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Surely in this case the guy with the ace of clubs wins as he has the ace kicker lol
col
It's our job to help educate & inform, & when that happens, we've failed. Hence I've made several Links to this thread, & Talon's blog, today.
I think - I hope - I highlighted that problem very early in the Thread.
but if u have AAA BLank u just fold as there is only 1 case ace in the pack to hit
akak is the best hand in omaha preflop
ive played alot of omaha on pokerstars ive won 2 tournaments a 4 doller and a 16 doller 1
heads up matches are a great way to play omaha and you will pick up the game quicker
the game can change on every street so getting you money in strong is all you can do
As an example, A-A-6-2 (no suits) v Q-J-T-9 (Double-Suited) would be a very slight favourite, effectively a flip. (Slightly worse than 51%-49%).
Against more than one Oppo, I'm insta-mucking, as it plays dreadfully bad multi-way.
In some respects i agree with you, but you are only ahead preflop, and if you are playing Pot Limit Omaha, then it can be difficult to get people to fold preflop, unless you are last to act. Plus imo, most people raising preflop do give their hand away, ie big pairs.
It is better to have some secondary way of winning the hand because if, on the flop it comes 8,9,10 same suit, your pair of aces are well behind any 6,7 j,q or any to cards of the same suit even the poxy 2,3. As this is mainly a drawing game, it can easliy become the correct thing to fold a pair of aces post flop.
Just my observation, but a good discussion point.
col
Imo, one of the best skills is not to get attached to a hand, but try and assess the board.
i like this post m8
col
And if the best price I can get pre-flop with A-A-rag-rag is 51%-49%, well I can get that by Betting High/Low, Odd/Even or Red/Black on a Roulette Table! It's a flip, & I value my Tourney Life a lot more than that.
Hands that can improve are key. We need "extensions" every time. One pair will win around 10% of the time. Or lose 90% of the time.
Imagine the 6 two-card holdings you have in 4 Card Omaha. A-A-6-2 is ONE hand. You need 3, ideally, or even better, no danglers at all, to really go to war. Q-J-T-9 DS is at least 4 hands - that'll be my selection!
But we all play different - thank goodness!
For beginners - to whom this thread is aimed - I really cannot encourage them to go to war with 1 pair.
q-j-T-9 what does DS stand for if it stands for dimonds = instant fold lol
even in pot limit the pot preflop can get big so its best to have a hand rather then hoping to hit the flop
anywayz not critasizing just a point of view and its done me well in tournaments
With respect, one pair pre-flop should be mucked, unless it "works with" the rest of the hand - say J-T-T-9 DS.
ok i think i wont post in this box as it is for begginers
and i have played omaha for about a year now and have won some toughfields online
keep up the advice for begginers anywayz been good 2 chat
I appreciate your understanding - we really need this thread for open-source learning, so that newbies to Omaha don't make the usual basic errors that players migrating from Hold 'Em always do - for instance, thinking one pair is any good.
We have a lot of excellent Omaha players here, & they are working with the newbies to improve their grasp of Omaha basics. It's a terrific Community-Builder, the way it's working.
I know you are deeply experienced, but you could do a lot worse than read the excellent Omaha Blog by Talon. I'll find a Link to it if you are interested in improving your Omaha play, or understanding the basic terminology.
Timebomb - please remove that Link immediately, it's non-compliant.
(Otherwise the Mods will be on your case big time).
Thanks.
Best not to C & P stuff from other sites on here, either, please. All our Forum Content is original.
But thank you for the offer.
There is - as you mentioned earlier - oodles of good, original, Omaha advice on here, & it's specifically geared to our players & Community.
High Only Hi-Lo will be introduced quite soon, but it makes no sense to introduce it right now, until most of our players get used to Omaha. Split Pot games - such as Hi-Lo - take some getting used to, & it would be too much all in one go imo.
Posted by Tikay10
Hi,
Are you all used to Omaha Hi yet? If so Is there any news on when Hi-Lo will arrive? thanks..
DS/Double SuitedAs Tikay says, DS stands for 'double suited'. This is a lovely, LOVELY, thing in Omaha. It means you hold two possible flush draws. Triple suited however is not as good. Why? Because you can only use two and having a third one in your hand is a waste - we'd rather have that extra out in the deck, not in our hand.
Wrap Draws:A wrap draw is something you might hear about from time to time, and again it's lovely when you get one. There are a couple of types of wrap draws. . When you are playing poker, imagine your Omaha hand contains a 6,7 and 8. The flop comes 59x. You can make a straight with any of the three cards you hold, a 6,7 or 8. That gives you 9 outs, one more than an open-ended straight draw.
The best type of wrap draw is when the straight cards on board have one gap or are connected. For example, imagine the board shows 9Jx. If you have 8TQ in your hand, a 7,8,T,Q or K will make your draw. Here you have 17 outs! There are four 7s and four Ks, as well as three 8s, Ts and Qs that make your straight.
ccxx?Sometimes you might see players describing their starting hand as AKJTcc or T876hh. They are telling you they had a single suited hand - clubs in the first example, hearts in the second. It's basically a way of showing which suit they had in their hand and how many of them there were. That example we mentioned about having the third suited card in their hand? You've guessed it - that would be AKJTccc. Shame, we'd much rather that was in the pack too.