In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Hi there, nice run. No you shouldn't have had an email yet, I haven't anyway. We may not even get one tbh, I can't remember. Just keep an eye out in the lobby as it should be this Sunday evening. Posted by JohnConnor
OK thanks just was worried I had been left out lol
I know i'm very unlikely to make a good run in such a tourney, but I respect that there is a chance so it's an opportunity i'd hate to miss!
Hi there, just discovered your blog today and have very much enjoyed the contents. I will follow your progress. Have you ever found that after a break from the game, it takes a while to get back into it. I play only the small games and the occasional hi lo which I really like, but these past couple of weeks, I have been having a really hard time with the discipline, I know I am doing wrong, but do it anyway - really silly I know. Mind you I am an inexperienced player at both hold em and hi lo. I joined in a couple of your dyms today, an education in itself John. Thank you Nads
Hi there, just discovered your blog today and have very much enjoyed the contents. I will follow your progress. Have you ever found that after a break from the game, it takes a while to get back into it. I play only the small games and the occasional hi lo which I really like, but these past couple of weeks, I have been having a really hard time with the discipline, I know I am doing wrong, but do it anyway - really silly I know. Mind you I am an inexperienced player at both hold em and hi lo. I joined in a couple of your dyms today, an education in itself John. Thank you Nads Posted by granbo23
Hi Nads, thank you for the kind words, really glad you enjoyed the blog.
To be honest with you, I don't find it hard to get back into it having had a break, This could be because I spend such a large percentage of my poker time playing DYMs that the strategies are deeply embedded in my brain. Or it could be that I play virtually every day and never really have breaks of more than 24 hours (although I recently had a full week off - my longest break by far). Or both, I'm not sure.
I do find it hard, though, when I mix disciplines sometimes as you say you do. Below I've c+p'd an extract from an answer I gave earlier in the thread about the difficulties of mixing disciplines. It's just a couple of suggestions tbh, but I hope you find them useful:
"One thing I found useful on occasion was to just sit there before starting a session and ask yourself, "Am I in the right mindset (i.e. DYM/Cash/MTT whatever) to play these now". Making up (even writing down if necessary) specific scenarios may help certain players here. E.g. Ask yourself, "what will I do if I am dealt pocket 2s UTG first hand?" or "what will I do if someone shoves into me and I have 15BB's holding AK?" To continue the example for the first question one players answers may be as follows:
DYM: open fold Cash: raise MTT: limp in to try and see a cheap flop
So long as you are getting the answers right (according to your own strategies) this should help you separate the disciplines.
The other thing is, I would really recommend only playing one discipline at a time. It can get quite confusing trying to juggle 2 different disciplines (e.g. DYM and Cash) and I imagine 3 would be something of a nightmare. This is an easy adjustment to make and I would even recomend doing it as far as possible. What I mean is, don't just say, "I'm only playing DYMs in this session". Try to say instead, "I'm only playing DYMs today/this week/whatever". The less often you mix it up the easier it should be, in my opinion. Of course it may not be practical for players to do this and they may not want to, it is only a suggestion."
Only a very small session of 5.50s I am going to be 2-tabling them atm, with my computer crashing often I am not comfortable having much more then £10 at stake at any one time... So far 4 games, 4 wins Bankroll: £257.66 EDIT: Just typed you into "Find a Player" and saw the TSP final has popped up and i'm already registered as well, so no worries there. GL in that on Sunday Posted by Poker_Fail
Great progress there PF. Hope you can sort your computer out, I feel your pain there mate. Prior to starting again I had a couple of occassions where I loaded up £200+ of DYMs only to lose connection and be sat out the duration of them all. Pretty soul destroying tbh.
Hello again Just a note to thank you so much for your quick response, it is much appreciated and I will of course take note. All the very best for the future, I will keep reading with much interest. Thank you again Kind regards Nads
Just had one of those frustrating sessions where I could never quite pull away and get ahead. Ran slightly -EV too which didn't aid my frustration. Happy enough with the result though, given the circumstances. I did notice that the general standard tonight in the £1.15s was pretty decent, not many early knockouts or blow ups. I did witness one world class fold which is easily the best I've seen in such a low stakes DYM:
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
nancy1964
Small blind
25.00
25.00
1915.00
gilch60
Big blind
50.00
75.00
2116.25
Your hole cards
6
9
Chitauri
Fold
yidette9
Raise
150.00
225.00
1845.00
JohnConnor
Fold
shazbats
Call
150.00
375.00
1695.00
nancy1964
Call
125.00
500.00
1790.00
gilch60
Fold
Flop
4
J
2
nancy1964
Check
yidette9
Bet
250.00
750.00
1595.00
shazbats
All-in
1695.00
2445.00
0.00
nancy1964
Call
1695.00
4140.00
95.00
yidette9
Fold
nancy1964
Show
2
2
shazbats
Show
A
J
Turn
10
River
4
nancy1964
Win
Full House, 2s and 4s
4140.00
4235.00
Lorraine (yidette9) fold KK. She put the caller on a set. Amazing play.
Session stats:
Played 23 £1.15s W 12 L 11 BR - £36.22 Poker points - 252
Should get a few games in tomorrow but not too many as have a job interview in the morning and Wednesday is pub night with the football lads. Run well everyone!
Hello again Just a note to thank you so much for your quick response, it is much appreciated and I will of course take note. All the very best for the future, I will keep reading with much interest. Thank you again Kind regards Nads Posted by granbo23
Thanks Nads, you're too kind. Hope you run well at the tables.
In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Great progress there PF. Hope you can sort your computer out, I feel your pain there mate. Prior to starting again I had a couple of occassions where I loaded up £200+ of DYMs only to lose connection and be sat out the duration of them all. Pretty soul destroying tbh. Good luck to you too on Sunday sir, ty. Posted by JohnConnor
My plan is to buy a brand new computer if SKY ever make RESIZABLE TABLES like every other bloody site, then I could multitable seriously,... on a 32inch TV...
Out of interest why don't you just pay for a better/more reliable connection?
Played 2 more, soft, standard games.
Bankroll £266.66 + £30 C4P pending 150 points so far this month
In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : My plan is to buy a brand new computer if SKY ever make RESIZABLE TABLES like every other bloody site, then I could multitable seriously,... on a 32inch TV... Out of interest why don't you just pay for a better/more reliable connection? Played 2 more, soft, standard games. Bankroll £266.66 + £30 C4P pending 150 points so far this month Posted by Poker_Fail
you need to get some game time in, you are lagging behind
In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : My plan is to buy a brand new computer if SKY ever make RESIZABLE TABLES like every other bloody site, then I could multitable seriously,... on a 32inch TV... Out of interest why don't you just pay for a better/more reliable connection? Played 2 more, soft, standard games. Bankroll £266.66 + £30 C4P pending 150 points so far this month Posted by Poker_Fail
hi JC, thanks for mentioning my mega fold on here, this is the full version from my hand history. I do stand by my decision to make such a big lay down last night even though I had to continue the game 400 chips down, my read was right, I had put at least one of the shovers on a set and to find that I had made the correct fold just proved to me how far I have come in dym play over the last few months with your help and advice. Thank you
nancy1964 Small blind 25.00 25.00 1915.00 gilch60 Big blind 50.00 75.00 2116.25 Your hole cards K K Chitauri Fold yidette9 Raise 150.00 225.00 1845.00 JohnConnor Fold shazbats Call 150.00 375.00 1695.00 nancy1964 Call 125.00 500.00 1790.00 gilch60 Fold Flop 4 J 2 nancy1964 Check yidette9 Bet 250.00 750.00 1595.00 shazbats All-in 1695.00 2445.00 0.00 nancy1964 Call 1695.00 4140.00 95.00 yidette9 Fold nancy1964 Show 2 2 shazbats Show A J Turn 10 River 4 nancy1964 Win Full House, 2s and 4s 4140.00 hi JC, thanks for mentioning my mega fold on here, this is the full version from my hand history. I do stand by my decision to make such a big lay down last night even though I had to continue the game 400 chips down, my read was right, I had put at least one of the shovers on a set and to find that I had made the correct fold just proved to me how far I have come in dym play over the last few months with your help and advice. Thank you Posted by yidette9
That's a really strong fold, I wouldn't be able to make it!
WOW JC , Just got a chance to read through this thread , i must say bud you are a star and i have no doubt you will achieve your goal . Den. Posted by IRISHROVER
Hi Dennis, thanks very much mate. It was you who convinced me to go back to DYMs way back when I was a lost soul in the poker world (on your low stakes specialist thread). Thanks again.
In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : My plan is to buy a brand new computer if SKY ever make RESIZABLE TABLES like every other bloody site, then I could multitable seriously,... on a 32inch TV... Out of interest why don't you just pay for a better/more reliable connection? Played 2 more, soft, standard games. Bankroll £266.66 + £30 C4P pending 150 points so far this month Posted by Poker_Fail
Hi PF. The connection is slightly out of my hands as I live at home with my parents still. We are in contract with the current provider who are turning out to be OK, but would never be my first choice having had them. I've spent loads on equipment trying to resolve my probs mate (new comp, router, powerline adapters etc). Now I have a 'superhub' in a new location near my PC, and pay for 100mb broadband every month. I just think the ISP isn't the most reliable out there, it could be my house or anything, though, for all I know. When I move out (hopefully not too far in the future) I'll be looking for the most reliable option I can find. I've seen some interesting (not expensive) business packages from BT I think it was.
With regards to the tv option you're planning you may know more than me, I don't know. But as I understand it TV screens aren't the way to go. Resolution is far more important than size. There are some very decent options out there though. Mine is a Hanns G 28" and I can 12 table comfortably. It was £250 but maybe cheaper now.
Keep up the good work anyway, your BR is looking good :-)
In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Hi PF. The connection is slightly out of my hands as I live at home with my parents still. We are in contract with the current provider who are turning out to be OK, but would never be my first choice having had them. I've spent loads on equipment trying to resolve my probs mate (new comp, router, powerline adapters etc). Now I have a 'superhub' in a new location near my PC, and pay for100mbbroadband every month. I just think the ISP isn't the most reliable out there, it could be my house or anything, though, for all I know. When I move out (hopefully not too far in the future) I'll be looking for the most reliable option I can find. I've seen some interesting (not expensive) business packages from BT I think it was. With regards to the tv option you're planning you may know more than me, I don't know. But as I understand it TV screens aren't the way to go. Resolution is far more important than size. There are some very decent options out there though. Mine is a Hanns G 28" and I can 12 table comfortably. It was £250 but maybe cheaper now. Keep up the good work anyway, your BR is looking good :-) Posted by JohnConnor
Wow usually when I take a speed test it says 0.65 :S
Gotta be Talk Talk Ohh no, I was just hoping that would work lol
I'll have to look that up, I still live with my parents too and that's also part of the reason I havn't already bought a new computer.
Thanks, my current plan is to play somewhere between 50 and 100 at the £5.50 level and move up to the £11s if I like my results
Shame about your connection troubles, hope they get resolved eventually : )
EDIT: For some reason the colours are not working properly
9 wins 1 loss so far in the £5.50 run, the 1 loss was me coming back from my computer crashing, having lost 400ish chips and flopping 2 pair to the enemy's flopped straight, had I not lost a reasonable chunk of my stack i might not have been as committed to the hand... however i probably would have anyway
Also played a 5.50 turbo and won so current BR: £279.16 and expecting some bad luck to ruin that soon lol
Had a fiddle with Sharkscope and found out I have very good profits in the games I have played against good regs which was nice to seel, although some of those could have been positive variance as only small samples.
Very nice PF, I wish I could win 9/10 lol. Don't worry about the bad luck mate, just keep riding the good. I've ran like an absolute god for a good couple of months in the past, ask 1267 ;-)
Anyway my own day has been fairly uneventful, started really well and even had the £45 in my sights but the session didn't end as well as it started unfortunately.
Played 23 £1.15s W 13 L 10 BR - £35.77 Poker points - 298
Off to the pub tonight. Will look forward to a good grind tomorrow, Thursday is a great day what with the live show and it been the start of the 'poker weekend'.
Very nice PF, I wish I could win 9/10 lol. Don't worry about the bad luck mate, just keep riding the good. I've ran like an absolute god for a good couple of months in the past, ask 1267 ;-) Anyway my own day has been fairly uneventful, started really well and even had the £45 in my sights but the session didn't end as well as it started unfortunately. Played 23 £1.15s W 13 L 10 BR - £35.77 Poker points - 298 Off to the pub tonight. Will look forward to a good grind tomorrow, Thursday is a great day what with the live show and it been the start of the 'poker weekend'. Posted by JohnConnor
I'm just getting lucky with soft games atm, havn't had to shove often and have only been called twice, I would be very happy if I could win more than 65 out of the 100 games i'm planning to play.
At least when you do reach £45 you'll reach another satisfying rake decrease. : )
Cracking blog JC - a real service to the Skypoker community and hopefully it'll improve my play.
Just played the tightest £2.20 DYM ever. STill all 6 in with similar stacks at L8! Must have all read the blog, lol. Tried to liven it up as it's bedtime and went out in 4th. DOH!
Do you have any tips on multi-tabling? - I always end up getting flustered and make basic mistakes/misclicks and the constant bet-alerts drive me insane!
Good luck with the challenge - looking forward to the next update.
Great blog / thread, enjoying the updates. I've returned to DYM's after a go at cash then tilt withdrawing most of my roll. Started at the beginning of the month with £70 at the £2.25's and am now at £95.50 (416pp) and now playing the £3.30's Best of luck with your challenge and pls keep updating your thread. Mark Posted by lMARKl
Hi Mark, thanks very much, glad you're enjoying the updates. Good luck with your own targets mate, some great progress there, I will follow with interest.
Cracking blog JC - a real service to the Skypoker community and hopefully it'll improve my play. Just played the tightest £2.20 DYM ever. STill all 6 in with similar stacks at L8! Must have all read the blog, lol. Tried to liven it up as it's bedtime and went out in 4th. DOH! Do you have any tips on multi-tabling? - I always end up getting flustered and make basic mistakes/misclicks and the constant bet-alerts drive me insane! Good luck with the challenge - looking forward to the next update. Posted by Prop60
Hi Prop, thanks mate.
I hate those games where there's six left at that stage, lol, can be quite hard to find shoving spots. Unlucky on bubbling that one.
Re the multi-tabling, if you're making mistakes like misclicks it could just be that you're trying too many tables at the moment or that you just need a little while longer to get used to it. Are you using miniview? I find miniview a lot easier to use when multi-tabling. It takes a little while to get used to at first but it is definately worth switching if you haven't already, imo. Personally, I always line my games up the same way as well. So I load them up from the top left corner of my screen down towards the bottom right. When one ends I drag them all along to fill the vacant spot, so I always have the game that is nearest the end (and therefore most important) at the top left of my screen. If I was in a spot where I was struggling I would know that I could just ignore the games in the bottom right and concentrate on those in the top left.
Another thing you can do, which I have never done personally, but definately has advantages for some people, is to stagger your games. Thats to say, load one or two, wait 15-20 mins, then load one or two more. This means (in theory) that you only have one or two games at the end stage (which require concentration) while the others are right in the early stages and you can just fold away.
Re the sounds, to be honest I would switch those off. I don't use them but on the very rare occassion I've tried them for like 2 minutes, they have driven me insane too. That was one tabling. Multi-tabling with sounds on must be a nightmare, imo.
Just had one of those horrible, horrible sessions. One of those where it seemed that every time a short stack got it in 30/70 or 40/60 they doubled up. Yet every time I got it in 70/30 or 60/40 I busted. That's how it goes, though, sometimes. Were it not for these sessions there would be no online poker. It's pretty easy to tilt during sessions like these but I think I did ok on the tables just now (a swear box would have paid for itself a few times over though, however). Anyway, the upshot (I've never really understood this word - it seems to me to imply positive connotations?!) is that I've gone from having my sights on the £2.25 level to being worrying close to the £0.60 level again. I really don't want to return there as jumping up to £1.15 was a big step forward in the challenge. I guess tonight will have a big influence on this though. It's definitely Thursday with some of the loose all-in calls I've been seeing today. I think tonight will be one of those nights where I either win a lot of money (relatively speaking) or, if my all-in showdowns continue going the way they have been this afternoon, I have to move down a level. Please please, poker gods let it be the former.
Played 19 £1.15s W 6 L 13 (2 of the ones I won were largely aided by a player losing connection on the bubble!) BR - £25.92 :-(
Hi johnconnor great blog.I've recently been trying my hand at £1 and £2 dyms and have played you a few times.I just hope your advice on playing dyms registers in my small brain sooner rather than later.Best of luck in your dyms.
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I know i'm very unlikely to make a good run in such a tourney, but I respect that there is a chance so it's an opportunity i'd hate to miss!
GL again in speeding through the 1.15 level
Have you ever found that after a break from the game, it takes a while to get back into it. I play only the small games and the occasional hi lo which I really like, but these past couple of weeks, I have been having a really hard time with the discipline, I know I am doing wrong, but do it anyway - really silly I know. Mind you I am an inexperienced player at both hold em and hi lo.
I joined in a couple of your dyms today, an education in itself John.
Thank you
Nads
I am going to be 2-tabling them atm, with my computer crashing often I am not comfortable having much more then £10 at stake at any one time...
So far 4 games, 4 wins
Bankroll: £257.66
EDIT: Just typed you into "Find a Player" and saw the TSP final has popped up and i'm already registered as well, so no worries there.
GL in that on Sunday
To be honest with you, I don't find it hard to get back into it having had a break, This could be because I spend such a large percentage of my poker time playing DYMs that the strategies are deeply embedded in my brain. Or it could be that I play virtually every day and never really have breaks of more than 24 hours (although I recently had a full week off - my longest break by far). Or both, I'm not sure.
I do find it hard, though, when I mix disciplines sometimes as you say you do. Below I've c+p'd an extract from an answer I gave earlier in the thread about the difficulties of mixing disciplines. It's just a couple of suggestions tbh, but I hope you find them useful:
"One thing I found useful on occasion was to just sit there before starting a session and ask yourself, "Am I in the right mindset (i.e. DYM/Cash/MTT whatever) to play these now". Making up (even writing down if necessary) specific scenarios may help certain players here. E.g. Ask yourself, "what will I do if I am dealt pocket 2s UTG first hand?" or "what will I do if someone shoves into me and I have 15BB's holding AK?" To continue the example for the first question one players answers may be as follows:
DYM: open fold
Cash: raise
MTT: limp in to try and see a cheap flop
So long as you are getting the answers right (according to your own strategies) this should help you separate the disciplines.
The other thing is, I would really recommend only playing one discipline at a time. It can get quite confusing trying to juggle 2 different disciplines (e.g. DYM and Cash) and I imagine 3 would be something of a nightmare. This is an easy adjustment to make and I would even recomend doing it as far as possible. What I mean is, don't just say, "I'm only playing DYMs in this session". Try to say instead, "I'm only playing DYMs today/this week/whatever". The less often you mix it up the easier it should be, in my opinion. Of course it may not be practical for players to do this and they may not want to, it is only a suggestion."
Good luck to you too on Sunday sir, ty.
Played 26 £1.15s W 18 L 8
BR - £37.82
Poker points - 204
Will most probably play again tonight, hopefully inching closer to the £45 mark required to play £2.25s.
Hello again
Just a note to thank you so much for your quick response, it is much appreciated and I will of course take note.
All the very best for the future, I will keep reading with much interest.
Thank you again
Kind regards
Nads
Session stats:
Played 23 £1.15s W 12 L 11
BR - £36.22
Poker points - 252
Should get a few games in tomorrow but not too many as have a job interview in the morning and Wednesday is pub night with the football lads. Run well everyone!
lol
Out of interest why don't you just pay for a better/more reliable connection?
Played 2 more, soft, standard games.
Bankroll £266.66 + £30 C4P pending 150 points so far this month
I do stand by my decision to make such a big lay down last night even though I had to continue the game 400 chips down, my read was right, I had put at least one of the shovers on a set and to find that I had made the correct fold just proved to me how far I have come in dym play over the last few months with your help and advice. Thank you
WOW JC ,
Just got a chance to read through this thread ,
i must say bud you are a star and i have no doubt you
will achieve your goal .
Den.
With regards to the tv option you're planning you may know more than me, I don't know. But as I understand it TV screens aren't the way to go. Resolution is far more important than size. There are some very decent options out there though. Mine is a Hanns G 28" and I can 12 table comfortably. It was £250 but maybe cheaper now.
Keep up the good work anyway, your BR is looking good :-)
Gotta be Talk Talk
Ohh no, I was just hoping that would work lol
I'll have to look that up, I still live with my parents too and that's also part of the reason I havn't already bought a new computer.
Thanks, my current plan is to play somewhere between 50 and 100 at the £5.50 level and move up to the £11s if I like my results
Shame about your connection troubles, hope they get resolved eventually : )
EDIT: For some reason the colours are not working properly
Also played a 5.50 turbo and won so current BR: £279.16 and expecting some bad luck to ruin that soon lol
Had a fiddle with Sharkscope and found out I have very good profits in the games I have played against good regs which was nice to seel, although some of those could have been positive variance as only small samples.
Anyway my own day has been fairly uneventful, started really well and even had the £45 in my sights but the session didn't end as well as it started unfortunately.
Played 23 £1.15s W 13 L 10
BR - £35.77
Poker points - 298
Off to the pub tonight. Will look forward to a good grind tomorrow, Thursday is a great day what with the live show and it been the start of the 'poker weekend'.
At least when you do reach £45 you'll reach another satisfying rake decrease. : )
Just played the tightest £2.20 DYM ever. STill all 6 in with similar stacks at L8! Must have all read the blog, lol. Tried to liven it up as it's bedtime and went out in 4th. DOH!
Do you have any tips on multi-tabling? - I always end up getting flustered and make basic mistakes/misclicks and the constant bet-alerts drive me insane!
Good luck with the challenge - looking forward to the next update.
I hate those games where there's six left at that stage, lol, can be quite hard to find shoving spots. Unlucky on bubbling that one.
Re the multi-tabling, if you're making mistakes like misclicks it could just be that you're trying too many tables at the moment or that you just need a little while longer to get used to it. Are you using miniview? I find miniview a lot easier to use when multi-tabling. It takes a little while to get used to at first but it is definately worth switching if you haven't already, imo. Personally, I always line my games up the same way as well. So I load them up from the top left corner of my screen down towards the bottom right. When one ends I drag them all along to fill the vacant spot, so I always have the game that is nearest the end (and therefore most important) at the top left of my screen. If I was in a spot where I was struggling I would know that I could just ignore the games in the bottom right and concentrate on those in the top left.
Another thing you can do, which I have never done personally, but definately has advantages for some people, is to stagger your games. Thats to say, load one or two, wait 15-20 mins, then load one or two more. This means (in theory) that you only have one or two games at the end stage (which require concentration) while the others are right in the early stages and you can just fold away.
Re the sounds, to be honest I would switch those off. I don't use them but on the very rare occassion I've tried them for like 2 minutes, they have driven me insane too. That was one tabling. Multi-tabling with sounds on must be a nightmare, imo.
Good luck at the tables mate.
Played 19 £1.15s W 6 L 13 (2 of the ones I won were largely aided by a player losing connection on the bubble!)
BR - £25.92 :-(