the MEADOWS KILLAS only 2 months experince of cash games diary

meadowskil

how would you guys have played this hand?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
pod1	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£6.21
meadowskil	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.21
chalfont	Big blind		£0.04	£0.10	£2.29
	Your hole cards	Q Q
wilfilson1	Fold
chalfont	Check
DogWalker1	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£7.12
cgoldie	Fold
pod1	Call		£0.02	£0.16	£6.19
meadowskil	Raise		£0.32	£0.48	£3.89
chalfont	Fold
DogWalker1	Fold
pod1	Call		£0.32	£0.80	£5.87
Flop
		7 4 5
pod1	Bet		£0.80	£1.60	£5.07
meadowskil	All-in		£3.89	£5.49	£0.00
pod1	Call		£3.09	£8.58	£1.98
pod1	Show	A 6
meadowskil	Show	Q Q
Turn
		5
River
		8
pod1	Win	Straight to the 8	£7.93		£9.91

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meadowskil

Well been on a wiinings streak and now on 48 quid on my original buy in from march, wih 175 withdrawn.

Had aces cracked by 5 3 off when a guy rivered the 5 to hit his trips.

But hit a set of queens, then rivered a ful house to crack a guys nut straight.

So it all evened out thus far.

Phantom66

Hi Meadows well done on making your profits.

On the hands posted above.

With AK I think you should be continuing the betting on the turn, 3/4 pot size bet. The 4h shouldn't really change anything and you have to think you are ahead.

On the river ul that's the worst card you could have hit. Have to think you will only be called by Ax that hasn't made a FH though as the flush and trips are so visible so could maybe have gone for a smaller value bet then rethought if shoved on.

QQ hand not sure I would have done anything different - looks like a cooler to me. Villain could be betting out plenty of hands you are beating and the draw which was the case. 

You were definitely right to not just call flop bet and with u/d str8 and nut flush draw the money is always going in at that point.

meadowskil

In Response to Re: the MEADOWS KILLAS only 2 months experince of cash games diary:

Hi Meadows well done on making your profits. On the hands posted above. With AK I think you should be continuing the betting on the turn, 3/4 pot size bet. The 4h shouldn't really change anything and you have to think you are ahead. On the river ul that's the worst card you could have hit. Have to think you will only be called by Ax that hasn't made a FH though as the flush and trips are so visible so could maybe have gone for a smaller value bet then rethought if shoved on. QQ hand not sure I would have done anything different - looks like a cooler to me. Villain could be betting out plenty of hands you are beating and the draw which was the case.  You were definitely right to not just call flop bet and with u/d str8 and nut flush draw the money is always going in at that point.
Posted by Phantom66

cheers mate

I was happy how I played this hand

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
mac197611	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£10.38
blade203	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.34
	Your hole cards	A K
meadowskil	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£4.29
blinkhil	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£3.94
Saphhire	Raise		£0.22	£0.36	£3.76
chancjr	Fold
mac197611	Fold
blade203	Call		£0.18	£0.54	£2.16
meadowskil	Call		£0.18	£0.72	£4.11
blinkhil	Call		£0.18	£0.90	£3.76
Flop
		4 A 2
blade203	Check
meadowskil	Check
blinkhil	Check
Saphhire	Bet		£0.68	£1.58	£3.08
blade203	Fold
meadowskil	All-in		£4.11	£5.69	£0.00
blinkhil	Fold
Saphhire	All-in		£3.08	£8.77	£0.00
meadowskil	Unmatched bet		£0.35	£8.42	£0.35
meadowskil	Show	A K
Saphhire	Show	6 A
Turn
		9
River
		J
meadowskil	Win	Pair of Aces	£7.78		£8.13

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meadowskil

pocket 9's on dealer chip, but the rest played itself, im surprised no one re raised me?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
841LEY	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.99
oldgit	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.96
	Your hole cards	9 9
bustout44	Raise		£0.12	£0.18	£3.59
craigcu12	Fold
coco521	Fold
meadowskil	Raise		£0.20	£0.38	£6.42
841LEY	Call		£0.18	£0.56	£3.81
oldgit	Fold
bustout44	Call		£0.08	£0.64	£3.51
Flop
		9 2 2
841LEY	Bet		£0.32	£0.96	£3.49
bustout44	Call		£0.32	£1.28	£3.19
meadowskil	All-in		£6.42	£7.70	£0.00
841LEY	All-in		£3.49	£11.19	£0.00
bustout44	All-in		£3.19	£14.38	£0.00
meadowskil	Unmatched bet		£2.61	£11.77	£2.61
841LEY	Show	J J
bustout44	Show	A A
meadowskil	Show	9 9
Turn
		10
River
		K
meadowskil	Win	Full House, 9s and 2s	£10.88		£13.49

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meadowskil

withdrew 13.31, so back to my original 30 quid since march and ill have to double check my profits, played a bit in the day today as its good to play the better egulars to improve and sharpen up. Got outplayed and donked on one table some money with top pair with a weak kicker, straight was out and queen was my kicker. At the same time won with kings v tens to limit the damage. Hopefully ill play better for the rest of the week.

total profit 204 quid since march.

LARSON7

Going well meadows, that's a nice profit you have taken out since March.

How do you think your game is going?

chicknMelt

instead of withdrawing all your profits, why not build up a bankroll and consider moving up a level? you could do something like, keep half of profits and use the other half to build your BR each month - you'd be withdrawing less to start with, but in the long run you migh make a whole lot more...

meadowskil

In Response to Re: the MEADOWS KILLAS only 2 months experince of cash games diary:

Going well meadows, that's a nice profit you have taken out since March. How do you think your game is going?
Posted by LARSON7

I think its definitely improved, but more so mentally. I Analyse why I lost hands maths wise rather than moaning how unlucky I was.

But although I have improved ALOT since March, Sky poker standard has improved don't you agree? So in inflationary adjusted terms interms of standard I think I have only slightly improved. but in ring games with my friends im doing very well so its def helped playing here.








In Response to Re: the MEADOWS KILLAS only 2 months experince of cash games diary:

instead of withdrawing all your profits, why not build up a bankroll and consider moving up a level? you could do something like, keep half of profits and use the other half to build your BR each month - you'd be withdrawing less to start with, but in the long run you migh make a whole lot more...
Posted by chicknMelt

I don't have the time, I think you have to put in the volume for me to become a genuinely good player.

Perhaps you can help me with these two losses as despite my profits im on 25.50 after having aces cracked twice yesterday. My question is shouldi shoved on the queen 3 suited flop?

Hit me back with feedback with these two disasters.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Pean007	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£5.73
1861	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.66
pokermask	Sit out
	Your hole cards	A A
meadowskil	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£5.82
4thethrill	Fold
Pean007	Call		£0.02	£0.12	£5.71
1861	Raise		£0.16	£0.28	£3.50
meadowskil	Raise		£0.64	£0.92	£5.18
Pean007	Fold
1861	Call		£0.48	£1.40	£3.02
Flop
		6 J 8
1861	Bet		£2.96	£4.36	£0.06
meadowskil	All-in		£5.18	£9.54	£0.00
1861	All-in		£0.06	£9.60	£0.00
meadowskil	Unmatched bet		£2.16	£7.44	£2.16
1861	Show	J Q
meadowskil	Show	A A
Turn
		4
River
		Q
1861	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and Jacks	£6.88		£6.88

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Carper211	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£4.01
luckyjimbo	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£4.93
meadowskil	Raise		£0.28	£0.42	£3.55
lukyflinty	Fold
gareth3605	Call		£0.26	£0.68	£4.24
demukaj	Fold
Carper211	Fold
luckyjimbo	Call		£0.24	£0.92	£4.69
Flop
		5 7 9
gareth3605	Check
luckyjimbo	Check
meadowskil	Bet		£0.52	£1.44	£3.03
gareth3605	Fold
luckyjimbo	Call		£0.52	£1.96	£4.17
Turn
		J
luckyjimbo	Bet		£1.96	£3.92	£2.21
meadowskil	All-in		£3.03	£6.95	£0.00
luckyjimbo	Call		£1.07	£8.02	£1.14
luckyjimbo	Show	3 Q
meadowskil	Show	A A
River
		K
luckyjimbo	Win	Flush to the Queen	£7.41		£8.55

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meadowskil

oh dear, well it was either shove or fold imo.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
meadowskil	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.10
rockyvi4	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.80
dabossman	Sit out
	Your hole cards	A A
hawkhurst	Raise		£0.08	£0.14	£1.75
ryana1r07	Fold
SWAGGER27	Fold
meadowskil	Raise		£0.22	£0.36	£3.88
rockyvi4	Fold
hawkhurst	Call		£0.16	£0.52	£1.59
Flop
		7 5 J
meadowskil	All-in		£3.88	£4.40	£0.00
hawkhurst	All-in		£1.59	£5.99	£0.00
meadowskil	Unmatched bet		£2.29	£3.70	£2.29
meadowskil	Show	A A
hawkhurst	Show	10 Q
Turn
		4
River
		2
hawkhurst	Win	Flush to the Queen	£3.42		£3.42

LARSON7

lol it's not a shove or a fold!

Play some poker, put in your normal continuation bet, if you are raised, given vilians stack snap. If he's deeper re assess.

You have aces, see 3 clubs, panic and shove.

meadowskil

In Response to Re: the MEADOWS KILLAS only 2 months experince of cash games diary:

lol it's not a shove or a fold! Play some poker, put in your normal continuation bet, if you are raised, given vilians stack snap. If he's deeper re assess. You have aces, see 3 clubs, panic and shove.
Posted by LARSON7

i dunno, its 50p preflop, i dont think you can purely pay for him flopping a flush, if you play like that then its very negative. More than likly for me i was hoping he had one club and im forcing it shove on a 3-1 bet, if he doesnt he folds and i earn and nice 50p preflop victory.

But i take your point, and perhaps it was more a case of ive got married to my aces a bit.

meadowskil

ouch...and I ddint even want to play the hand, the rest played itself. DOWN to 16 quid on my original buy in.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Buzzzzzzzi	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.99
meadowskil	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.34
	Your hole cards	J 5
osifeso02	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£4.90
darryn1973	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£4.24
thescholar	Fold
ROBIN-U	Call		£0.04	£0.18	£1.37
Buzzzzzzzi	Fold
meadowskil	Check
Flop
		K 5 J
meadowskil	Check
osifeso02	Bet		£0.18	£0.36	£4.72
darryn1973	Fold
ROBIN-U	Fold
meadowskil	Raise		£0.72	£1.08	£3.62
osifeso02	Raise		£2.16	£3.24	£2.56
meadowskil	Raise		£3.24	£6.48	£0.38
osifeso02	All-in		£2.56	£9.04	£0.00
meadowskil	All-in		£0.38	£9.42	£0.00
osifeso02	Unmatched bet		£0.56	£8.86	£0.56
meadowskil	Show	J 5
osifeso02	Show	A A
Turn
		7
River
		A
osifeso02	Win	Three Aces	£8.19		£8.75

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meadowskil

well I am am finally out of my originally 30 quid buy in, its lasted me almost a year and I made 204 quid from it.

I went on a bad run with thessuch hands shown below, but to be honest I played some poor hands. Iv elearnt a lot over the last month. Especially adding to my criteria to be a better player. The flop which has 3 same suited cards has been my arch nemesis, buting my kings, queens and even working against me. But ill reload in Feb and start a new quest, and hopefully an new and improved player.

TKDROB	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.55
KKKKGHFH55	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.97
	Your hole cards	10 Q
spolisher1	Fold
JAC07	Fold
meadowskil	Raise		£0.08	£0.14	£3.36
TKDROB	Fold
KKKKGHFH55	Call		£0.04	£0.18	£4.93
Flop
		9 5 J
KKKKGHFH55	Check
meadowskil	Bet		£0.09	£0.27	£3.27
KKKKGHFH55	Raise		£0.45	£0.72	£4.48
meadowskil	Call		£0.36	£1.08	£2.91
Turn
		K
KKKKGHFH55	Bet		£0.81	£1.89	£3.67
meadowskil	All-in		£2.91	£4.80	£0.00
KKKKGHFH55	Call		£2.10	£6.90	£1.57
KKKKGHFH55	Show	9 5
meadowskil	Show	10 Q
River
		5
KKKKGHFH55	Win	Full House, 5s and 9s	£6.38		£7.95

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Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Alarthur50	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.98
weeburns07	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.96
	Your hole cards	Q K
slackalice	Fold
TerryGee	Fold
meadowskil	Raise		£0.12	£0.18	£3.51
TTNY	Fold
Alarthur50	Call		£0.10	£0.28	£3.88
weeburns07	Fold
Flop
		6 7 J
Alarthur50	Check
meadowskil	Bet		£0.14	£0.42	£3.37
Alarthur50	Call		£0.14	£0.56	£3.74
Turn
		7
Alarthur50	Check
meadowskil	Bet		£0.42	£0.98	£2.95
Alarthur50	Call		£0.42	£1.40	£3.32
River
		8
Alarthur50	Bet		£0.24	£1.64	£3.08
meadowskil	Call		£0.24	£1.88	£2.71
Alarthur50	Show	A Q
meadowskil	Muck	Q K
Alarthur50	Win	Flush to the Ace	£1.73		£4.81

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meadowskil

Took a month off zfter my 204 pound haul. Read some article and won 3 live games in a row round mates house, so the advce you guys have given me def helped.

I read a article you should put in 25 times the buy in so 100 quid it was. I feel a lot more content with my game than ever.

What im working on is "leeks". So im going to work on pot control and evaluating hands on position a lot more.

Played today, up 2.16 to 102.16. This time ill let the bank roll flow with no with draws.

My aim is to see how long I can last this 100 quid, im hoping a full year, but we  will see, it will prob be over in s month.

devonfish5

Good luck mate building up again. I'm sure you will do it.
why not give yourself a target, say 25 buy-ins for nl10 which is £250.
then give that a try playing 1 table to start off with.
I am doing a similar thing playing nl4 when I get to £200 I'm moving up to nl10.

just an idea for you to think about.
yes nl10 is a step up, for sure, but like all levels, it's beatable.
figuring it out is the tricky bit, but is also 1/2 the fun. if it was easy we would be playing there now, wouldn't we.  he he.

anyway  mate, best of luck again.
dev

meadowskil

In Response to Re: the MEADOWS KILLAS only 2 months experince of cash games diary:

Good luck mate building up again. I'm sure you will do it. why not give yourself a target, say 25 buy-ins for nl10 which is £250. then give that a try playing 1 table to start off with. I am doing a similar thing playing nl4 when I get to £200 I'm moving up to nl10. just an idea for you to think about. yes nl10 is a step up, for sure, but like all levels, it's beatable. figuring it out is the tricky bit, but is also 1/2 the fun. if it was easy we would be playing there now, wouldn't we.  he he. anyway  mate, best of luck again. dev
Posted by devonfish5

cheers mate, don't think im good enough for the 5p 10 p yet although I do dabble on there I have had some success.

Doing ok, up to 103.96. Less leaks, but still need some plumbing in my game, but over all happy return thus far.

While your here can you talk me though how to play aces or kings on a flopped flush draw board, as I lose every single one of them.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
meadowskil	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.50
iatehorse	Sitout
Zerocool7	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.96
	Your hole cards	A A
midas2k	Fold
roottoot	Fold
Clyde420	Raise		£0.12	£0.18	£4.86
meadowskil	Raise		£0.34	£0.52	£3.16
Zerocool7	Fold
Clyde420	Call		£0.24	£0.76	£4.62
Flop
		10 K 4
meadowskil	Check
Clyde420	Check
Turn
		8
meadowskil	Bet		£0.12	£0.88	£3.04
Clyde420	Call		£0.12	£1.00	£4.50
River
		5
meadowskil	Check
Clyde420	Bet		£0.36	£1.36	£4.14
meadowskil	Call		£0.36	£1.72	£2.68
Clyde420	Show	6 7
meadowskil	Muck	A A
Clyde420	Win	Straight to the 8	£1.59		£5.73

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kidwiz10

I agree with other few posts dont keep withdrawing as when you hit a downswing which you will you will eventually have to re deposit if you dont have much room to play with.

Maybe just play for a month and dont withdraw anything and see where you are come the end , dont assume your not good enough for nl10 one day just have ago and see what happens.

That hand with "aces" dont check the flop because if he bets your jsut gunna keep calling down and not no where you stand, then defo dont bet 1/6th of the pot on the turn better off just checking as it seems so weak,

With aces tho at them levels just play ur hands very strong and try not to bluff because most the time ppl wont fold at them levels,

Good luck

meadowskil

In Response to Re: the MEADOWS KILLAS only 2 months experince of cash games diary:

I agree with other few posts dont keep withdrawing as when you hit a downswing which you will you will eventually have to re deposit if you dont have much room to play with. Maybe just play for a month and dont withdraw anything and see where you are come the end , dont assume your not good enough for nl10 one day just have ago and see what happens. That hand with "aces" dont check the flop because if he bets your jsut gunna keep calling down and not no where you stand, then defo dont bet 1/6th of the pot on the turn better off just checking as it seems so weak, With aces tho at them levels just play ur hands very strong and try not to bluff because most the time ppl wont fold at them levels, Good luck
Posted by kidwiz10

cheers mate I agree. I think because ive had such a bad streak with flopped flushes ive been more paranoid than played logical maths.

104.75 now so on a non descript run. How would you have played this guys, should I have checked when the second ten came out?

Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
porkypill	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.00
quadfather	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£8.01
BAITRUNNER	Sit out
	Your hole cards	K K
meadowskil	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£3.23
Yell4Yella	Fold
porkypill	Fold
quadfather	Call		£0.12	£0.34	£7.89
Flop
		5 10 3
quadfather	Check
meadowskil	Bet		£0.26	£0.60	£2.97
quadfather	Call		£0.26	£0.86	£7.63
Turn
		10
quadfather	Check
meadowskil	Bet		£0.43	£1.29	£2.54
quadfather	Call		£0.43	£1.72	£7.20
River
		7
quadfather	Check
meadowskil	Check
quadfather	Show	10 K
meadowskil	Muck	K K
quadfather	Win	Three 10s	£1.59		£8.79

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meadowskil

Up to 105.10. Again lost with kings to king ten. But played quite well and kept my cool. Im not putting my hands up that are bad beats, instead hands that are marginal. Should I have folded?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
nuts1990	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.88
raytei01	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.06
	Your hole cards	K K
cb1ooo	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£5.13
meadowskil	Raise		£0.16	£0.26	£3.48
adeysas1	Fold
winup	Call		£0.16	£0.42	£3.54
nuts1990	Fold
raytei01	Fold
cb1ooo	Fold
Flop
		J 3 6
meadowskil	Bet		£0.21	£0.63	£3.27
winup	Raise		£0.42	£1.05	£3.12
meadowskil	Fold
winup	Muck
winup	Win		£0.77		£3.89
winup	Return		£0.21	£0.07	£4.10

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meadowskil

ive put 100 quid in, and I withdraw everytime I reach a 10 quid profit.

I made a net profit in 2013 of 144 pounds, and in total.

So far ive with drawn 21.40. BTW I feel a lot more comfortable with the flop flushed draws now.

Cheers for your help guys.

meadowskil

withdrawn 11.52 so thats 32.92 for this year, ive not been very active but hopefully witll play more...

GaryLaud

Should you have folded? I think it looks distinctly worrying that the middle has three suited cards OTF, but the fact the guy/gal has simply "Clicked-Back" at you - I dunno...without knowing table dynamics etc then it IS a tricky one to say...

IF however, he'd chucked more chips in that what he/she did, then I'd be thinking that he very well might have a flush.. .but then again?! that's the beauty of poker, because they could always be bluffing!

This is where notes nd so forth come in Handy - however a tricky thing is that at Micro levels, it's a bit harder because I don't think I'm playing with similar players much...

Hope this helps a little..