15p DYMs were filling up more frequently so the DYM tabling was a balance containing 3 £1+15p and 3 £2+25p (2 £2+25p DYMs whilst freeroll was going). £1+15p had a few bad timing all in double up intents alongside a sneaky bit of deceptive play so my BR hadn't did much increase. The £2+25p were a different story altogether, i'd only seen an early exit in 2 of them DYMs, the general reason for a better run in these was my AI doubles appeared to keep being folded, I did strike lucky with a smaller pair striking set and if that wasn't enough one DYM was finished even quicker than turbo when first up I knock out a person from Ch/C an AI made with 86o v A3o on 754 5hhh 2, I couldn't get my head round it at first but my guess is this was just a loose table as someone with A10 goes AI and gets called by 10 10 and AA on a river JJ 8 Q K.
as tight as DYMs are an all in isn't certain to get folds. when not against pairs, i'll usually win 30-40% of the time. Q. how often will I need a play to fold for this move to be a positive move?
A combination of winter giveaway cash time, private TPT MTT and the DYMs themselves means i've spread my time out onto a mixture of different styles. To begin with I'd played DYMs but my attempt to simplify some notes and stats made them feel disorganised but as it wasn't too far from 8pm I diverted across to cash before this problem got too bad.
A return sky cash tables were a thing I thought wmight have been left alone but tonights winter giveaway challenge meant i needed cash table points. I suspect I only needed 2 points awayed during the time they ask I jumped onto the first nl10p table available, entered with £5 and just played the patient game and once the point was given went out right away and returned onto DYMs and played these ones with a note structure more well planned and orgaised.
It looks like DYM domination has switch across from £1.15 to £2.25. £2.25 DYMs are expected to give me a larger total cash prize as £1.15 but the difference in winning percentages are making my £2.25 grand cash totals way more than twice as much as £1.15 and tonight itself had 7 out of 8 cash prizes achieve in £2.25 but just 7 out of 12 cash prize totals for £1.15 DYMs
Next week is unlikely to get much of a change but if my days go well enough I might take the next step up and begin to play a couple of £3.30 DYMs and have £2.25 DYMs as my new main ones.
Overall: £9.05- I could of had another £3.80 in the freeroll hoody when I had the choice of either taking the chance to double up with AQs or play it safe and fold, I took the gamble and went out to 102o hitting.
£1+15p DYM: -95p (7/13)- DYMs had 20p profit but due to being 2 points short of the 50 point target I did a quick turbo
This Monday it was all about DTD 3. AJs is 3bet jammed preflop and striked itself lucky as a pair of aces and from then on I was able to play general poker with a chipstack getting bigger and bigger, soon you'd see 2nd place twice or three times as small as myself and a chip stack 80BB deep at 800/1600.
DTD 1 and 2 were both unsucessful, DTD 1 was over before DTD 3 even began.
Overall:£58.27 MTT:£58.18 30p DYM: 10p (2/3) played for winter giveaway.
Although I've started to spend my entire poker time on either DYMs and MTTs I've not fully given up cash, my general aim at this minute in time is to just get my BR back towards £1000 through a poker game which varience is easy to take. Once it does get back to £1K I might play sky nl20 cash tables and most certainly play pokerstars cash more often.
Today saw me put full game time into low cost DYMs and it proved to be a break even one. I didn't really have too much expectation of a good time in my first total low stakes DYMs and all in situations did become slightly mor difficult due to a greater simularity in chip stack sizes during mid and late stages.
Tonight DYMs seemed to have a more unual dynamic than you normally expect, building up a nice chip stack during the early stages fealt more crucial to a win that you might expect because if by you didn't get this stack decent enough then you'd be facing a dilemma where you've either take a greater risk going all in or live in hope that you strike the board well enough to ensure limpers would not steal yet another blind through blocker betting.
There was a loss on both £3.30 and £2.25 DYM and of the two it was the £2.25 where luck came in most, £3.30 themselves had a frequent number of all ins being run into calling hands but the £2.25 had a number of losses caused by blocker betting chip drainage and riskier double up hopes.
Overall:-£13.35
£3+30p: -£3.6 (6/12) £2.25: -£4.5 (9/18)
1 hyper £5.25 was also lost when I played on a friends mobile for points but had I knew This would only give 3 points i'd have just left todays promo.
At this minute in time my bankroll overall is too small to even think about going onto cash, I made an attempt back in the spring to try and rebuild my bankroll but this proved too great a risk, I was frequently going over the top in attempts to build my bankroll back up at the time and because chasing cash on the days a small loss might hav e happened therefore I got heavy losses instead. my bankroll at this minute in time stands at £159 and that's just too small for nl10, as for nl4 I tend to believe I can make as much on a much smaller risk DYM game.
It's my determination to get this bankroll back to it's old size that makes me see DYMs the best route. These are an easy style of game, as a tournament game I'll have a much easier time putting that bad luck to one side whilst i continue playing relaxingly and a bad start won't risk chases as it's the sit and go which takes the cash rather than my hands. I could spenjd more time mid day on pokerstars where my bankroll is large and cash does get played.
Today I've made £22.90 in DYM cash which is not much more than I expect in a 3 hour nl4p and when looking at the rake part of it I've got 58p less that I'd normally loose on cash rake. at £200 I could drop £2 DYMs and move onto 3.30+ £5.50
I'd kept myself away from poker tables last week because I didn't feel that relaxed and just ensured it wouldn't create another run like the one I had earlier this year.
I didn't feel too relaxed to start off with today, I had decided to deregister from the 3rd and 4th DYM and leave once my first two finished having now started. This mood did soon turn around again and just as I exited DYM those two I fealt as though I now could and did want to play whilst listening to the darts matches in the back ground.
I've made a quick jump up to £3.30 DYMs making them my main one now because my BR has 50 of these in it, they are smaller rake that the £2.25 and have played poker for a few years now. I had 22 games and would 4 table them. I had won my first 4 DYMs which came after exiting my 2 tables at the beginning. Now that I knew I was up in cash I made one final break to review myself and went on to feel confidient enough to continue.
I'm not suggesting you are not telling the truth, but You SHOULD get 3 points for a £3.30 Six Max & I can't think of a reason why you would not, unless they are set up incorrectly.
Sit & Go's and Tournaments: You will also earn Poker Points for buying in to any Multi and Single Table Tournament. You will earn 10 Poker Points for every £1 in entrance fees paid. For example, if you enter a £10 + £1 tournament, the £10 is your contribution to the prize fund and the additional £1 is the "fee" that you pay. This means in this example that you will earn 10 Poker Points. All loyalty points earned will be credited to your account at the end of each hand or tournament and can be viewed by going to 'My Account'.
There's an MTT that doesn't cough up the correct amount of points. It's the £200 deepstack, £5.50 buy in but only 3 points when you bust. Runs a couple of evenings a week.
I'm just not petty enough to complain about it to anyone, though there are a few on here who would happily chunter over it!
There's an MTT that doesn't cough up the correct amount of points. It's the £200 deepstack, £5.50 buy in but only 3 points when you bust. Runs a couple of evenings a week. I'm just not petty enough to complain about it to anyone, though there are a few on here who would happily chunter over it! Posted by hhyftrftdr
It's possible the £3.30 Six Max points are set up incorrectly, but if so, I'm extremely surprised there have not been a lot of complaints, all things considered.
It can't be set up wrong ONCE, it's either always right or always wrong with a particular SNG.
In Response to Re: craigcu12 diary- Merry Christmas all : My own shock of this points rewards ttal only really came about because of a 50 points total being my aim at th time, I wanted to try hat christmas freeroll therefore tried to fit some poker time in amountst a busy weekend. At the late stage of that final table I was starting to get wound up by the dog consistantly squealing at me and began to regret just doing 2 30p turbo DYMs which would get sat out. Finally I finished and therefore took the dogout for it's walk with expectation of beig in the freeroll but having noticed it didn't accept me I became shocked and asked about it on communty. Now that points challenges have finished I'm not really bothered myself so you don't need to look into this, I just didn't like made to look like a lier. Posted by craigcu12
Whoa there Craig, read my posts again.
I just tried to sort it out, including writing to the Office, & posting 5 or 6 times on this thread & the other thread.
At no stage did I suggest you were telling porkies, & I was very careful in my choice of words, saying you SHOULD get 3 points for a £3.30 SNG (& you should), & suggesting that PERHAPS it finished after the deadline, as I could not fathom any other reason why you would not be credited with the correct points. It's all done automatically.
I can't really say I regret anything I wrote, or did, in trying to help you. It was just that - trying to solve the problem, no more, no less. Can't think of too many sites that would go to such lengths over a single Reward Point & a Freeroll. I most certainly did not cast any aspersions as to your integrity.
In Response to Re: craigcu12 diary- Merry Christmas all : My own shock of this points rewards ttal only really came about because of a 50 points total being my aim at th time, I wanted to try hat christmas freeroll therefore tried to fit some poker time in amountst a busy weekend. At the late stage of that final table I was starting to get wound up by the dog consistantly squealing at me and began to regret just doing 2 30p turbo DYMs which would get sat out. Finally I finished and therefore took the dogout for it's walk with expectation of beig in the freeroll but having noticed it didn't accept me I became shocked and asked about it on communty. Now that points challenges have finished I'm not really bothered myself so you don't need to look into this, I just didn't like made to look like a lier at the time. Posted by craigcu12
Just a brief on tonight where I give some UKOPs a go along side that £400 BH uning a token.
I tried 3 all in sats all of which lot first hand. The mini BH was short lasting when I getmy chips all in with AK against KJs and get left drawing dead on the flop something I'd say is a bigger upset that being rivered.
the £400 Bh had got 2 head prizes which itself was more than I expected having had a table with chipstacks twice as big as mine by the time it was 75/150 blind.
One of my intentions this year was to play a greate number of MTTs and i couldn't have begun much better aving got my lowest main and mini score yet having finished 55th in the main and 2nd in the mini.
My entry into the main event was 30 minutes late and gained through Lr semi, I might look back on this and deem myself paying the price of a bubble chance wth throwing away a double up victory just 6 hands later calling 10BB 3bet all in with my KQs.
The mini event was entered just after it started and appeared to have me written all over it. My stack began buildng in standard game play then came 3 bounties with KK, AA and JJ in 3 of 10 hands and was decent from then on until a min 3bet bluff failed even then my chipstack was still over 10BB and soon became doubled.
Being under 1K i'm going to leave this prize in my BR.
A combination of not being fully focused, not knowing as much about PL08 and some bad luck and timing in holdem has resulted in a costly weekend.
Saturday appeared to be a not fully focused day. The LR semi of that day appeared to see me turn hyper all of the sudden resulting in a great looking stack threw away in seconds. I did have a standard exit in the previous semi and might be able to deem that second exit a cost of 0 thanks to a cash prize in both a £5.5 and £3.30 PL08 DYM played.
Sunday I played my other 5 PL08 DYMs and they proved to be costly, not a single one saw me pass the bubble so all in all that cost me £22.30. My PL08 part of the challenge had now be do therefore I went onto holdem DYM thinking I could recover some of that loss I made but I was proven wrong due to a couple of badly timed bets and the occasional bad luck when AI, I won 6 out of 11 and left me pretty much break even
My Br today has seen a turn for the worse making a loss of over £80. Volenteering work was cancelled tomorrow so I decided to spend an hour on the master cash table which had the rec and pro as a one off. I could have left the minute both sky TV players had left because my enjoyment was to play on the table amoungst those two players but no I decided to take a gamble remaining on the table even when these had gone and it wasn't long before my full stack went out the window from callig a 4bet raise on 992 J, I end up hitting K, he goes Ch leaving me to pot bet and get him AI.
The sit and g time hadn't been much better itself having cashed out in 2 of 6 £5.50 DYMs, I might have £300 now but maybe I'm taking myself too far consistant of £5.50 DYMs alone, Tomorrow I'll start playing a mixture of £3.30 and £5.50 because £3.30 DYMs are the type i've confident enough to cash prizes already and can keep any £5.50 losses to a minimum whilst I discover how well I'll do in £5.50
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Worth a re-read too imo.
and I cant find the link to it to link it here
It is under Sit & Go Strategy
The first post - ABC of DYMS by John Connor- Tikay has a link to it in his first post.
I think it is a permanent thread as the title is in red.
kept myself on standard DYMS alone today and it did appear to make a better outcome, my DYM exits generally had a win between each and every one of them other than one occassion when i'd went 2 in a row. 6 tables were my limit 4 £1.15 and 2 £2.25.
Prior to the sit and go i also did a late entry into a semi sat for £1.60 which didn't go well but that price was soon reduced to 60p loss from £1 cash in freeroll
Overall: £1.60
£2+25p: £2.00 5/8
£1+15p 20p 7/12-these were generally a cash then exit pattern
Tonight DYMs were based mainly on £2+25p DYMs more that anything with a total of 19 played and cashing out in 11, i did have 2 £1+15p DYM but neither were cashed and alongside those were 3 £+30 PL08 and 2 got cashed.
Although I kept myself away from the main poker yesterday did have $5 won on 888 when I decided to try some 7 card stud as those betting routes meant cash was never to increase or decrease in large chunks therefore i'm certainly at minimum risk of becoming more wound up.
edit: freeroll did have a guarentee problem, sky gave all the missing cash next morning.
overall £3.05
£1+15p: -£2.30 (0/2)
£2+25p: £1.25 (11/19)
£3+30p PL08: £2.10 (2/3)
MTT freeroll: £2
The £2+25p were a different story altogether, i'd only seen an early exit in 2 of them DYMs, the general reason for a better run in these was my AI doubles appeared to keep being folded, I did strike lucky with a smaller pair striking set and if that wasn't enough one DYM was finished even quicker than turbo when first up I knock out a person from Ch/C an AI made with 86o v A3o on 754 5hhh 2, I couldn't get my head round it at first but my guess is this was just a loose table as someone with A10 goes AI and gets called by 10 10 and AA on a river JJ 8 Q K.
as tight as DYMs are an all in isn't certain to get folds. when not against pairs, i'll usually win 30-40% of the time.
Q. how often will I need a play to fold for this move to be a positive move?
£1+15p: 20p (7/12)
£2+25p: 7.25 (7/9)
MTT: £1 freeroll
A return sky cash tables were a thing I thought wmight have been left alone but tonights winter giveaway challenge meant i needed cash table points. I suspect I only needed 2 points awayed during the time they ask I jumped onto the first nl10p table available, entered with £5 and just played the patient game and once the point was given went out right away and returned onto DYMs and played these ones with a note structure more well planned and orgaised.
Overall: -£2.37
DYM £1+15p: -65p (6/11)
DYM £2+25p -£2.5 (5/10)
MTT: -£1.80
cash: £2.58
Next week is unlikely to get much of a change but if my days go well enough I might take the next step up and begin to play a couple of £3.30 DYMs and have £2.25 DYMs as my new main ones.
Overall: £9.05- I could of had another £3.80 in the freeroll hoody when I had the choice of either taking the chance to double up with AQs or play it safe and fold, I took the gamble and went out to 102o hitting.
£1+15p DYM: -95p (7/13)- DYMs had 20p profit but due to being 2 points short of the 50 point target I did a quick turbo
£2+25p DYM: £10 (7/8)
Head over to pushfoldcharts.com
That will give you a guide about 10bb or less stacks and what to do when shoving with them, must take into account antes.
DTD 1 and 2 were both unsucessful, DTD 1 was over before DTD 3 even began.
Overall:£58.27
MTT:£58.18
30p DYM: 10p (2/3) played for winter giveaway.
Today saw me put full game time into low cost DYMs and it proved to be a break even one. I didn't really have too much expectation of a good time in my first total low stakes DYMs and all in situations did become slightly mor difficult due to a greater simularity in chip stack sizes during mid and late stages.
Overall: £.515
£2+25p: £1.75 (10/17)
£3+30p: £2.40 (7/12)
MTT freeroll: £1
There was a loss on both £3.30 and £2.25 DYM and of the two it was the £2.25 where luck came in most, £3.30 themselves had a frequent number of all ins being run into calling hands but the £2.25 had a number of losses caused by blocker betting chip drainage and riskier double up hopes.
Overall:-£13.35
£3+30p: -£3.6 (6/12)
£2.25: -£4.5 (9/18)
1 hyper £5.25 was also lost when I played on a friends mobile for points but had I knew This would only give 3 points i'd have just left todays promo.
Do you still play cash?
The rake on those £2 DYMs is ridiculously bad, even 10% is bad!
You would soon build up to 1k on cash, in no time at al @10nl.
It's my determination to get this bankroll back to it's old size that makes me see DYMs the best route. These are an easy style of game, as a tournament game I'll have a much easier time putting that bad luck to one side whilst i continue playing relaxingly and a bad start won't risk chases as it's the sit and go which takes the cash rather than my hands. I could spenjd more time mid day on pokerstars where my bankroll is large and cash does get played.
Today I've made £22.90 in DYM cash which is not much more than I expect in a 3 hour nl4p and when looking at the rake part of it I've got 58p less that I'd normally loose on cash rake. at £200 I could drop £2 DYMs and move onto 3.30+ £5.50
Overall: £22.90
£2+25p: £13 (10/12)
£3+30p: £9.90 (11/17)
£2+25p:
I didn't feel too relaxed to start off with today, I had decided to deregister from the 3rd and 4th DYM and leave once my first two finished having now started. This mood did soon turn around again and just as I exited DYM those two I fealt as though I now could and did want to play whilst listening to the darts matches in the back ground.
I've made a quick jump up to £3.30 DYMs making them my main one now because my BR has 50 of these in it, they are smaller rake that the £2.25 and have played poker for a few years now. I had 22 games and would 4 table them. I had won my first 4 DYMs which came after exiting my 2 tables at the beginning. Now that I knew I was up in cash I made one final break to review myself and went on to feel confidient enough to continue.
overall £17.40
£3+30p: £17.40 (15/22)
I don't understand that, Craig.
I'm not suggesting you are not telling the truth, but You SHOULD get 3 points for a £3.30 Six Max & I can't think of a reason why you would not, unless they are set up incorrectly.
See THIS
And specifically......
Sit & Go's and Tournaments: You will also earn Poker Points for buying in to any Multi and Single Table Tournament. You will earn 10 Poker Points for every £1 in entrance fees paid. For example, if you enter a £10 + £1 tournament, the £10 is your contribution to the prize fund and the additional £1 is the "fee" that you pay. This means in this example that you will earn 10 Poker Points. All loyalty points earned will be credited to your account at the end of each hand or tournament and can be viewed by going to 'My Account'.
So a £3.30 Six Max SNG should be worth 3 points.I'm just not petty enough to complain about it to anyone, though there are a few on here who would happily chunter over it!
It can't be set up wrong ONCE, it's either always right or always wrong with a particular SNG.
I just tried to sort it out, including writing to the Office, & posting 5 or 6 times on this thread & the other thread.
At no stage did I suggest you were telling porkies, & I was very careful in my choice of words, saying you SHOULD get 3 points for a £3.30 SNG (& you should), & suggesting that PERHAPS it finished after the deadline, as I could not fathom any other reason why you would not be credited with the correct points. It's all done automatically.
I can't really say I regret anything I wrote, or did, in trying to help you. It was just that - trying to solve the problem, no more, no less. Can't think of too many sites that would go to such lengths over a single Reward Point & a Freeroll. I most certainly did not cast any aspersions as to your integrity.
Please re-read my posts.
Thanks.
PS - Happy New Year mate.
It's gone now peace at last.
I tried 3 all in sats all of which lot first hand. The mini BH was short lasting when I getmy chips all in with AK against KJs and get left drawing dead on the flop something I'd say is a bigger upset that being rivered.
the £400 Bh had got 2 head prizes which itself was more than I expected having had a table with chipstacks twice as big as mine by the time it was 75/150 blind.
MTT-£11.90
My entry into the main event was 30 minutes late and gained through Lr semi, I might look back on this and deem myself paying the price of a bubble chance wth throwing away a double up victory just 6 hands later calling 10BB 3bet all in with my KQs.
The mini event was entered just after it started and appeared to have me written all over it. My stack began buildng in standard game play then came 3 bounties with KK, AA and JJ in 3 of 10 hands and was decent from then on until a min 3bet bluff failed even then my chipstack was still over 10BB and soon became doubled.
Being under 1K i'm going to leave this prize in my BR.
Overall: £239.06
MTT: £245.16
PL08 DYM: -£6.10
Saturday appeared to be a not fully focused day. The LR semi of that day appeared to see me turn hyper all of the sudden resulting in a great looking stack threw away in seconds. I did have a standard exit in the previous semi and might be able to deem that second exit a cost of 0 thanks to a cash prize in both a £5.5 and £3.30 PL08 DYM played.
Sunday I played my other 5 PL08 DYMs and they proved to be costly, not a single one saw me pass the bubble so all in all that cost me £22.30. My PL08 part of the challenge had now be do therefore I went onto holdem DYM thinking I could recover some of that loss I made but I was proven wrong due to a couple of badly timed bets and the occasional bad luck when AI, I won 6 out of 11 and left me pretty much break even
Overall: -£32.60
MTT: -£14.40
PL08:-£18.10 (1/2 £3.30, 1/5£5.50)
PLO:40p
£5.50 holdem:-50p (6/11)
The sit and g time hadn't been much better itself having cashed out in 2 of 6 £5.50 DYMs, I might have £300 now but maybe I'm taking myself too far consistant of £5.50 DYMs alone, Tomorrow I'll start playing a mixture of £3.30 and £5.50 because £3.30 DYMs are the type i've confident enough to cash prizes already and can keep any £5.50 losses to a minimum whilst I discover how well I'll do in £5.50
overall: -£89.72
£5.50DYM:-£23
master cash:-£67.12
PLO:40p
Morning Craig,
Did you see the replies to your question in the Poker Clinic, on PLO8 starting hand selection?
Were they of any help?