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I have to agree with just about everything Tikay says on this thread. However that doesn't take away from my opinion that Yiannis is struggling for warmth & likeability. That doesn't mean that he won't get it, just that he is struggling at the moment.
For me that is a complete contrast with Jules, who is warm & likeable. She is also humble and has started very much like Anna & Sarah (and LML & Michelle before them) by being (or acting) relatively dumb, asking lots of questions and trying to learn. Yiannis, on the other hand, is too quick to offer an opinion, even almost getting in an argument with Jen last night which made me cringe. Full credit to Jen for taking it well on screen.
If Yiannis wants to be successful, he needs to learn what makes a good SKY Poker presenter and I am sure there will be plenty of help & advice around.
Full credit to SKY Poker for leaving this thread on the forum and commenting on the wisdom (or otherwise) of the OP. Certainly the comment regarding positive racism was at best ill advised. The timing that the thread was started was also not the best.
I appreciate that doing a five hour live show must be difficult. The professionalism of RO, AF, SC & JH hides these difficulties well. Also having seen YM's three shows, he has shown some improvement. In his first show, he kept rotating in his chair which he has now stopped doing. Maybe this improvement will continue.
Let me just comment on Anna. One or two people said that they weren't keen on her at first. My view was torn between "does she know what she is doing" & "this girl is a fruitcake" but there is something totally endearing about her that gets you on side. That is what Yiannis hasn't got yet.
Can I suggest analysing his game, highlighting his mistakes, him saying "what a dope I am" and then people will start to come round.
PS: If you want a guest on the show, I am usually available.
Should we really start a thread everytime we don't like a show, guest, analayst or presenter.
This whole I am going to post "I thought it was boring" is so not warranted and acheives nothing but to upset the people concerned in a totally negative way.
Constructive critism is one thing, threads like this are an internet viral disease caused by people that don't think before they type.
Would the op feel better if the two presentors never worked for Sky again ?
Is this the sole reason for the thread ?
What is the reason for this thread ?
Negative threads like this just make me want to vommit !
I don't think it's up to forum folk to post out of some sort of responsibility. The show team have to make people want to post.
The dynamic isn't set yet with the new presenters. It's tough to have banter with people you know nothing about. With no Poker Clinic, Analyse My Play, Poker School, etc, there would have been little to encourage poker related contributions and there are no competitions anymore to encourage random chit chat.
I actually missed the show last night so maybe that explains why there weren't dozens more posts.
Don, I wouldn't worry about anyone thinking that you want Yiannis to be sacked. Nobody will read your posts that way. There are some posts here that seem to be aiming at that but I doubt that anyone is going to view them as reasonable. As far as I can tell, these people aren't even giving Mr Morgan the chance to fail.
Cant quite believe the critisism please wait for at least another half dozen shows, then if Yannis still is not flavour of the month then maybe a more measured critique ie plus points, and minus points in his overall approach!
BUT LEAVE THE REST ALONE INC JULES
They don't actively encourage people to use the forum anymore. Not as an alternative to e-mail and twitter, anyway. They do read forum posts just as before, though.
But god knows what sort of response would have been waiting for me had the internet and specifically Twitter existed in those first few weeks for me. I shudder to think. To that end, I think I was shielded from any negative comments, which were undoubtedly out there but had no platform to be expressed- which probably just about kept my confidence above meltdown level!
Yiannis is a good lad, I crossed paths with him once or twice a few years back. Also, it's not an easy gig for someone new to the channel to walk straight into. Try talking five hours straight about one subject. Now add live cameras and someone talking in your ear. Now, add Tikay!
Yes, it's true that all presenters should be able to cope with this as ultimately that's their profession and Yiannis is no exception. But then, he's not lacking in this department. He can obviously do the job. All he needs is time to find his style and hone his schtick for this particular channel. Same goes for Jules. And anyone else coming in new to 861 in the future for that matter. You could throw Jeff Stelling straight into our studio and even he'd need a few shows to get used to the format, all the game and site lingo, being thrown in cold with onscreen partners he'd never met before etc. etc.
So- patience, my young Jedis...
As for Tikay though, I've long given up on him ever improving. You can throw the book at him as far as I'm concerned. Especially during live shows. Fill your boots, my friends. Fill your boots.
pretty sure noone was a fan of Anna early on but now everyone loves her and shes brilliant, sky are blessed with many great presenters and its good to change it up so its not the same.
It might be hard incorporating the "live forum thread" on the show, maybe that's why it was dropped. In my opinion, it's a lot easier doing this than sending an email twooting (in Tks wordS lol)
These contributions would maybe break it up for the presenters, and give a few more talking points. Might be a bit more interactive as well. Might be a good idea to bring back a comp every show, even if it is a small prize like entry into a mini. It would be a talking point for the presenter, use up some time at the end of the show announcing winners.
Just some thoughts on the show generally/
Fascinating thread if you enjoy psychology.
A little negativity goes a very long way, & seems to make a great deal of noise. But once someone pops their head above the parapet & makes the case properly, & in a timely manner, it is amazing how many decent people populate this place.
A great Community this.
At least she knew where her car was.......