You need to be logged in to your Sky Poker account above to post discussions and comments.
You might need to refresh your page afterwards.
You need to be logged in to your Sky Poker account above to post discussions and comments.
You might need to refresh your page afterwards.
Comments
"racial equality".....is a poor 'reason' and comment to make, Steve and puts you in a poor light in some people's eyes, i'm sure though i don't think you realised this when you put it, to be fair.
As for the new presenters can we just give them a little more time to settle in and find their feet before making such negative opinions. Give them a chance to find a style that suits them and enables them to gel with their audience. We all look to improve but it takes time. Please give them a chance...
Concrete, Geldy, not cement. CONCRETE.
In case you had forgotten, here is a photograph of some CONCRETE.
And this is cement.
I'd just suggest that perhaps it would be a good idea to get a guest in on Yiannis' next show. It might take a little of the pressure off and not leave him feeling that he needs to contribute to the more technical points. Obviously I don't know about the logistics of getting someone in but how hard can it be? If none of the "known" pros are available, I'm sure TommyD will be happy to turn up (he's not shy). There may also be other not shy people out there.
One final suggestion would be that both Jules and Yiannis would probably benefit from being the subject of 'Analyse My Play'. Watching them donk off a few quid and laugh at themselves a bit might help people warm to them.
I can think of one really good reason why a largely male audience might have more patience with Jules than Yiannis, though. I think we can all understand that.
I do agree, however, that the comment was not intended to be offensive - it was, if I may say so, more "clumsy" than vindictive I think.
The OP was jordz16, though you can be forgiven for the mistake since they use the same picture thingy.
Tikay beat me to the punch this time.
The "racial equality" comment blew me away, to be honest. No idea where that came from.
Concrete, Geldy, not cement. CONCRETE. In case you had forgotten, here is a photograph of some CONCRETE. And this is cement.
Posted by Tikay10
Hi Borin
TY for the heads up m8. IDCU ...sincere apologies but i did think it was unlike you, Steve. Arsenal supporters are such fair-minded fans. (LOL)
Sorry jordz but the comment is and was aimed at you instead.
Its funny after seeing so many IDCU comments with that icon i think he should just be given it by SKY!!!!!!
I should have realised it wasn't you IDCU as, with your well known dyslexia which you down play in good heart, im not sure what it may have said! Sorry again Steve.
Plus, very nice to see him learning as he is presenting and talking about hands, and asking questions people will want answers too.
If all players tried to learn as much as this guy, and spent less time moaning and crying over beats, poker would be a much tougher game IMO
Anyone new is going to get so much stick because everyone is used to the same old faces telling the same old jokes/puns/private banter jokes etc...
Airing you distain for any presentor is just bad form imo, what do you hope to get out of it ?
Do you want them sacked ?
Reminds me of some horrible boys own companies I have worked for, if your face don't fit - your out.
witch hunt anyone ?
Just to give this thread a bit of balance, I find all the presentors at times equally boring......
)
Boring?
What?
WHAT?
Tommy would be a good example as one mentioned i think. Maybe even someone like Matt Bates who crushes us daily. might also give someone a chance to win
My missus says she finds you annoying, she was going to start a thread about it - but I said it's just not worth it !
wow, i kinda feel for the new guys as from my own limited experience a 5hr show is a pretty daunting task & surely everyone should realise that it usually takes a stint or to to warm to a new face on any show. i multi-viewed the 861 show alongside the GPS live stream & thought it was good entertainment. when i first heard carlo was going to be an analyst i did a double take (sry mr citrone), now he's the one who regularly tickles my fancy, whudda thunk it...
Posted by yoyo
I did start a thread a while ago after his first show saying how good I thought Yiannis was and how I was looking forward to seeing more of him.
Admittedly I didn't love his 2nd show as much, I didn't see the show last night, and I'm sure he's not perfect but who is? This was discussed elsewhere and I said at the time how harsh it was to post this kind of thing especially mid-show. It must be a hard job as it is, so to have to read this and not blink an eye and just carry on is not gonna make things any easier.
Obv there's room for improvement as I think there is with pretty much every single presenter on the show (maybe with the exception of Orford... urgh @ saying that lol).
I think it's been mentioned earlier in this thread but one of the things I liked about his first show was that he was clearly a 'rec' player who had some thoughts on the game. He's not a pro, so sometimes his thought processes are wrong, but this is to be expected and if nothing else it sparks debate and allows to analyst to dispel some bad thought processes viewers might have and explain why XYZ is the correct way to play/think.
A lot of good points have been made by Sky Dave/Tikay/Rancid/donttelmum.....even Julian!
Regarding the shows, the presenters/analysts cannot please everyone all of the time. The shows seem to be gearing themselves more towards new players (which makes complete sense as we need new players all of the time). This can mean some of the shows are not aimed at, and therefore not appreciated by the standard forum reg.
There are a number of levels of thinking within poker and sky need to gear themselves towards different levels at different times. When I was on the show, I found it hard (probably frustrating is a better word!) analysing numerous hands where players were limping utg with rags etc however you are there to help players so you have to make sure you explain why what they are doing isn't optimal. If these are the hands players want analysed then you need to do your best to help players.
The 5 hour show is a long time but it is their job so they should be able to do it however as people have mentioned who was perfect at their job after 3 shifts/days! My main issues are
the timing of the post
lack of constructive feedback from some people
racial equality comments which are so far off the mark imo
Its good to have discussion about things BUT we are talking about a person and their job so people should consider that and re read what they post before they post it. I guess its a sign of the times but I keep seeing people post things online that I don't think they would say to peoples faces and I do wonder why people do it!